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 <title>James Secor on &quot;China goes global&quot;</title>
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 <description>Yes. Anti-China bias. Why is it threatening when China does it and not so when the US does it? The author needs to check his historical facts regarding global impact in prior centuries. Let me give him a hint: Silk Road. Then, Ming Dynasty &quot;China&quot;--finding it off the coasts of Africa and South America. Further. . .I wonder why it is Americans tend to remain blind to the fact that China&#039;s been dumping US dollars, albeit slowly, for Euros since 2004?

Gov&#039;t involvement/influence in Chinese business is horrifying? Really? Wow! Is the writer aware of what&#039;s been going on in the US?

Yes. Definitely another fine China bashing article. Good for opendemocracy. Keep them standards up, boys and girls!

And then. . .where&#039;s the &quot;democracy&quot; in all of this high finance investing? Where&#039;s the money going, outside of the pockets of the already rich? Why is the street population increasing in the States and organized into begging gangs in China? What the hell does economic growth mean?!

Isn&#039;t ODI the name of a stupid dog in a cartoon?</description>
 <pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 21:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>hari_1 on &quot;China goes global&quot;</title>
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 <description>The Western bias comes out at end of the article when dealing with PRCs ODI. Why?

FDI in China was necessary to jumpstart economic transformation. In comparison to India, China has been more liberal in allowing laissez faire capitalism to establish itself on the coastal regions. No one expected the rate of FDI expansion which the article rightly takes into account. But a lot of transfers where not technolgy transfers into Chinese enterprises. They remained in foreign control. This is reason why China has tried to find ways and means to add value domestically and beat the transfer price monopoly of FDIs. Having aggregated enormous trade surplus - mainly USD - what does it do with all that cashflow? And anyone following People&#039;s Daily will know the PRC has been thinking seriously about its dollar denominated bonds and other fixed value reserves which moves up or down with USD valuation.

My view is that Singapore lobbied and got China Development Bank to invest in what they&#039;d already decided to do in buying out ABN-AMRO with Barclays. With that loot (USD) in reserve, the decision must have been made in full consultation with counterparts in Singapore. In India, Singapore is doing the same with Indian infrastructure developments, including airlines industry.  Singapore Development Bank (SDB) from its inception has been an investment arm of the regime, and made conspicuous investments when China markets opened up. My point is very simply why pick on PRC involvement when decision-making on all such issues are made by technocrats (with obvious confidence of the regime). 

