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CodicilPosts: Joined: 2003-02-15
Increasingly I am coming to see this 21st century as race between hope and fear. The hope is very, very real, as I have attempted to establish in much that has appeared here and elsewhere, but a victory for fear could be the end of us all. Americas genius for most of its existence has been as a source for hope; Lincoln memorably cast us as the last best hope of earth. It becomes perhaps the supreme irony of this moment that our President has enlisted us in the legions of fear, while invoking the rhetoric of hope to cover and confuse.
Nowhere is the muddled course of our present administration more apparent than in the doctrine of pre-emptive-preventive war. Simple logic declares it to be unworkable. If it allows us to attack Iraq on only our determination, it likewise empowers Pakistan to attack India, or China to attack Japan . . . or . . . or . . . and, of course, all of it vice-versa. It seems certain there must be a hidden codicil. (Indeed, if there isnt, the administration proclaims itself to be mindless nearly beyond belief.) One wonders how much the codicil openly declares. It must state we fully understand the doctrine to be viable provided we are the only ones who get to make war on its basis. It will almost certainly state we will be committed to contrive a world in which we,and we alone, have the power to execute the doctrine. What will be less clear will be the courses we will pursue to effect that end, and not the least the lengths to which we will be prepared to go in realizing our goal. Investing in overwhelming military might seems certain. Maneuvering to gain control of necessary resources is likely. But to what extent will the codicil contemplate undermining potential rivals, whether ostensible enemies or allies? And that does not deal with direct and aggressive use of overweening military power to bolster our position, or compromise potential rivals, whether friends or enemies.
To some extent of course, America pursued policies along the lines just proposed all during the Cold War. That confrontation with totalitarianism at once justified our actions to ourselves - and to our allies - and allowed us to deny alternate imperial constructions for what we were engaged in denying them to ourselves as well.
We engaged the Cold War on two fronts. One was collegial. That engagement explicitly sought to solve problems through working together with others. It looked to find and implement mutually beneficial solutions to problems between nations, although the benefit might at first extend to nothing other than a resolution without recourse to violence. After two World Wars, which arose in a world whose nations participated on the basis of the Law of the Jungle, it was decided that a continuation of that logic, with nuclear weaponry now in the wings, tempted fate far too egregiously. The United Nations, the Marshall Plan, NATO, SEATO, the European Common Market, a body of negotiated international accords on economic as well as political issues all became part of an effort the United States either led, participated in, or strongly approved. At the same time, a Soviet menace was recognized, and second front was opened with the policy of containment. In the end, for the common defense, whatever America deemed necessary for that second front, and could not or would not be provided by our allies, we would provide.
The Cold War ended with a resounding victory for this twin engagement. The incapacities of the Soviet Empire to compete in a world that increasingly came to thrive by the informed creativity of its people brought that Empire down without the cataclysm of war precisely the end everyone needed.
America now faced a choice. The benefits of collegiality had been demonstrated on any number of fronts, and outstandingly in the economic arena. It had also brought about a cautious acceptance of Americas role in the world as the lone superpower, both military and economic. But the military dominance especially harbored problems. Unless America could maintain confidence in the just, benign and constructive use of its power, the nations of the world were, and are, unlikely to accept that dominance for long. The choice was to continue to emphasize collegiality, or to allow the coercive aspect and apparatus of containment to overrun, even overturn, its mandate, and begin a series of overtly aggressive engagements with the world.
The first President Bush made the initial decision in favor of collegiality. Gulf War I presented us with a virtual miracle of accomplishment. But the second President Bush began by rejecting collegiality: abandoning Kyoto and the ABM Treaty, rejecting the World Court, absenting the US from the land mines convention, and from conventions on chemical and biological weapons. Then 9/11. In its aftermath, with the forward defense of freedom, and pre-emptive war the decision for collegiality was decisively reversed in favor of aggression, and explicitly extended to armed conflict. Some of this had merit, e.g. Afghanistan, but the rest, and especially Iraq, lack real merit.
