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David (Cambridge, Britology Watch): There has been much discussion recently – including on Britology Watch – about whether English nationalism can be reconciled with progressive politics; and whether progressives need to espouse the nationalist cause, associate it with left-of-centre values, and thereby prevent it from falling into the hands of the far right.

I would go further. I would say not only that English nationalism could and should be taken up as a progressive cause but that it should also be at the forefront of the great cause célèbre of the moment: the fight to preserve our civil liberties, currently being championed by the former Conservative shadow home secretary David Davis through the by-election he has called to force a public debate on the issues.

I would recommend the excellent article by OurKingdom's Anthony Barnett on David Davis’s stand and its significance. I left a long’ish comment on it, which I reproduce here, as it summarises my thinking and leads to the point I want to make now:

    “This is why we should have the confidence to celebrate the fact that a leading politician is taking issues of principle and government to the people, irrespective of his party politics.

    “Especially in Britain (or should I say England, as arguably Alex Salmond has already done this in Scotland).”

    Naturally, I see this caveat - “or should I say England” - as key. You won’t see Scottish or Welsh nationalists mounting your barricades, as they’re not interested in building open, representative and constitutional British democracy.

    The way I’m interested in framing the issue is as follows: is the British state and parliament losing its democratic legitimacy as a consequence of measures such as 42 days and identity management; or is its recourse to such measures a consequence of the fact that it is losing its legitimacy? One of the truths that the database society manifests is that government no longer trusts the people; and it no longer trusts the people because it has lost the trust of the people.

    But it’s not just about government but about the state: the British state, in particular. You’re right to link the ‘transformational government’ programme to the break down of the unitary state that the Labour government itself initiated through devolution. The whole British establishment knows that it is engaged in a battle for its very survival and that its legitimacy to represent and speak for the different nations of Britain has been fundamentally and fatally undermined.

    And this is why, in more than a merely metaphorical or rhetorical sense, every citizen becomes a potential terrorist: someone whom the government suspects of wishing the British state as presently constituted to fall apart - which growing ranks of its citizenry do in fact wish. 42 days and systematic identity management across all government departments are of a piece, in that they are about - as you put it, quoting from ‘Who do they think we are?’ - discovering the “deep truth about the citizen (or business) based on their behaviour, experiences, beliefs, needs or desires”.

    In other words, it’s about finding out who is an enemy of the state: the enemy within. For most of us, ID cards and CCTV surveillance are ’sufficient’ for the state apparatus to reassure itself that we are not a serious threat. For the rest of us, there’s 42 days. But the danger is in the blurring, in the eyes and state machinery of paranoid control, between legitimate, democratic
    antagonism towards the state, and illegitimate, physically violent hostility: terrorism.

    I’m an enemy of the British state, in that I’d like to see it replaced by a federal state or abolished altogether (i.e. through Scottish and English independence). And if we had a federal state, this should have much less central power, with most of the national-level decisions taken by an English parliament and a much stronger local-government sector. Does this make me ’suspect’ in the eyes of the database state? Probably, yes: and therein lies its true danger.

    But we need to be clear that the fight is not just with ‘the state’ in some universal sense; but with the British state. And this is because it’s primarily an English struggle, as the Scots and Welsh are pursuing their own paths towards constitutional democracy. And what will emerge, if the libertarians are successful in the present fight, will almost certainly not be a new written constitution, bill of rights and representative democracy for Britain but for England. Indeed, it’s fundamentally because the people of England have lost their faith in the legitimacy of the British state to govern them that the government is so concerned to manage and orchestrate their British identity in the first place.

    And it is to popular English national sentiment, and to the sense of our traditional English liberties, that the libertarian cause will have to appeal if it is to touch the hearts and minds of the Sun-reading class.

What I want to say here follows on from these points. The libertarian and nationalist cause in this country have fundamentally the same goals and should see themselves as natural allies. ‘This country’ being England, let it be understood. Put simply, we’re both pushing for an end to the British state as currently constituted, and want a proper representative democracy – responsive to the needs, concerns and sentiments of the people – backed up by a new constitutional settlement and preferably a bill of rights.

But the reality that the libertarians need to get their head round is that this new constitutional settlement must radically address and resolve the asymmetry with which the different nations of the UK are presently governed. There is no way back to the old unitary UK, and the new constitution cannot be one that applies in a monolithic way to the whole of ‘Britain’. The unitary UK no longer exists, and to pretend that it does – as the government has attempted to do since devolution – is either wilful deceit (an attempt to suppress English aspirations for democratic self-governance) or blind self-deception. Similarly, there is no stock of idealism, aspiration, energy and commitment that could unite the English, Scots and Welsh behind a common cause for a new British constitution and a system of governance that pretended to accommodate and perpetuate the present muddled and iniquitous devolution settlement.

