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owly on "muslims killing each other again"

owly — Mon, 02 Apr 2007 20:44:45 +0100

If you persecute Christians in Muslims lands then you have no right to complain if Muslims are persecuted in Christian lands. As it is the behaviour of many Imans in Mosques in the United Kingdom is disgraceful, as was show recently on a Channel 4 programme 'Undercover Mosque'. All we see is intolerance, bigotry and hate. Perhaps you could explain why we should put up with this crap from your fellow Muslims. And remember as Muslims you are quick to scream that any attack on a muslim is an attack on all muslims, so one must logically assume you share the bigotry and hate we see in Islam every single day.

angelic on "muslims killing each other again"

angelic — Mon, 02 Apr 2007 19:10:55 +0100

owly im sorry u think like this about islam i know the muslims have very strict rules in muslim lands and i think that it is unfair because i once was christian but then i converted...but still like i sed..u guys take too many general ideas about things...like u see a muslim guy doin something bad..then u think all muslims are like that, but they're not...trust me

owly on "muslims killing each other again"

owly — Mon, 02 Apr 2007 18:45:28 +0100

All Islam has brought to the world is violence. The Pope was quite right to use the quote he did last year. When Muslims start to show tolerance and respect for the religions and beliefs of others then they will receive the same in return. Here in the West we ought to be far more draconian in our treatment of Islam, mirroring the treatment Christians receive in Muslim lands.

angelic on "muslims killing each other again"

angelic — Sun, 01 Apr 2007 19:32:29 +0100

u guys are being very unopenminded...i mean, okay so saudi's dont like anything but islam and they dont let any women go out not wearing an abaya and they dont like crosses that much...and yes they are also not openminded. and just so you know man4mtns, its obvious that u dont know anything at all about islam...the muslims totaly believe in Jesus (god bless him) but look at it from their point of view...they think that because Jesus mankind, it would be impossible for him to be the Lord. Man must not worship man! it does make sense, okay! but how do u expect muslims to accept ur religon, when u dont even try their's? And the quran makes way more sense than the bible...isnt it clear to you, that the bible was rewritten? and why is it that not TWO qurans are diff, but there are so many different bibles? huh?! In the Quran it says: "Say: O disbelievers! I worship not that which ye worship; Nor worship ye that which i worship. And i shall not worship that which ye worship Nor will ye worship that which ye worship You keep your religon, and leave me be with mine" Surah ALkafiroon. You dont have to become muslim...just do not critisize the muslims.

steelers on "muslims killing each other again"

steelers — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 01:46:13 +0000

the vatican is 108 acres. How big is mecca and how big is saudi arabia? If you kept 108 acres free of churches in mecca, then you would be exactly even with the vatican.

mhmtyldrm on "muslims killing each other again"

mhmtyldrm — Tue, 20 Mar 2007 18:27:00 +0000

Steelers I said I think Christians should allowed to build any churches in Saudi Arabia (except holy lands (mecca,medina) because nonmuslim shouln't enter these lands according to our belief) you said: Then according to you it would be alright to expel all muslims living in the west and tell them to move to.....anywhere in the ME. I could agree with that! I wonder how can you inferred that? Can we build any mosques to Vatican?

steelers on "muslims killing each other again"

steelers — Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:43:37 +0000

Then according to you it would be alright to expel all muslims living in the west and tell them to move to.....anywhere in the ME. I could agree with that!

mhmtyldrm on "muslims killing each other again"

mhmtyldrm — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:11:19 +0000

to Steelers:: "As Islam's birthplace, Saudi Arabia will never allow churches to be built, said Prince Sultan. RIYADH, Saudi Arabia, March 14, 2003 (AP)" You can guess Not only Mecca all of Saudi Arabia considered by Saudi Arabia Government as Islam's birthplace. I think Christians should allowed to build any churches in Saudi Arabia (except holy lands(mecca,medina) because nonmuslim shouln't enter these lands according to our belief)

steelers on "muslims killing each other again"

steelers — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:01:02 +0000

.to STEELERS 2 you said that "I think there should be as many mosques in england as there are churches in Saudi Arabia. There should be just as many muslims in england as there are Christians living in Saudi Arabia also. Does this not seem fair to you?" I don't know that the christians in Saudi Arabia want to make churches in Saudi Arabia and Goverment refuse them.But if they want to make church but refused from Government(Except in Mecca because it is the city non muslim cannot enter)it is unfair absolutely."However There is a lot of churches in Turkey,Yemen,Syria,Iraq,Iran,Lebanon,Endonesia,etc. Christians will build churches anywhere they are allowed. S Arabia allows none. Muslims should be treated the same way in the west meaning not allowed. Did you hear me say anything about those other countries?