With the end of the Cold War the ostensible reasons for activities such as those I have proposed to be part of the codicil lost any validity, at least in terms that reflected the better angels of our nature. Increasingly the vast majority of our post Cold War actions could be seen, and are now coming to be seen, as imperialism. Absent an understood, and overwhelmingly accepted, justification, there is no other likely interpretation for our actions which will be plausible to anyone but ourselves. And it is increasingly clear, it will be plausible only to those of us still in thrall to the fears engendered by 9/11, and to Neocons in thrall to their own ideological intoxications.
Neocons and their apologists, here and elsewhere, will argue that there is much in the policies they advocate that is simply in continuity with what has gone before. True enough to a point. It is the overarching strategic context that has changed. Cold War strategy yielded primacy to collegiality, while acknowledging the totalitarian threat of Russia and China by enlisting coercive power in the policy of containment. The Bush Doctrine cedes coercive force the dominant role through the forward defense of freedom and preemptive/preventive war, while relegating collegiality to a secondary role, as a useful adjunct, and often as mere window dressing. This fundamental change has been effected without formal acknowledgement, let alone the clear and unequivocal debate it merits.
The core of neocon ideology is a world governed by the law of the jungle. Their policies and actions, from Rebuilding Americas Defenses the signal document issued by the Project for a New American Century - to the National Security Strategy of the United States of 2002, which specifically invokes Pre-emptive/Preventive war, reflect this. Old Fashioned Imperialism, with an American accent, becomes the logical outcome, and I propose it is made explicit in a hidden codicil to National Security Strategy of the United States of 2002.
A world in which sovereign nations participate according to the law of the jungle proceeds by the conceptualism which pitched us into two horrific world wars in the last century. America and the alliance we worked with for fifty years, sought to replace that with something better. However imperfectly it worked, it embraced an understanding of the dangers of the jungle, which no nation, no matter how strong, can avoid in a world that fights with Weapons of Mass Destruction. The neocons policies move contrary to such understanding. (Although, as suggested, they will pay it occasional lip service when they find it useful to defray alarms over their machinations.) In reality, their courses effect a profound change of direction in American policy which they seek to hide from us, leaving it unstated (except between themselves), or expressed in hidden codicils, where it and their courses will never be subject to critique and re-consideration, let alone the process of democratic assent.
Our Cold War opposition was the very real, and very great, armed might of the Soviet Empire and of China. Our opposition now is a rag tag collection of fanatics, demonstrably lethal to much in their own world, whose greatest hope is that they can ignite a far larger conflict. To do this, they seek to exploit the angers, frustrations and resentments of the broad majority of their own people. That same broad majority, however, is confronted with another reality: the success of the developed world in providing unprecedented levels of material well being to a broad majority of its people. It becomes such that most citizens of the developed world look forward to achieving a decent life: to earning enough that they can think of marrying, raising a family, educating their children and retiring with a measure of comfort and security. It is by no means apparent that convincing the Arab and Muslim world that Osama bin Laden offers the best path to their future will be a no brainer. To accept the wisdom of Osama means essentially abandoning hope for what so much of the world has already achieved, and much more of it now appears to be moving towards. It is a contest the developed world can and should win. And for that, in a world that fights with Weapons of Mass Destruction, yielding armed confrontation pride of place appears to be a fools choice, and an opening to disaster. And to have yielded it almost without discussion or debate is unforgivable in a democracy.
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Submitted on Sat, 2005-04-23 23:51
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ronr327,
An extremely well articulated commentary on the essential difference between US foreign policy past and present.
It should be mandatory reading for neocons but I do not think the present crop on OD have the intellectual capacity to grasp the subtleties involved.
Submitted on Tue, 2005-04-26 00:54
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"It should be mandatory reading for neocons but I do not think the present crop on OD have the intellectual capacity to grasp the subtleties involved."
