kwatt, I was just wondering, could you advise me as to where I could get my hands on the same pair of rose tinted glasses that you seem to have - because judging by you post, those glasses seem to have spectacular results. Joke's aside, the only point I'd make is President George W. Bush, has no right to be liberating anybody. Finally, if the left are ignoring reality in Iraq and Afghanistan, then, you tell me, what is life like in those post-war countries? A bed of roses for all and sundry no doubt?