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 <description>&lt;p&gt;
Over the past three years,
the accidents of academic travel and a certain curiosity about  historical sites have taken me to most, if
not all, of the places in the western world where &lt;em&gt;jihadi&lt;/em&gt; terrorism has left its mark: 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
* New York, even as most
inhabitants of the city seem to be exhibiting &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/conflict-us911/debate.jsp&quot;&gt;9/11&lt;/a&gt; fatigue&amp;quot;,  the site of the World Trade Center south of
Chambers Street is now being reworked to construct a monumental Freedom Tower
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
* Madrid, where the attacks
of &lt;a href=&quot;/conflict-madridprevention/debate.jsp&quot;&gt;11 March 2004&lt;/a&gt; now have a permanent memorial,
even if the four-storey apartment block in the Calle Carmen Martín Gaite, in
the restful Madrid suburb of Leganès, has been replaced in such a way as to
erase the memory of those who later &lt;a href=&quot;http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/04/04/spain.bombings/&quot;&gt;blew
themselves up&lt;/a&gt;
there, on 3 April 2004
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Fred Halliday&amp;#39;s&lt;/strong&gt; &amp;quot;global politics&amp;quot; column on &lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&lt;/strong&gt; surveys the national
histories, geopolitical currents, and dominant ideas across the world.The
recent articles include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/node/4228&quot;&gt;A 2007 warning: the twelve worst ideas in the world&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;(8 January 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/node/4334&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Sunni, Shi&amp;#39;a &lt;/em&gt;and the
&amp;quot;Trotskyists of Islam&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;(9
February 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://bt.yahoo.com/&quot;&gt;Al-Jazeera: the matchbox that
roared&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;(25 March
2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/node/4591&quot;&gt;The Malvinas and Afghanistan:
unburied ghosts&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;(4 May
2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/globalization/political_impasse_4671.jsp&quot;&gt;Palestinians and Israelis: a
political impasse&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;(4 June 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/globalisation/global_politics/crisis_middle_east_2003&quot;&gt;Crises of the middle east: 1914,
1967, 2003&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (15 June
2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/conflicts/middle_east/lebanon_gaza_iraq_three_crises&quot;&gt;Lebanon, Gaza, and Iraq: three
crises&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (22 June 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/gloablisation/global_politics/yemen_murder_arabia_felix&quot;&gt;Yemen: murder in Arabia Felix&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (13 July 2007) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/globalisation/global_village/eta_vitoria&quot;&gt;Eternal Euzkadi, enduring ETA&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
(3 August 2007) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/globalisation/global_politics/cyprus_stalemate&quot;&gt;Cyprus&amp;#39;s risky stalemate&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (26 August 2007)&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
* Buenos Aires, where on 18
July 1994 eighty-six people died in the explosion at the Jewish cultural centre
(Amia), an &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jamestown.org/terrorism/news/article.php?articleid=2369844&quot;&gt;action&lt;/a&gt; that is ascribed to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6612951.stm&quot;&gt;Iranian
government&lt;/a&gt;
or to a branch of Hizbollah or of Islamic Jihad based in Argentina, but which
has many, as yet unclarified, dimensions; the building itself has been restored
with fortress-like appearance and the names of those who died are listed at
street level outside. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
* London, where I have only
to look out of the window of my flat in &lt;a href=&quot;/conflict-terrorism/gandhi_2700.jsp&quot;&gt;Tavistock
Square&lt;/a&gt; to
see the small plaque commemorating the thirteen people who were killed on an
everyday, number 30, two-decker red bus - outside the headquarters of the
British Medical Association - on &lt;a href=&quot;/node/2655&quot;&gt;7 July 2005&lt;/a&gt;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
By contrast, Linnaeus Street in a
suburb of Amsterdam bears no memorial of the
event that occurred there on the morning of 2 November 2004 and which so
shocked the inhabitants of the Netherlands.