Hello kettle? This is pot. Yer black!
Submitted on Tue, 2005-04-26 01:23
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ronr327,
Wow. What a neat package. Your analysis reads like Star Wars. George Bush is the evil leader. Dick Chenny is Darth Vader. The stormtroopers are played by the neocons.Who do you see as the Confedertion? Would Saddam have made a good Princess Leia? The diverse terrorists in Iraq ( sunni terrorists, foreign terrorists, Zarqawi's gang, the criminal elements freed by Saddam still on the loose) make good wookies.
How will it end Yoda? Excuse me, I mean how will it end ronr327?
Submitted on Tue, 2005-04-26 07:14
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is it too much to hope for that someone will actually try using arguments to rebut this?
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Submitted on Tue, 2005-04-26 10:12
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Brolly,
Thank You
Henry,
Huh?
Ttrryosborn,
Double "Huh?"
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Submitted on Tue, 2005-04-26 22:16
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Ttrryosborn,
I do not know what the hell you are talking about and I have reached another conclusion - neither do you!
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Submitted on Thu, 2005-04-28 00:31
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Ttrryosborn,
Given what I have read of your other posts as well as the strange, irrelevant Star Wars mockery above, I'm going to guess that the reason you're frustrated with a lack of response is because response to your posts does not merit debate and discussion, but rather strange analogies and personal insults. If you wish to engage ronr327 on his topic, I suggest you read his post, locate the places that precipitate disagreement, determine why you disagree, and clearly articulate your argument in a conversational tone. You'll be surprised at the results!
Submitted on Thu, 2005-04-28 01:27
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Dear CAustin,
This IS a forum. Here, one is free to agree, or disgree, with everyone from the President of the United States to the Prime Minister of Great Britain to you and other contributors. Mockery is often the best response. It challenges directly the validity of the message without excessive verbage. If the cuts hurt too much, don't play.
Submitted on Thu, 2005-04-28 02:45
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Mockery is often the
> best response. It challenges directly the validity of
> the message without excessive verbage. If the cuts
> hurt too much, don't play.
Mockery is never the best response. Mockery is always the worst possible response short of a personal attack.
If you disagree with the original post then why don't you provide some evidence and arguments to support your views.
Submitted on Thu, 2005-04-28 13:02
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Goiggoig,
Mockery is the worst response for those with no imagination.
Submitted on Thu, 2005-04-28 19:06
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> Goiggoig,
> Mockery is the worst response for those with no
> imagination.
I reiterate, in a debate, mockery is beaten only by personal attacks as the worst possible form of argument.
Submitted on Fri, 2005-04-29 09:00
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goiggoig,
reiterate whatever you like. I will give your future posts the merit they deserve.
Submitted on Sat, 2005-04-30 04:33
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> goiggoig,
> reiterate whatever you like. I will give your future
> posts the merit they deserve.
because I refuse to personally attack people? because I always back up my opinions instead of mocking other people's posts?
Submitted on Sat, 2005-04-30 09:31
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ronr327,
A very good analysis if slightly polar in its message. However you seem to have got the essentials right. It was also very well written. Inter alia you stated:
The Cold War ended with a resounding victory for this twin engagement. The incapacities of the Soviet Empire to compete in a world that increasingly came to thrive by the informed creativity of its people brought that Empire down without the cataclysm of war precisely the end everyone needed.
It ended in a "victory" - exhaustion of the enemy" - and the tactics you described were indeed the reason for it. It also produced some marvels, such as the Apollo program. I still regret its demise. But it also was achieved at a cost, and that cost was a concentration on the military uses of science and the devotion of resources to that rather than science for "good" purposes. I'm not arguing that America should have done anything else - the alternative was clearly direct conflict - but I think we should acknowledge that the US and much of the rest of the western world did pay a price. The present situation may be part of that.