However, there is a growing mistrust in GWB/WH that state investment by China is not in its vital national interest. My take on this line of thinking is that China will palacate all and sundry  critics of its strategic ODIs.</description>
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 <title>China goes global, Kerry Brown </title>
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The epic process of China &amp;quot;going  global&amp;quot; has been underway for over a decade, but the events of late  July 2007 may well be its defining moment. The stake in Barclays bank  purchased by the China Development Bank - one of Beijing&amp;#39;s state-owned  &amp;quot;policy banks&amp;quot; - is significant in itself, but it also represents  a high-profile reversal of the dominant perception of China&amp;#39;s international  economic role.  
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Since China&amp;#39;s entry to the World  Trade Organisation in 2001, foreign investors have salivated at the  prospect of buying into a market with one of the highest savings-rates  on the planet ($1.7 trillion sits in Chinese personal savings accounts).  The Royal Bank of Scotland and the Bank of America (to name only two)  have taken stakes worth billions of dollars in Chinese banks. But even  a few months ago, the thought that China&amp;#39;s own banking institutions  might themselves undertake such bold action wasn&amp;#39;t envisaged.  
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Kerry Brown is an associate fellow  of &lt;a href=&quot;/His%20most%20recent%20book%20is%20Struggling%20Giant:%20China%20in%20the%2021st%20Century%20%28Anthem%20Press,%202007%29&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Chatham House&lt;/a&gt;, and director of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.strategic-china.com/en/index.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Strategic China Ltd&lt;/a&gt;. His most recent book is &lt;em&gt;Struggling Giant: China in the 21st Century &lt;/em&gt;(Anthem Press, 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
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Also by Kerry Brown on &lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;China&amp;#39;s top fifty: the China power  list&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chathamhouse.org.uk/research/asia/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;2 April 2007&lt;/a&gt;)   
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The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cdb.com.cn/english/Column.asp?ColumnId=96&quot;&gt;China Development Bank&amp;#39;s&lt;/a&gt; acquisition  of a minority share in Barclays was (as the &lt;em&gt;Financial Times&lt;/em&gt; observed)  well judged: modest enough not to appear &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ft.com/cms/s/b7eb196a-3a16-11dc-9d73-0000779fd2ac.html&quot;&gt;threatening&lt;/a&gt;, in tandem with  a similar stake from Singapore&amp;#39;s state investment arm, Temasek. At  the same time, other observers see the move as the latest in a worrying  trend whereby the Chinese state - in the form of seemingly innocuous  enterprises - is creeping ever &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2007/08/02/ccbg102.xml&quot;&gt;deeper&lt;/a&gt; into western financial and economic  institutions.   
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&lt;strong&gt;Go west, young man&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The economic story about China told  abroad over the past decade and more has been about the phenomenal amount  of foreign direct investment (FDI) flowing into the country. As of  2007, this stands at over $700 billion in stockholdings. True, about  40% of that derives from the Hong Kong special administration region  (SAR) or the British Virgin Islands, and therefore is very likely to  originate in China. Yet even with this qualification, China&amp;#39;s ability  to attract FDI has been impressive; since 1992 it has regularly featured  as one of the top three FDI destinations.   
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But has this FDI really served its  main purpose? For several years, the Chinese government has been signalling  that all the money washing &lt;a href=&quot;http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90778/6229627.html&quot;&gt;into China&lt;/a&gt; has not brought the technical  partnerships and know-how that were originally expected. 88% of China&amp;#39;s  hi-tech exports in 2006 were still made by foreign-investment enterprises,  which operated largely by importing partly finished goods, using cheap  labour to process them, and then re-exporting. China aspires to be a  &amp;quot;knowledge economy&amp;quot;, but in fundamental ways its current &lt;a href=&quot;http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/International__Business/Foreign_direct_investment_in_China_up_12_in_first_half/articleshow/2199329.cms&quot;&gt;FDI regime&lt;/a&gt;  has done little to help indigenous Chinese companies expand and develop.  Chinese enterprises contain few global leaders, perform badly in innovation,  and score low on brand recognition. The Chinese government knows that  somehow that model has to change.   
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A big part of this &amp;quot;somehow&amp;quot; is  the government&amp;#39;s encouragement of Chinese companies - which has been  expressed since the mid-1990s - to &amp;quot;go out&amp;quot;. This is unprecedented  in Chinese terms, for China has never in history been an exporter of  capital. Even a century ago, it was British and European countries that  invested in China (mostly through Shanghai, and mostly in the energy  and raw-materials sector). China did send out people and goods in past  centuries, but it didn&amp;#39;t plug into the global economy that then existed.  &lt;br /&gt;