The only way forward for the libertarian movement is to accept that there can be no unitary-British process of constitutional reform: the Scots and the Welsh are seeking and articulating their own way forward, and the aspirations of those countries for national self-determination cannot simply be subsumed and channelled into a single British constitutional process. Which means that, for the rest of us, the process is of necessity an English process.

The difference, for the time being at least, between the libertarian and the nationalist is merely that the latter regards this necessity as being also a virtue. But it can become so for the libertarian, too, especially if the process results in the outcomes that libertarians have sought for so long: electoral reform; an executive accountable to parliament; a parliament accountable to the people; a truly independent judiciary respecting our age-old, English civil liberties, such as habeas corpus and privacy; etc.

Indeed, I would say that accepting that this process has got to be an English one in the first instance, and espousing this as a positive thing in its own right, actually presents the only realistic possibility of achieving the libertarian objectives in the present circumstances. This is firstly because an English solution – a new English constitutional settlement – is the only realistic goal, for the reasons I’ve set out: no more unitary British fixes to the broken Union.

Secondly, it’s the only way that the libertarian cause, such as it has been taken up by David Davis, can become a truly popular cause. This is – as I set out in my comment on Anthony Barnett’s article – because the more profound reason why Westminster politicians and the British government are no longer trusted is because they are out of touch with the English people and are not properly accountable to them: a government that does dual purpose as a UK and as an English administration, elected through a ludicrously disproportionate voting system, and by the votes of Scottish and Welsh people, headed up by a Scottish PM and several senior Scottish ministers who make laws for England but can’t be voted out by English people; whereas the people of Scotland and Wales can vote for two governments – one specifically for their countries, with policy agendas directly addressing the needs and concerns of their countries; and one for reserved UK matters (and for England-only matters to boot).

And then, on top of all this, an emasculated parliament that dutifully performs the will of the executive through a combination of misplaced party loyalty and corrupt deal making, and which is therefore unable to defend the freedoms or represent the will of the people; but which still has the nerve to claim that its ’sovereignty’ is sacrosanct – as if this had anything to do with the sovereign will of the people, rather than being merely a reference to the sovereign power of the monarch as enacted by an executive whose only claim to a democratic mandate is an election held at its own whim where it is awarded sweeping majorities purely and simply because of the crazy electoral system – and certainly not because of the actual votes of the English people.

This has got to stop. And we need a new constitutional settlement for England. Forget about the British dimension for the moment; that’s out of our hands – ‘our hands’ meaning, of course, the hands of the English. As English people, we have to seek a democratic solution for England, and
leave the Scots and Welsh to work out their own destiny. What we can do, however – and this is perhaps the only chance for any British state to survive – is frame our new constitution in such a way that the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish can choose to join us or not. By this, I’m referring to the fact that there are two dimensions to the reform process:

  1. An English bill of rights, which would enshrine the fundamental,
    universal rinciples and liberties I’ve alluded to, e.g. parliamentary
    accountability, representative democracy, judicial independence,
    freedom until charged of an imprisonable offence, innocence until
    proven guilty, etc. There’s nothing wrong in such a bill of rights
    being referred to as English rather than British; if such a statement
    is a product of the English people themselves freely articulating and
    agreeing to a set of fundamental principles, then it should justly and
    proudly be called English. There’s nothing to then prevent the Scots
    and Welsh adopting those principles wholesale as laying the foundation
    for their own governance, or adapting them to their different
    circumstances and, in the case of Scotland, juridical principles;
  2. The specific forms of governance that are devised in accordance
    with such principles, and which would form the basis of a new English
    constitution. In this aspect of the process, we – the English people –
    could devise a federal, Britain-wide system that could accommodate the Scots, the Welsh and the Northern Irish if they wished to be part of it. If we got the design right, they might decide not to go off on
    their own. But, in order for that to happen, there would have to be a
    high degree of autonomy for each of the nations of the UK, so as to
    give expression to the aspirations for national self-determination in
    each of them, including, of course, in England. The nations of the
    present UK would become the primary sources of sovereign authority in
    the land – sovereign because answerable to their people – and the
    national parliaments would have to have equal powers, including those
    of initiating primary legislation and raising all the taxes required to
    fund the programmes for which they were responsible.