Submitted on Fri, 2005-04-29 14:01
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Ttrryosborn,
You have just taken three independent responses to your outrageous conduct and refused to engage them. I give up on you at this point; you are obviously not interested in intelligent debate; you view our forum as a place to let off steam, not discuss issues intelligently.
I have encountered people from the right who are intelligent, thought-provoking, and capable of changing my mind from time to time. You are not one of them. It is unfortunate that those who are interested in intelligent debate must endure your angry, childlike presence.
Submitted on Sat, 2005-04-30 18:57
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What a curious bedraggled tail this thread has generated.
Not, however, unprecedented.
Caustin,
You appear to be somewhat new here, and quite earnest in your concerns. You are hoping, I gather, for extended and well considered debate. Most of the enteries on OpenDemocracy forums, fortunately or unfortunately, tend towards the like you have seen following the initial post on this thead. What is different from other forums I have seen, however, is that kind of participation does not represent the bulk of what is written here. Which is to say that longer pieces, although less common, tend to attempt more serious discussion. Despite the reality that too many, even of those, decline towards indulgent rants, I find there remains as a significant body of writing - even parts of the rants - worthy of your engaged attention, But you will have to look for it.
Most here either approve of the War in Iraq or oppose it, and participate accordingly. I have yet to observe any on one side converted by any on the other. People have real problems with admitting they are, or were, wrong. I, of course(!), believe I could be convinced by facts and reason.
Deyond that, I have a day job, and lack both the energy and time to spend all the effort I might otherwise bring here. Hence, you may suppose, my (nearly) rigorous decline of Ttrrosborns (silly?) gambit. I will retire in year or so, and things may change. [Although in cases like that of Ttrrosborn, I expect I would only reply in a similarly economic (cryptic?), and dismissive manner.]
Submitted on Sun, 2005-05-01 11:52
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Ronr,
While I enjoy reading people's theories about international relations in general, or particularist variations thereof (i.e. "why the U.S. is really an imperialist hyper-power in a cheap disguise!"), the tendency on OD is for long expositions to wander off into odd tangents and forget where they started.
In your case, you carefully start off talking about hope or fear as signifiers of the place of the US in the 21st-century -- a statement I find interesting seeing as we are only 5% into the era. Like all categorizations about the past or present, you have tried to organize and systematize the momentous events of the past couple of decades. All to the good, of course. Still, one can quibble with things left in, as well as things left out. Ok, on to the review.
First, I would disagree with the use of the term "muddled", for what could be *more* clear than a statement (Sep 02 NSS) saying the United States will not wait to be attacked if the elements of the government responsible for the security and well-being of citizens believe preventative action is necessary?
Second, it does *not* therefore follow that there is some hidden "codicil" to the NSS (akin, in your view one supposes, to Hitler and Stalin's avarice regarding Poland, the Baltic States and the other unfortunates of eastern Europe in 1939?). Indeed, there is no need for such a codicil, since as you yourself suspect, all nations have (except in a very few cases where the international environment is favorable to a childlike diplomatic trust in parental neighbors) and continue to operate, and believe, that ultimate sovereignty lies with their own governments.
Third, that being said, it is also quite clear to pretty much everyone that those clever Italians who invented the modern forms of diplomacy in the of-so dangerous 15th-century were on to something. There's a reason everyone has State Department's, and ambassadors to the UN, etc. Because it works. And funny, I still see daily briefings from the State Department, they have a funding line in the budget (indeed, with Condi running the show, they received a 15% budget increase this year) and, oddly, even the primitive, paleolithic neocon dominated Bush administration still keeps sending envoys and the like to talk to the EU about Iran or the Chinese, Japanese, Russians and South Koreans about the Northerners. From you perspective, of course, I wouldn't have expected those "law of the jungle" types to understand that at all.
In sum, your either or "collegiality or not" argument needs a bit of work. Could be that its' just not worth the effort...
