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keith_4 on "O ye who would insult Muslims, behold what White European Christians have w"

keith_4 — Thu, 01 Feb 2007 13:02:55 +0000

> O ye who would insult Muslims, behold what White > European Christians have wrought! > > > O ye packs of wolves and herds of sheep, > ye who would defame Islam, > Behold ye rather what White European Christians have > provoked! > In the bright daylight of the marketplace, > a lantern has revealed their relentless impiteous > design. > Verily, they have called into being Nietzsches > Ugliest Man > And have rejoiced in fraying the tightrope. > > (With apologies to Zarathustra) what about your terrorists and suicide bombers? now your peaceful brothers are plotting to kidnap and behead their fellow moslems in England. about time you looked at yourselves instead of blaming it all on us.

kerrygoulde on "O ye who would insult Muslims, behold what White European Christians have w"

kerrygoulde — Tue, 11 Apr 2006 10:41:43 +0000

Quick... delete his post! He's catching on!!! If you really believed Moslem posts were being deleted, why did you bother posting this? What's with the tiresome 'Jewish conspiracy' rhetoric? Me, I'm a big subscriber to the 'chaos' theory of history, sinister conspiracies just don't do it for me.

Kiumars on "O ye who would insult Muslims, behold what White European Christians have w"

Kiumars — Sat, 01 Apr 2006 02:28:26 +0000

This is a Jewish site; they delete Muslim posts and keep the Jewish post. Check it if you do not believe me! The portion of Jew/Muslim posts is 110/1! Is that a coincident or what? There are only 15 million Jews in the world and more than 1,500 million Muslims!

CyroMax on "O ye who would insult Muslims, behold what White European Christians have w"

CyroMax — Sun, 12 Mar 2006 23:38:17 +0000

Craptalk, The respond to your message does not deserve anything but one of my one liner!!!!! Craptalk writes... "They are the real looters of the world." Ok... Now that's just pure bullshit. The thieves calling the victims, "you are the thieves". The amount of money those Europen bastards stole, Muslims/Hindus should stay free in Europe for next couple of century. Keep it up!!!! Soon you will be promoted to Irguns's place. Who knows maybe your name should be Irgun II. Message was edited by: zamantheman

seculartalk on "O ye who would insult Muslims, behold what White European Christians have w"

seculartalk — Sun, 05 Mar 2006 19:05:27 +0000

What does European Colonization have to do with global threat? Colonization was a progression of that times, but politically incorrect if perceived from our times. Islam is not only a religion but also has political ambition. There are innumerable statements of Muslim leaders to back it. Islam has a Dar-Ul-Islam as one of its tenets that states that the peace Islam promises is deliverable on the entire world turning Islam...Islam as a religion is a personal choice but when Muslims become majority, the state of non-Muslims is a documented fact, all over the world, including India that you quote so freely about. I would rather state that British played the divide and rule game because the Muslims in the sub-continent were hell bent on dividing. If at all British contributed anything to dividing India, it was more as a facilitator to the creators of Pakistan. Muslim leaders were hell bent on creating a country for Muslims, Pakistan that is translated into (roughly) Land of Purity... All are welcome to judge how pure this land is now... Oh well, Islam poses a threat to Europe alright.. Look at the illegal immigrants coming into the infidel land. Listen to the voices emnating from the minars in France. With the enormouse birth rate of the legal and illegal immigrants coupled with the low birth rate of the native Europeans... the Caliphate has arrived. We understand that there are 'liberated' areas in France where the local government and law agencies dare not go in...I have heard the same from a German friend of mine in some German cities. You seem to be indulging in begging with a tinge of violence. If we are to ask someone to return the money they are looting, I think Muslims should unite against the Oil producing countries selling Crude at about 30 to 50 times the cost of production. They are the real looters of the world. They arrogant Muslim countries are infact responsible for high cost of living all over the world and the real villains of the world. Ask them to give it back.