A multi-national, federal constitutional settlement such as this could potentially balance out the four nations’ aspirations for autonomy with the wish to remain in a union of friendship and co-operation in matters of mutual interest, which would be the domain of a federal British government. A constitutional settlement which, on the other hand, tried to impose a unitary British bill of rights and written constitution would be bound to provoke resistance and resentment on the part of Scots and English alike; whereas, letting the Scots and the Welsh appropriate ever greater powers to their devolved bodies while denying the parity of a similar national parliament to the English might just drive the placid English into revolt.

But the important point is that the formulation and realisation of this new federal system of governance should be driven primarily by the English, and not imposed on them from above by the British government, as in the present government’s stymied Governance of Britain programme. We need to devise a federal system that protects the rights of the smaller nations of Britain, so their will cannot be overridden. It would have to be a system they wanted to join; and that’s really how the choice should be formulated: a comprehensive settlement, addressing English demands for freedom and democracy, that the other UK nations should be offered the choice of joining if they wish. As opposed to a process of drift whereby the other nations elect to abandon the rotten British ship, and we English will not have worked out a new system of governance to protect our rights, and give proud and positive expression to England and Englishness, which will otherwise be merely the default option in any case.

Such a declaration of intent might give some decent impetus to the whole process of redrawing the national-constitutional map of these islands, and bring the agonising death of the unitary UK to a swift and merciful end. So, we – the English people – would say to our neighbours: ‘OK, you’ve been working your way towards self-governance; now we in England are going to recast our forms of governance, and reformulate our rights, and you can join us – with your national rights and democratic will protected – if you wish, or not’.

But it’s down to us, the English people, to seize the initiative and set the agenda. After all, if we don’t stand up for our freedoms, the British parliament has shown itself unwilling and unable to protect them.

 

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The Cornish Democrat said:

Thu, 2008-07-10 14:13
Well you can always try David (that's my take anyway) but when devolution was a hot topic following Blairs promises Cornish nationalists tried to convince 'libertarians' that we had a project supported by the public to bring power to Cornwall.

What happened? The 'libertarians' where so engrossed in the glory and 'rightness' of their way to do things a popular petition calling for devolution was ignored. What does that tell you about 'libertarians' as you call them and their respect for popular opinion outside of London.

padav said:

Thu, 2008-07-10 14:42

David,

There are so many assumptions within your piece that must be challenged; it is difficult to know where to begin

First of all I will declare my stance on the general issues you raise.

I am not a natural Conservative voter or supporter of their espousal of unfettered free market principles (and never will be).

However I would like to consider myself a libertarian in so much as I strongly support the general principles of freedom; Habeus Corpus, Trial by Peers (jury), presumption of innocence, etc.

Therefore like you I applaud the principled stance taken by David Davis and, if I lived in his constituency, would probably break the habit of a lifetime and vote for him to indicate my endorsement on this single issue, safe in the knowledge that I could vote another way at the next general election.

Like you I stand against the erosion of civil liberties and the inexorable creep towards a database state and all it symbolises.

However unlike you I am not an enemy of the British State per se and I strongly reject the casual manner in which you imply a direct causal link between the function of a British State and a negative environment for our rights as citizens.

I am an enemy of acentralised British State. There is a subtle but crucial difference to our viewpoints.

The assymetric devolution policy pursued by the current Labour administration means that the status quo is no longer sustainable and I share your advocacy of a federal solution to the UK's constitutional conundrum. However, any common sentiment between us evaporates at the mention of an English Parliament as an integral element of a future constitutional settlement.

Why are you so certain that the struggle for libertarian values is exclusively English. What evidence do you have to support this assertion and the implication it carries with regard to the general dispostion of all UK inhabitants living outside England?

Please don't quote the behaviour and public utterances of certain prominent political figures active within the devolved institutions because the same chasm of reality you perceive between UK elites and the English exists universally across the UK.

The crucial difference outside England is the reduced gap between ordinary person and elected representive due in no small part to the simple fact that the accountable bodies and the geo-political entities they serve are smaller and more focused. Dissent on specifically Scottish or N.Irish or Welsh issues now has a mouthpiece through which it can gain voice. That vital democratic avenue is shut off for all English residents (outside London at least).

Where I really take issue with your article is its almost robotic assumption of English homogeneity. Do all residents of England share the same aspirations for the future? Do all English regions face the same challenges, requiring uniform strategies and solutions? Effective political power requires one vital ingredient - money (and lots of it). Do the proposals for an English Parliament include and unequivocal commitment to grant all parts of England their own revenue gathering powers, commensurate with any competencies they might assume? If they do then the concept of an all-England instution becomes ultimately redundant anyway - why bother with an expensive talking shop peforming no meaningful task (because it's being done at a lower level already)?

