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Iron Mike

5 August 2008 - 1:39pm

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That means they need to listen to OUR views and respect them.

How haven't they? Who's threatening our democracy?

Hello? Two attacks on the WTC, USS Cole, Embassy bombing ring a bell with you? You demand we listen to their views and respect them and deny us reciprocity? Should our respect for their views include radical Islam requiring conversion or death? Or do you cherry pick the views we should respect. Smart move--don't get too specific. Are you sure you're not a foreign policy advisor to Nobama?

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IM: Absolutely! And [we should listen to their views and respect them] as long as they don't try to kill us,

Candace: In other words: anyone who resists is a terrorist

In other words, anyone who tries to KILL us is a terrorist. If they wish to resist peacefully, I support their rights to do so. Protest, pray, elect like-minded legislators, are all good democratic examples for us and them.

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So you are going to impose a society that states its ok to do the wrong thing in the Middle East peacefully? The land of social conservatism? What if popular opinion disagrees with you? Then what happens to their democratic rights?

I said nothing about "imposing a society" at all--more of your distractions (or trolling). I advocated peaceful trade and promotion of democratic values, but acknowledge the downside of democracy---that you cannot have free will and choice without some people making the choice to do wrong. That is not advocacy for doing wrong and you know it.

What if popular opinion disagrees with me? Whose popular opinion are you talking about. If their popular opinion disagrees, then fine...trade with some other country. If domestic public opinion disagrees with me, then we'll have President Nobama.

Repost: And as long as they don't try to kill us, then we can afford to live and let live. But the fact remains that many of these countries have few resources EXCEPT their oil and they cannot eat it; they have to trade with the world community if they want our goods and services. That means they need to listen to OUR views and respect them.

Your responses say a LOT about your ideology and soundly disprove your absurd assertion that you are more conservative than me. Were that true, you would be starting a thread about Nobama's foreign policy instead of slapping pejorative "Neocon" labels on McCain, crudely deriding anyone who supports him with ad hominem attacks as "assholes", and arguing emotional Left wing rhetoric instead of facts.

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Candace:

"John McCain is a neocon."

"Words cannot describe how much I loathe neocons and their asshole supporters."

I have been consistent and so has McCain. In a nutshell, peaceful trade and promotion of democratic values; apply force to counter force when diplomacy fails. No threat, no force. It's pretty simple. To quote YOU, "Are you pretending to be stupid in order to troll me or are you just trying to troll me?" You are doing exactly what you accuse TT of doing. Methinks the lady doth protest too much.