mhmtyldrm on "muslims killing each other again"

mhmtyldrm — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 02:18:52 +0000

My english is bad, sorry We love our lifestyle and , we love our life because Allah created us and our life.We love death because death will come by Allah and Allah created death for people. We are not afraid to die because we will die , we won't lose anything in earth.Our money, home , car useless in the life after die. We say "Why do you kill us" because killing people is sin.It is very bad thing. The some of the others(Not all of them) don't love God,They worship money, power.Some of them say they are really believers .They love life.They don't want to die because they afraid to die.They fear because they are afraid to lose their money they are afraid to disappear(they imagine,believe) after dying.Some of them want to change the rules of the religions. My questions to COLE: 1.Why some of yours(jew christian etc.) imagine the Azrael - the angel of death - as reaper, black covered(I saw in your films cartoons etc.)use as a figure of fear, and why some of yours fear from dying. Why some of christians jewish etc. imagine other angels as white covered but azrael(reaper) black covered.Do you believe Azrael doing things that God wanted? Do you belive this is true ? .to STEELERS 2 you said that "I think there should be as many mosques in england as there are churches in Saudi Arabia. There should be just as many muslims in england as there are Christians living in Saudi Arabia also. Does this not seem fair to you?" I don't know that the christians in Saudi Arabia want to make churches in Saudi Arabia and Goverment refuse them.But if they want to make church but refused from Government(Except in Mecca because it is the city non muslim cannot enter)it is unfair absolutely."However There is a lot of churches in Turkey,Yemen,Syria,Iraq,Iran,Lebanon,Endonesia,etc. to man4mtns 3.man4mtns I think the Jesus you believe in is not the true Jesus.You should research Iznic council(325) Barnaba Bible and Pavlus .I hope youwill see the truth.I am praying to Allah.Peace About muslims killing:, We muslims are brothers and sisters, we shouldn't kill each other,Who Believe Allah, please help to stop these killings.Sunni and Shiite are same.Please.

abdulksaida on "muslims killing each other again"

abdulksaida — Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:22:20 +0000

cole 1- Yes I think muslims love death more than live, as they are sure sooner or later they will die, and I dont mean to be killed with others or to let them killed with no purpose, but as a relegion , have rules and obeying it , and we believe in the hearafter reward for good people and who worship God , and as you know most of suffer is in the middle east, and for that good muslims dont afraid from death and want to be rewarded as I dont know if christianity beleive in reward after death or not ? 2- why to confuse, of course we must not afraid from death come by God, not to be killed with no reason, and that is normal, no body wants to be killed by war or just for killing and God dont allow that, it is only the normal death which muslims are not afraid of it, if really they obey God, as I think practising islam is not easy for everyone as we cant do what ever we wish to do, their are contstrains in this life, so if we keep our selves and control it, so of course we deserve good life later, so that is my opinion and may be their are different opinions also among muslims

Cole_2233 on "muslims killing each other again"

Cole_2233 — Sat, 10 Mar 2007 19:58:53 +0000

My question is why do the Muslims in the Middle East always say WE LOVE DEATH - WHILE THEY (the Jews and all others) LOVE LIFE !! WE ARE NOT AFRAID TO DIE !! But then when they get killed, it is all WHY DO YOU KILL US !! I am comfused? Maybe someone can help?

golean_88 on "muslims killing each other again"

golean_88 — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 20:36:47 +0000

owly: 1.As you know, Most Western governments considering Muslims are terrorists Especially the United States And Muslims are treated as citizens Third-degree This is observed in America and Britain dont be angry ( you want to punish all muslims about London and 9/11 events what we should say about 4 million innocents people were killed in Iraq only)from 1991-2007. 2.There are some mosques in Britain (thats right)But not out of love for muslims ,and you know among 4 million muslims Scientists and owners of capital and factories and Britain benefit economically from that, Even through cheap labor (a courtesy only)And you know more than that all British Governments did not stop with the Arabs and Muslims in all their life (Britain the most state Colonized other countries ). 3.Non-building churches in the Arabian Peninsula Due to Christianity did not exist and spread Not before Islam or even after, For this there are no churches ,but look to Iraq, Syria,Lebanon,Palestine ,Egypt where you can see many of churches there Because Christianity has existed for thousands of years there . 4.The West does not want the construction of churches for Christians who living in the Arabian Peninsula In order to worship this is not right But To serve the Christian church The aim of evangelization there ,And this really happened in Kuwait they built an only church and after some years Some foreign universities Distributed what they call it (the new forqan)or(new Quraan) And I have a lot of evidence of attempts by the Vatican The attack on the tomb of the Prophet Mohammed .(I hope you know a reason ) good night . 5.I have heard that the number of people visiting the churches in Britain Declining each year, Most Christians have not to know god in six days Only in sunday If they were committed ( Do you believe this requires the construction of a church ).........While Muslims go to the mosque five times a day .and you can be compared between the two.

steelers on "muslims killing each other again"

steelers — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 17:48:14 +0000

I think there should be as many mosques in england as there are churches in Saudi Arabia. There should be just as many muslims in england as there are Christians living in Saudi Arabia also. Does this not seem fair to you?

owly on "muslims killing each other again"

owly — Sun, 25 Feb 2007 22:16:34 +0000

Golean_88, So as we in the UK have a 'state religion' (Church of England Christian) don't you think it would be a good idea if we suppressed all other religions ? I believe there are about 4 million Moslems in the UK. Do you think we should expel them all and it would be a good idea if we demolished every Mosque in the UK ? After all the presence of so many heretics is bad for our country as I am sure you would agree.

muslims killing each other again,

keith_4 — Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:15:41 +0000

why are they killing each other again in Palestine? Is this because it is a moslem holy day, like Ramadam, or have they run out of Jews to murder? Will they say it's all our fault?