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tjcass7880 on "Beijing Olympics: Opportunity or Mockery"

tjcass7880 — Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:10:47 +0000

Don't sweat the CCP's bull****. They wrote their own death certificate when they got the 2008 Olympics. See, every time a one-party state hosts the Olympics they're either out of business or circling the drain within a ten-year period, to wit: 1936 - Berlin Olympics 1946 - Germany occupied for a year already. 1980 - Moscow Olympics 1990 - Warsaw Pact and USSR dissolving 1984 - Sarajevo Winter Olympics 1994 - Yugoslav Civil War. So, Steve, don't let Bejing's retrograde politics fool you. Their oppression is just a big rear-guard retreat. Look for the big changes to come ca. 2020.

spursummer on "Beijing Olympics: Opportunity or Mockery"

spursummer — Sun, 18 Apr 2004 06:10:24 +0000

Hi Stephen If you insisting on mixing up politics with sports you can keep on your effort. For many times we have found out that splittism was backed by Western powers. From the Americans on Tibet to the Brits on Xinjiang. I'm from Beijing and I go to Uygur resteraunt every week for the roast lamb dishes. Many popular Tibetan silverware shops were opened in everywhere across China. All of these shows an amalgamation society. Tibetan and Uygur students enjoy much much more preference when it comes to education opportunities. Those people have exemptions on policies such as 'on child policy' which is strictly performed on Han Chinese. In my whole life I have never expericend even a single racial case on Tibetan people.But we do sometimes 'dislike' Uygur people, for 90% of the thieves in Beijing are Uygurs. I have experienced it on spot for many times, the first time when I wanted to remind the victim there was two Uygur people behind me told me:'mind your own business'. Everything has a reason but we never consider all Uygurs are thieves. One of the guys who shared uni accomodation with me was from Urumchi, the relationship between us is warm, we did sometimes joking on eachother's ethnic origin but there was no harm in it. My uncle is a retired cannoneer colonel who was located in Tibet, the army was not only there to 'repress' the tibetan people but also to help them when it comes to natural disasters etc. My advise is that please distinguish the communist gorvernment with the Chinese people when you write your essay because many people do not like the communism including me. Condemning the communism is popular now among Chinese people, but if you mix us up we will stand along with the CCP. We have many internet spies hired by US and japs provocating relationships between different ethnic groups, they would only get a reverse result! The olympic would be a great event but it is NOT that important, we would welcome anyone who want to know more about China but not those people who want to take it as a chance to humiliate the CCP gorvernment, it would only humiliate the Chinese people whether they intend it or not. Regards Yi

Beijing Olympics: Opportunity or Mockery,

Stephen Sullivan — Fri, 27 Feb 2004 02:26:09 +0000

Asia Times Online has been running a three part series on Tibet and in Part 1 they examined the effects of the forthcoming Beijing Olympics on human rights negotiations concerning Tibet but which would also hold true for the Uygur Quote from the article: "When astronaut Yang Liwei rocketed into space on China's first manned spaceflight, he carried with him the 2008 Beijing Olympic Games banner and China's national flag. Just like the spaceflight, China's award of the Olympic Games represents the coming of age for this growing world superpower. On this historic flight the Olympic Games logo was flown high. But the Chinese government fears that the banner will be dragged through the dirt by protestors when the games begin. 'Free Tibet' and human rights agitators are gearing up to protest, and the government does not want their glorious sports epic sullied by dissent at home or abroad. " unquote WE gave Beijing the Olympics and I wonder in doing so did we take into consideration one of the Olympic Ideals "Olympism is a philosophy of life, exalting and combining in a balanced whole the qualities of body, will and mind. Blending sport with culture and education, Olympism seeks to create a way of life based on the joy found in effort, the educational value of good example and respect for universal fundamental ethical principles." Olympic Charter, Fundamental Principles, 2." "Fundamental Ethical Principals" three words that do not describe China's stance on Human Rights. But the decision is made and provides very real opportunities to elicit change from Beijing. As the Asia Times article postulates China is fearful that it will lose face in front of the world if the Beijing Olympics is used to highlight their human rights violations. Now this can go two ways, either they will, over the next four and a bit years, attempt to address their shortcomings in a positive manner or they will employ extreme measures to make sure that the likes of the "Uygur and Tibetan Questions" do not raise (from China's perspective) their "ugly heads" and spoil the show. If it is the latter you can expect it to quite brutal. A possible scenario is as follows 1. One to two years out a series of mass detentions will occur of those people within China likely to attempt to cause any disruption. The timing will allow for the ensuing ruckus to die down. 2. Tibet and Xinjiang will be "Locked Down" with travel by Uygurs or Tibetans outside these areas forbidden in the lead up to and during the Olympics. 3. Tibet and Xinjiang will be "locked down" and travel to these areas by foreigners will be denied on the basis of a jumped up "terrorist threat" None of these actions are really in the spirit of the Olympics I am sure you will agree. It is time now, some four years out, that the message be given to the Chinese in no uncertain terms that actions of this type will not be countenanced. As well the "free" world must use this run up to the Beijing Olympics to press for change in Beijing policies towards it's ethnic minorities and religious groups. We have a marvelous opportunity here that should not be squandered. We can, if we do it right, make the Beijing Olympics a celebration of a Brave New World. If we don't we will expose the whole Olympic ideal as a mockery and a sham Reprinted from The Uygur letter http://uygurletter.blogspot.com Message was edited by: Stephen Sullivan