CyroMax on "O ye who would insult Muslims, behold what White European Christians have w"

CyroMax — Thu, 02 Mar 2006 08:02:09 +0000

kingstukie, I have a bone to pick with you. you said: "Idiots who deny Islam is a threat deny history." Ok... you ignorant, let me smack you with some history!!!! Have you forgotten European colonization in Asia, especially by Great Britain? East Indian Company? Ring a bell, you ignorant!!!! Or did you skip that chapter in your history book???? Yes I will not deny India was ruled by Islamic empire, but that was long time ago, you ignorant!!!! Things have changed. We live in a very advanced society with rules and regulation, you ignorant!!!!! how the h**l you come up with the conclusion that Islam poses threat to Europe!!!!! What threats you are talking about???? Ottoman Empire lost its grip at 1918. Was a threat to Europe. your answer better be good!!!!! Let me give you one example, where an Islamic governed Asian country was latter ruled by Great Britain. dont you skip it, you ignorant. India was ruled by Islamic Mugual Empire until British came in, you ignorant. The damn British Empire ended in 1947. India was ruled by British for about 200 years. You can imagine the economic condition of India at that time but then again since you are ignorant I dont think you do. Its not even 60 years ago, people saw the end of British colony. Who knows what would happended if it wasn't for Gandhi and WWII. That is not very long time. While they were in India they played a game of conspiracy with Muslim against Hindus and vice versa. They oppressed Indians by forcing them to work on indigo plantation. British left the country divided. You wanna know more about this, you fag!!! Now the same pathetic British Empire dare sings the same song with that bone head Bush when it comes to Iraq and Palestine/Israel conflict. It seems to me that Europe is posing threat to Islam. may I add I have zero respect for British Royal family except princess Diana. I feel like saying, Give the resources that you have stolen, right now!!! End the poverty right now, you thieves. This is just one of the colony, and one of the European country. Do you need to digest more history or is it enough for one day, you ignorant? watch out Europeans, Islam is posing a great deal of threats. yeah right when pig flies!!! Message was edited by: zamantheman

kingstukie on "O ye who would insult Muslims, behold what White European Christians have w"

kingstukie — Mon, 27 Feb 2006 14:24:59 +0000

We shouldn't be surprised this. Europe has sold out its people and cultures for cheap labour and weak investments. Its only fitting these events should coincide at a time when Europe lacks any real leadership. Europeans need to realise how serious a threat Islam is Europe and have the courage to delve into the harsh realities of what need to be done. Idiots who deny Islam is a threat deny history. This should be a call to arms to remove this wart from the Europe. And Cherif to hell with you and your Allah

irgun43 on "O ye who would insult Muslims, behold what White European Christians have w"

irgun43 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:43:18 +0000

> Irgun, > > I do not want to disclose my identity. But if you > live in Israel, the country in which I live is very > close to yours. > > Cheers. Oh ok What a pity that we can't share a drink but this is the next best thing. I've been to Israel often but I live in the USA. I'm a friend of israel.

M_7 on "O ye who would insult Muslims, behold what White European Christians have w"

M_7 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:12:42 +0000

Irgun, I do not want to disclose my identity. But if you live in Israel, the country in which I live is very close to yours. Cheers.

irgun43 on "O ye who would insult Muslims, behold what White European Christians have w"

irgun43 — Mon, 12 Dec 2005 02:56:09 +0000

Dear M7 I'd like to know what country you live in and gender - just out of curiosity The fact that you can quote Dante makes me think of the last of the latin philosophers , Boethius, facing the Visigoths

M_7 on "O ye who would insult Muslims, behold what White European Christians have w"