It was here, on a nondescript street flanked on one side by the building of the
local municipality, on the other by food shops and chemists, that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theovangogh.nl/&quot;&gt;Theo van Gogh&lt;/a&gt; was killed by his assailant, Mohammad Bouyeri. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;One day in November&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
My companion in a visit to
this part of Amsterdam is the Turkish-Dutch writer &lt;a href=&quot;http://bt.yahoo.com/&quot;&gt;Ahmet Olgun&lt;/a&gt;, correspondent for the daily paper &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nrc.nl/&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;NRC
Handelsblad&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, and himself co-author (with Jutta Chorus) of an in-depth
investigative book on the event, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uitgeverijcontact.nl/index.php?id=166&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;In
Gods Naam&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
(Uitgeverej Contact, 2005). He explains to me what happened. Van Gogh normally
cycled to work in the morning along this street. At the end is the railway
bridge where Bouyeri waited for van Gogh. The first of five shots were fired on
the side of the street outside the municipality building, where an employee
filmed the event on his mobile. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ifex.org/20fr/content/view/full/62414/&quot;&gt;Van Gogh&lt;/a&gt; then staggered across the
street and was then killed. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Bouyeri then tried to cut
his throat in sacrificial gesture, but only half succeeded, and then pinned on
his chest a letter denouncing the enemies of Islam in Holland. The assailant subsequently fled to
the nearby Oosterpark (&amp;quot;eastern park&amp;quot;) where he was wounded and captured by the
police. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
To find a memorial to van
Gogh, Ahmet Olgun and I have to go to the Oosterpark itself, now rich in late
summer greenery and with a first hint of autumn on the leaves. Here stands a
monument to van Gogh by the sculptor &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jeroenhenneman.nl/&quot;&gt;Jeroen Henneman&lt;/a&gt;, a four-and-a-half metre high construction of wavy
steel lines: there is no mention of van Gogh himself on the statue, or accompanying
plaque, which is named simply &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rijksmuseum.nl/pers/aanwinsten/henneman?lang=nl&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Die Schreeuw&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (&amp;quot;The Cry&amp;quot;), yet his profile is visible in the
lines of the monument. The title is perhaps an allusion to the painting of
alarm and pain, by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.munch.museum.no/content.aspx?id=15&quot;&gt;Edvard Munch&lt;/a&gt;, but also a reference to
van Gogh&amp;#39;s association with the cause of free speech. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
There was some public
controversy about whether to put up a monument at all: Dutch friends are mildly
surprised the statue has lasted as long as it has. The day before I visit, it
was daubed with a pro-al-Qaida slogan, but by the time I get there next morning
this has been cleaned away.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
There remains much that is
unclear and hence unsettling in the killing of Theo van Gogh and in the relation
of this event, analysed for English readers by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ianburuma.com/&quot;&gt;Ian Buruma&lt;/a&gt; in his fine book &lt;a href=&quot;http://us.penguingroup.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9781594201080,00.html&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Murder in Amsterdam&lt;/em&gt;:&lt;em&gt; The
Death of Theo van Gogh and the Limits of Tolerance&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;. Buruma
himself is of Dutch-English parentage and grew up in the Netherlands,
before leaving in the mid-1970s in part to escape from the cloying conformity
of much of its intellectual and political life. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Despite intense police and
journalistic investigation, it is not clear how far Mohammed Bouyeri acted on
his own, how far he was part of an organised clandestine group, known to its
Arab members as The Lions of Islam and to the Dutch police as The Hofstad Group
(&amp;quot;Hofstad&amp;quot; or  - capital city being a
conventional name for The Hague, the city where the group was based - that The
Hague is the seat of government but not the capital of Holland, which is Amsterdam,
is another, here irrelevant, complication.) Bouyeri himself was in many ways a
loner, a second generation of Moroccan descent, whose Arabic was weak and who
had become intensely &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/07/13/wbouy13.xml&quot;&gt;politicised&lt;/a&gt; by watching videos on the
recent wars between Muslim fighters and western forces. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Theo the artist-provocateur&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Van Gogh, a remote
descendant of the famous painter, was known through his TV programme and a set
of controversial films; he was not an angel or ideal hero, but at times
boorish, a provocateur who had made a name for himself as an enthusiastic
exponent of the Dutch practice of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.erikweijers.nl/pages/translations/polemic/theo-van-goghs-polemic-prose.php&quot;&gt;verbal insult&lt;/a&gt; and name-calling (&lt;em&gt;scheldkritikien&lt;/em&gt; or &amp;quot;abusive criticism&amp;quot;).