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That remained the case after the revolution  in 1949 and throughout the early years of the People&amp;#39;s Republic. Only  in the 1980s, after the reform process inaugurated by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/features/aoc/aoc.deng.html&quot;&gt;Deng Xiaoping&lt;/a&gt;  got underway and the Chinese economy opened up, did China start to invest  in mining and raw materials (albeit in tiny amounts).   &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;strong&gt;The new model&lt;/strong&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Today, things are moving at speed. China  is the largest holder of &lt;a href=&quot;http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/14/100024842/index.htm&quot;&gt;foreign-currency reserves&lt;/a&gt; on the planet (it  overtook Japan in early 2006); 70% of its $1.2 trillion is in US dollars,  $400 billion of it committed to US treasury bonds. The rest lies dormant,  attracting low rates of interest and subject to currency fluctuations.  In 2007, China has set up an investment fund, with an initial $200 billion  that it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independent.ie/business/the-great-wall-1049322.html&quot;&gt;seeks to spend&lt;/a&gt; around the world. So far, it has committed $60  billion abroad, most of it in Latin America and Asia, with increasing  amounts in &lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-africa_democracy/china_africa_4056.jsp&quot;&gt;Africa&lt;/a&gt;. But gradually, Chinese companies are starting to  have an impact, through mergers and acquisitions, in Europe and the  United States too. Chinese investment might still constitute less than  1% of the global stock, but that can only go one way - up!  &lt;br /&gt;
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Chinese overseas direct investment  (ODI), however, faces the same problem as foreign direct investment  into China: the fact that it is a highly politicised subject. FDI in  China may have helped create a &amp;quot;non-state&amp;quot; sector, but - as many  commentators have pointed out - the line where the state ends and the  non-state begins in China can never quite be defined. Foreign investments  in China have enjoyed high political status, but the very fact of dealing  with the government and the Chinese Communist Party in China&amp;#39;s   uniquely politicised environment can complicate or undermine a &amp;quot;purely&amp;quot;  business relationship.  
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This applies to Chinese ODI also. The  regulations may have changed to allow Chinese enterprises to search  opportunities abroad without government sanction, but it remains the  case that any &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ft.com/cms/s/6894f9ec-3b26-11dc-8f9e-0000779fd2ac.html&quot;&gt;investment&lt;/a&gt; of significance (and at the moment, most Chinese  investments are significant) will need government support. Moreover,  many of the corporations making the biggest impact overseas - like the  China Development Bank, or the Chinese energy companies that are currently  making waves in Africa and the middle east - have direct &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2673cd38-86d4-11db-9ad5-0000779e2340,dwp_uuid=21056a60-8539-11db-b12c-0000779e2340.html&quot;&gt;connections&lt;/a&gt;  to the government.   
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A number of cases illustrate this political  problem. The China National Offshore Oil Company (CNOOC) effort to buy  the United States energy giant Unocal in 2005 was &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chathamhouse.org.uk/research/asia/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;blocked&lt;/a&gt;  because the US was unwilling to accept a bid with what looked like a  large amount of Chinese government money in a key strategic industry.  The purchase by the Chinese TV manufacturer of Thomsons in France has  proved disastrous, at least in the European market where the management  styles of the two companies seemed to come from different planets. Chinese  &amp;quot;investment&amp;quot; in MG Rover in Britain and ThyssenKrupp in Germany  involved - in public perception at least - a wholesale transfer of assets  back to China with little contribution to the local economy to balance  it.  
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The Chinese have appeared to be transmitting  the message that the shift towards ODI is a strategy to compensate for  the failure of FDI to provide them with the technical expertise they  craved. This, and the fact that the one-party, non-democratic Chinese  state lies behind it, has not been exactly reassuring to China&amp;#39;s prospective  commercial partners overseas. 
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&lt;strong&gt;The great learning&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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But this is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://atlantis.terrassl.net/anthempress.com/product_info.php?cPath=121&amp;amp;products_id=291&amp;amp;osCsid=fmevlkd7usl8219rvt8lqqvuf7&quot;&gt;constantly changing &lt;/a&gt;as  well as complicated story. Other investments, like Lenova into IBM&amp;#39;s  PC division in the US, and Huawei&amp;#39;s into Europe, seem to be both working  and adding value. The precedent for the Barclays venture - the stake  taken by China in the US equity fund Blackstone - was regraded by informed  analysts (notwithstanding public &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/08/02/opinion/backlash.php&quot;&gt;criticism&lt;/a&gt; in China itself) as strategic and smart. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chathamhouse.org.uk/research/asia/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Friedrich Wu&lt;/a&gt;,  an expert on Chinese ODI based in Singapore, argues that Chinese money  invested in low-performing factories in Europe and the US can work to  the advantage of both sides. Most significant, Chinese enterprises which  go abroad tend to absorb some tough, hard lessons about the important  of corporate governance and company responsibility, which are fed back  to China itself - thus assisting China in its great, long-term strategy  of becoming a globally-oriented economy.   
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The Chinese are learning quickly. In many  ways, they have to. The World Bank has made clear that China&amp;#39;s economic  development since the mid-1980s has been faster, and vaster, than in  any previous case - including of Japan after 1945. China&amp;#39;s development  in ODI is set to follow the same pattern. Now it has the responsibility  of explaining to the outside world why its enterprises are not a threat  - and why people outside China should be sanguine about the role of  the Chinese state in them. That will need imagination as well as hard  work. But there is no turning back: the Chinese buy-up is underway,  and the world needs to be prepared.  
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