BTW, while your analysis of the Cold War was nicely done, but it has the disadvantage of being applicable to pretty much anyone, anywhere and at anytime so long as they have functioning military and diplomatic structure, and are recognized states.
Fourth, and I found this most amusing, you see to have left out a two-term President between Bush the Elder and the Younger. But then perhaps that might mess up your sewn-up-tight assumptions if you had to fold Clinton, Haiti/Somalia and Bosnia into the mix.
Fifth, you then describe post 9/11 events as "imperialism," a baggage-laden phrase clearly intended to be pejorative. As such, it implies you are not being a serious person about the issue.
Lastly, it is by no means clear that military action is the sine quo non of American foreign policy. Put another way, if you do believe that sort of thing, then clearly you are not paying attention and are instead listening inside an echo chamber.
To recap:
There's nothing muddled about post-9/11 US foreign policy, quite the contrary.
There's no need for a hidden codicil or conspiracy theories; American national security strategy is open for all to see.
Third, diplomacy is and has always been a decisive participant in American foreign policy.
Fourth, careful of arguments that are too cute and bipolar.
Fifth, baggage laden words like "empire" and "imperialism" reek of discredited Marxist jargon, ill-suited for making coherent, structured arguments. Now, perhaps if you defined the term rather than just leaving it there like something that leaked out of Thomas McCormick or William Applemen Williams...
And sixth, your argument would be a lot stronger and less breathless if you could disprove the following statement: "Armed conflict is not the primary solution to the hundreds of international events, disagreements and crises encountered by the United States since September 2001."
Perhaps that is a better response to your essay than mockery.
Tim
Submitted on Wed, 2005-05-04 18:57
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Pappy Bush was a self-proclaimed globalist and the current gang's foreign 'policy' is a continuation of Pappy's globalist agenda.
The aim is one world government (Pappy's New World Order) - the gang wants the world. It's mob war in a sense - the biggest, meanest gang gets to run the turf. In this case the turf is planet Earth.
With this in mind, it's easy to understand the current US foreign policy. Our WMD are good, yours are bad. If you're not with us, you're against us. If you think your government represents you, you're with us - if you don't, you're against us.
It's quite simple (I'm afraid): are you part of the gang, and if not, do you trust it to run the world? The world has never had an unchallenged regime. Globalists think it should have, I see it for what it is: a recipe for disaster. I fear this makes me an enemy because I don't think like the gang.
There, I managed to grind my old axe without mocking anyone. Is that a good thing?
Submitted on Thu, 2005-05-05 04:04
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jmmaloney,
With your paranoia in hand, we have one obsessed boy.
Submitted on Thu, 2005-05-05 04:24
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> jmmaloney,
> With your paranoia in hand, we have one obsessed boy.
he disagrees with you so he's wrong, rather than feeding your obsessions with their own obsessions and that being an opinion?
I see what you mean now.
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Submitted on Thu, 2005-05-05 08:00
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goiggoig,
Your message to jmmaloney is a jumble of words. Could you straighten them out? Thank you.
Submitted on Fri, 2005-05-06 02:28
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> goiggoig,
> Your message to jmmaloney is a jumble of words. Could
> you straighten them out? Thank you.
My message was to you, as you could see with great ease by the fact that the word jmmaloney was part of a quote from your post.
May I suggest that if you do not under stand the meaning of my message you take out a dictionary? it will become much clearer then.
Submitted on Sat, 2005-05-07 10:13
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Mock before you are mocked might be a useful rule here, I think.
Paranoia is not an ailment I have ever suffered from. I'd say I'm no more paranoid than that mis-spelling chap is a psychiatrist.
Post a view - get a diagnosis. OpenPsychiatry - the site to cure your delusions (and make you a right-thinker?).
Or is it a simple case of attack the messenger, the age-old tactic of a person who is in the wrong?
I recognise a gang when I see one. It's criminal behaviour tends to point out it's nature.
I could be wrong.
Submitted on Sat, 2005-05-07 19:43
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