Unlike you I do see a role for the United Kingdom in maintaining, within a looser framework, the intimate cultural bonds existing between all British inhabitants and whilst I share your desire to achieve "an end to the Britsh State as currently constituted" I would put in its place a Britain in which dispersal of power becomes the cultural norm rather than the exception.

How, precisely, will an English Parliament help in delivering this laudable goal because from where I am sitting in the English peripheries the notion of an English Parliament fills me with horror.

An English Parliament, particularly one populated by the very same political
parties dominating the existing UK equivalent, will instinctively reserve
powers (to raise and manage public revenues) to itself and perpetuate the same convergence of political influence we currently bear witness to in the Westminster model.

Therefore the constitutional settlement you seek;

A written statement limiting the powers of the state and defining the nature and scope of the relationship between state and citizen and enshrining throught a Bill of Rights a variety of civil liberties

Effective freedom of information legislation fostering a culture of transparent governance

A robust and independent judiciary

Real electoral reform (preferably multi-member STV)

An executive function held truly accountable by the legislature

A equitable distribution of power between and across all parts of the UK

are all perfectly compatible with a British solution; indeed, I would go further in arguing that this vital last element of any potential constitutional equation cannot be delivered through an exclusively English solution.

Peter Davidson, Alderley Edge, NW.England

Toque said:

Thu, 2008-07-10 15:12

Great post.  What's annoyed me for so long about the constitutional reform organisations (Charter88, for example) is that they've always couched their arguments in terms of what's best for Britain, and sought British solutions to (mainly) English problems.

It's always been my opinion that English nationalism is a great vehicle for overhauling the constitution.  There cannot be English sovereign interest without an overhaul of the constitution because the UK just won't work as is.  Unfortunately no one is interested and they'll just continue trying to mend something that in its present form is irredeemably broke.

As a cynic I think it's probably easiest to let the Establishment break up Britain through their sheer pig-headed "Westminster is sovereign" unionism, than to try and convince them otherwise while they still think they have the reigns in their hands. 

Anax said:

Thu, 2008-07-10 18:46

These articles would be more convincing if they didn't always start the same way; progressives should adopt nationalism to prevent it falling to the far right.

Not logged in said:

Thu, 2008-07-10 20:40

Perhaps you're right, Toque, that we will just get a new English constitutional settlement as the default option: when Scotland, maybe then followed by Wales, abandon ship - driven to distraction by an English Conservative government attacking their Barnett privileges, reducing the influence of their MPs on 'England-only' legislation, and seeking to rule them in the name of Britain, just as the Labour government - backed by its Scottish and Welsh MPs - has sought to rule England in the name of Britain.

The trouble is, the idea of Britain is so deeply rooted in the formal, publicly acceptable political discourse (of England). The discourse of Britishness is the language through which propositions and policies that are primarily for England, and formulated by English people, can make out a claim for universal validity - in both the philosophical / ideological sense, and the sense of cultural-ethnic-national inclusiveness. Just try saying all of the things that are normally described as 'British' even where 'English' and 'England' are actually meant, and see the reaction, both on your listeners and on the internal processes of self-censorship that step in when you've violated the codes of political correctness and social nicety.

But it's this sort of prise de conscience - to coin a non-English phrase - that is needed: when you're making a political statement that relates to the country or the nation as a whole, if you actually are referring to England, then say England. The effect could be quite revolutionary, and this certainly is diametrically opposite to the approach taken by the UK government when talking about its English governance. But it involves two things: 1) actually realising that what's involved affects only or primarily England (as in the civil-rights cause); and 2) having the courage to say so.

David, aka Britology Watch

Anthony Barnett said:

Thu, 2008-07-10 21:50

I agree this definitely advances the argument.

Re Charter88, I'll not defend it it now, that's for Unlock Democracy, I would say that it was created ten years before the Scottish Parliament and the Welsh Assembly (which it supported) so of course it had to be articulated in British terms.

Anax: You sa,
"These articles would be more convincing if they didn't always start the same way; progressives should adopt nationalism to prevent it falling to the far right."

But David aka... says right at the start that he wants to go further than this. But I agree strongly that nationalism should not be adopted or advocated in an instrumental fashion.

Not logged in said:

Fri, 2008-07-11 00:02

NO THANK YOU

This country needs libertarianism like it needs more rain.

Civil liberties were something that Thatcher and the Tory Right once extolled as a means for people to do pretty much what they want- and get away with it. Free enterprise is only freedom for the financially powerful where the libermaniacs and their mad proposal of endless tax cuts mean the rest of us become far less empowered-and eventually crushed.