M_7 — Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:03:11 +0000

Dear Mr. Cherif, I have understood -in another discussion- that you hold Christian Europeans directly responsible for what Jews would do wrong. That is interesting. I hadn't heard that song (if it's wrong, blame Europe) for some time. And I was reminded of an idea that Alain Finkielkraut, in an interview posted elsewhere, has proposed: what sets Europe apart is not that it has engaged in slavery, but that it has abolished it. I am curious, by the way, who do you hold responsible for what you do wrong. And who can I hold responsible for what I do wrong? And Europe - who can 'Europe' hold responsible for what we do wrong? Possibly you hold Aznar responsible for the attacks on Madrid of 11 March, the Islamic invaders of Spain for the Crusaders' invasions in the Middle East and -why not?- the Palestinians for the expulsion from their lands in 1948. Mabrouk! Dear Mr. Cherif, I am sorry if I sound disrespectful, but I find that you should not play with responsibility, and not engage in the cheap and all too easy game of blaming Europe for everything one does not like. You should not avoid doing this for me (although also I would appreciate this), but for yourself, because in my view, this type of argumentation does not contribute to your credibility. And, to be clear, I find that you can not hold 'Irgun' responsible for what you write at this forum - if he/she makes you so angry that you feel you write things you normally wouldn't, then I can only recommend that you ignore him/her. Incidentally, I have once heard about a 'law' on Internet, saying that whoever, in a debate, compares his opponent with a Nazi, has lost the discussion. However elaborately one does that, does, in as far as I have understood, not matter. Best wishes. PS speaking of sheep, I believe it was Dante, who wrote: "[...] the wolf does not care how many the sheep are".

irgun43 on "O ye who would insult Muslims, behold what White European Christians have w"

irgun43 — Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:32:54 +0000

The true face of Islam is this Leading Islamist Sheikh Yousef Al-Qaradhawi: "We Will Be Victorious, Allah Willing - Despite Set By Judaism & Crusaders" The following are excerpts from Sheikh Yousef Al-Qaradhawi's Friday December 2, 2005, which aired the same date on Qatar TV. Sheikh Al-Qaradhawi is head of the European Council for Fatwa and Research, president of the International Association of Muslim Scholars (IAMS), and the spiritual guide of many other Islamist organizations across the world (including the Muslim Brotherhood). In this sermon, hediscusses the Jews at the time of Muhammad, as well as the situation in Iraq, calling for Iraq to be protected from the "American Satan." For more on Sheikh Al-Qaradhawi, see accompanying list. TO VIEW CLIP VISIT http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=949. Sheikh Al-Qaradhawi: "These polytheist pagan invaders were joined by the Jews - the Jews of the Banu Qurayza tribe, who remained in Al-Madina, and who did to the Prophet Muhammad things that require punishment, by forging an alliance with the Banu Nazir tribe against the Prophet. But the Prophet forgave them and allowed them to remain in Al-Madina. Nevertheless, their nature got the better of them, and they violated the treaty and the covenant of protection between them and the Prophet. [...] "How great is the similarity between past and present, brothers. We Muslims are besieged by many forces that want to uproot the Muslims under various pretexts - the pretext of terrorism, the pretext of fundamentalism, this pretext or that pretext. The goal is to fight this nation. They want to eradicate the nation of Islam. [...] "We are now under a siege that resembles the Siege of the Trench, the Siege of Akhzab. "But we will be victorious, Allah willing - despite the traps set by Judaism and the Crusaders, and despite the deeds of those who set traps and who deceive. [...] "The Prophet besieged them for 25 days until they surrendered and agreed to accept his reign. The Prophet called upon them to choose a judge, and they chose Sa'd bin Mu'az, who had been their ally in the Jahiliyya [the pre-Islamic era]. [...] "He decided that the only treatment they merited was to have their fighters killed, their women taken captive, and their property seized as booty. [...] "Some Orientalists claim that Muhammad was cruel to the Jews, but this is how determination should be. One must be firm when firmness is warranted, and gentle when gentleness is warranted. [...]

O ye who would insult Muslims, behold what White European Christians have w,

cherif.rifaat — Sat, 10 Dec 2005 16:31:25 +0000

O ye who would insult Muslims, behold what White European Christians have wrought! O ye packs of wolves and herds of sheep, ye who would defame Islam, Behold ye rather what White European Christians have provoked! In the bright daylight of the marketplace, a lantern has revealed their relentless impiteous design. Verily, they have called into being Nietzsches Ugliest Man And have rejoiced in fraying the tightrope. (With apologies to Zarathustra)