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salmanrahman on "Hizb ut Tahrir: The Islamic Rule on Hijacking Aeroplanes"

salmanrahman — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 23:07:24 +0100

In 1962 the US government produced a policy document on the preparation for the invasion of Cuba. It included creating a terrorist cell in Florida to create anti-Cuban public opinion and an attack on US warships, to ignite a "remember the Maine" campaign See http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/northwoods.pdf With the current track record of the Bush and Blair governments can anyone trust the filtered and censored media reports we are exposed to these days?

paul_7 on "Hizb ut Tahrir: The Islamic Rule on Hijacking Aeroplanes"

paul_7 — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:47:07 +0100

I hope I'm not the only one who is not too impressed at the case being made on the basis of a policy statement now nearly twenty years old on the possibly 'technically correct' grounds that it has 'not been rescinded .. or superseded'. Many groups - including supposed 'democratic' ones such as the governing parties of the UK and US - issue all kinds of threats which they never carry out. More importantly, though, Hizb ut Tahrir has not - as far as I am aware - ever actually hijacked a plane or carried out mass murder. The same cannot be said of the US government, which did plan and facilitate the real (or possibly faked) hijacking of several planes and the deliberate murder of several thousand civilians on September 11th 2001. Based on that faked attack by 'Islamic terrorists', the US (with Britain's willing assistance) then proceeded to invade two countries and kill several hundred thousand people, mostly innocent civilians. Which ones are the REAL terrorists? I suggest that the following is a more accurate version of your original sentence: The Republican Party of America (and possibly the New Labour Party of Britain) is a party whose existing policy sanctions the (faked) hijacking of aeroplanes, and the killing of their passengers and of several thousand New York citizens (not to mention the illegal and immoral invasion of a sovereign country and the murder of hundreds of thousands of its citizens).

Todd Gitlin on "Hizb ut Tahrir: The Islamic Rule on Hijacking Aeroplanes"

Todd Gitlin — Sat, 20 Aug 2005 16:33:13 +0100

It's quite striking that Abdul Wahir does not engage a single one of David T's particulars--not one. This is precisely the sort of evasion David T documents. Congratulations, David, for cutting through the smoke.

Hizb ut Tahrir: The Islamic Rule on Hijacking Aeroplanes,

davidt.harryblog@gmail.com — Fri, 19 Aug 2005 11:17:58 +0100

Hizb ut Tahrir professes to be a non violent organisation and is seeking to avoid a ban on the basis that they do not incite their members to violence and specifically do not permit violence against civilians. On their page: "FAQ About Hizb ut-Tahrir", the party states: The rules of Islam forbid any aggression against civilian non-combatants. They forbid the killing of children, the elderly and non-combatant women even in the battlefield. They forbid the hijacking of civilian aeroplanes carrying innocent civilians and forbid the destruction of homes and offices that contain innocent civilians. All of these actions are types of aggression that Islam forbids. Read the rest of this post...