I'm alright with nationalism but try and imagine a "capitalist autonomy" where someone else has the whip hand. That's libertarian

Anax said:

Fri, 2008-07-11 09:31

@Anthony Barnett

"But David aka... says right at the start that he wants to go further
than this. But I agree strongly that nationalism should not be adopted
or advocated in an instrumental fashion."

It's not so much going further as building liberty on unsuitable foundations. Progressive nationalists seem to believe that liberty and local democracy will generate a reinvigorated sense of nationhood. It could just as easily lead to a decline in nationhood, with national days being ignored and national traditions being laid to rest.What will the nationalists do then?

Toque said:

Fri, 2008-07-11 10:03

I think the idea of England is much more firmly rooted.

The idea of Britain is more about Crown, Westminster and Empire, adopted from England, to be sure, but that doesn't mean that England should take them back.

Not logged in said:

Mon, 2008-07-14 09:31

The Libertarian Party is leaning towards a Federal Great Britain, but not at the expense of more Government tiers and layers.

The only legitimate role of small government is that of defence, and therefore we are attracted to the SNP idea of a council of the Isles.

As to an English Parliament, personally I feel that the English should have a Parliament as to bring Government closer to the Governed, more importantly for the LPUK, is small government with more real power delegated back to the towns and cities, and that in the event of an English Parliament there should be no more than one hundred MP's and their first task to frame a written Constitution to protect our Liberties, not to act like social workers on speed, looking to solve every problem with legistlation.

padav said:

Mon, 2008-07-14 12:15

Quote:
Not logged in, Mon, 2008-07-14 09:31

"The Libertarian Party is leaning towards a Federal Great Britain, but not at the expense of more Government tiers and layers.

The only legitimate role of small government is that of defence, and therefore we are attracted to the SNP idea of a council of the Isles.

As to an English Parliament, personally I feel that the English should have a Parliament as to bring Government closer to the Governed

You've just contradicted yourself in the space of a few paragraphs!

How will an English Parliament, which judging from the rest of your post will be engaged in developing a written constitution exclusively for England (obviously) bring government closer for the English peripheries?

Scotland is 5.1 million, Wales 3 million & N.Ireland 1.7 million. A major factor in the relative success enjoyed by the devolved institutions is the size of the populaces they represent and their percieved immediacy.

England as a stand alone territorial solution is 50 million so creating an English Parliament will specifically NOT solve the problem of immediacy, particularly for the existing English peripheries, which already suffer from chronic social and enconomic inequalities compared with their more affluent London/South East neighbours. Swapping the name over the door from UK to England will solve nothing - in fact it is likely to exacerbate this malign feature of the UK constitutional landscape.

A primary factor driving the English Nationalist community is the perceived levels of financial favouritism bestowed upon the devolved Nations. We can argue the reality of their claims but at least the problem is recognised.

So YES to a federal solution with the UK performing a relatively small government role but NO to an English Parliament, which will merely perpetuate the centralising culture we see in the current UK set up.

 

Peter Davidson, Alderley Edge, NW.England

Not logged in said:

Tue, 2008-07-15 00:48

From Keith McBurney

Padav,

So NO to a federal and Yes to a confederal solution, with the state we are in replaced by a Union of the Isles with the intergovernmental Council of the Isles dealing with such matters we chose in our mutual interests to pool our individual and several sovereignties in sharing risks and rewards (eg Defence).
And YES to decentralisation all round from our nations, principalities, provinces (+/- counties) and self governing islands and overseas territories to intermediate/area and local level with powers being passed upwards together with the requisite taxation of resources to fund the next levels, redistribute wealth and take part in collaborative policies and ventures, such as research and development, which merit our combined efforts and expertise.
An 'English' parliament might set about doing all of the above if the English electorate made itself heard. Unlock Democracy's Citizens' Convention Bill is the means. Holding your own Citizens' Constitutional Convention is the method. And - as you are individually and severally sovereign - you do not need any parliament's approval to get on with it. Trust those who would be party to the solution - that's you, me and us the people - rather than remain part of the the problem.
Freedom for all in liberty, equality and humanity, the prerequiste for such interdependence being independence, not cashback for votes dependance.
As here, so there. Sovereingty & Confederacy: the antidote to Unions' Blues.
Federation is so old hat, top down. In uniquely accommodating pro-Independence and pro-Union preferences, Confederation is a win win all round.
Aye Ours
Keith
Frae Fife and Yorkshire

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