That he frequently insulted Muslims and their prophet, calling the former &lt;em&gt;geiteneuker (&amp;quot;&lt;/em&gt;goat-fuckers&amp;quot;), did not
stop him from also insulting Jews and many others. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
To compare him, as some
Dutch supporters do, to &lt;a href=&quot;/author/Salman_Rushdie.jsp&quot;&gt;Salman Rushdie&lt;/a&gt; is ridiculous - Rushdie
satirised the early history of Islam, but never propagated racist insults
against Muslims as living people. (Incidentally, and almost certainly unknown
to van Gogh, the Dutch obscenity he used, &lt;em&gt;neuken&lt;/em&gt;,
is by origin Arabic, indeed to be found in the Qur&amp;#39;an, where it is the normal
term for marital relations: French, English and Spanish all have the same slang
word  - &lt;em&gt;niquer&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;nooky&lt;/em&gt;, &lt;em&gt;noqui-noqui&lt;/em&gt; - transmitted in the Dutch
case via contact with Arab traders in South Africa, as is the all-purpose
racist term of abuse &lt;em&gt;kaffir&lt;/em&gt;, from the
Muslim term for an &amp;quot;infidel&amp;quot;, in the others via colonial contact with north
Africa).
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Fred Halliday&lt;/strong&gt; is professor of international relations at
the LSE, and visiting professor at the Barcelona Institute of International
Studies (IBEI). His many books include &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.palgrave-usa.com/catalog/product.aspx?isbn=1860648681&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Islam
and the Myth of Confrontation&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
(IB Tauris, 2003), &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.saqibooks.com/saqi/display.asp?K=9780863565298&amp;amp;sf=KEYWORD&amp;amp;sort=sort_title&amp;amp;st1=halliday&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0&amp;amp;m=1&amp;amp;dc=11&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;100
Myths About the Middle East&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
(Saqi, 2005), and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cambridge.org/uk/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=0521597412&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The
Middle East in Intern&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;a&lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;tional Relations: Power,
Politics and Ideology&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;(Cambridge
University Press, 2005)  &lt;/span&gt;On any conventional
criteria, van Gogh should certainly have faced legal sanction for some of what
he did. But he did not deserve his fate. Some weeks before he was killed he had
shown, on an small audience TV channel, the film &lt;em&gt;Submission&lt;/em&gt; a twelve-minute denunciation of Qur&amp;#39;anic and other Islamic
views on women, the verses projected over the body of a naked woman. However,
since the film was only shown in October 2004, and there is evidence that the
plan to kill him was first laid in July, &lt;em&gt;Submission&lt;/em&gt;
may not have played a part in his death. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The person the film most
certainly affected is the Somali exile, later Dutch MP, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aei.org/scholars/filter.all,scholarID.117/scholar.asp&quot;&gt;Ayaan Hirsi
Ali&lt;/a&gt;, van
Gogh&amp;#39;s collaborator on the film; she had to have police protection and then
left for the United States amid a dispute over her right to stay in Holland; on
1 October 2007 she is reported as having &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/10/01/europe/EU-GEN-Netherlands-Hirsi-Ali.php&quot;&gt;returned&lt;/a&gt; to live in the Netherlands
after the Dutch government refused to pay for the cost of her protection. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The Dutch trauma&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This series of events - the death of van Gogh, the
threats against and controversies surrounding &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.radionetherlands.nl/currentaffairs/nl071001&quot;&gt;Ayaan Hirsi Ali&lt;/a&gt;, and the physical
assault on others, notably an Iranian-origin secularist writer and local
councillor for the Dutch Labour Party, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ehsanjami.pvda.nl/&quot;&gt;Ehsan Jami&lt;/a&gt; - have provoked a major, often acrimonious and as
yet far from resolved debate in Dutch politics. Jami´s book, &lt;em&gt;The Right to be an Ex-Muslim&lt;/em&gt;, a short
and reasonable &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,2779524,00.html&quot;&gt;plea&lt;/a&gt; for freedom of thought and
belief, is on prominent display in Dutch bookshops, as are the &lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-village/infidel_kilday_4408.jsp&quot;&gt;writings&lt;/a&gt; of Ayaan Hirsi Ali.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Some of the causes of this
acrimony lie in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aup.nl/do.php?a=show_visitor_book&amp;amp;isbn=9789053564981&quot;&gt;longer-term&lt;/a&gt; trends in Dutch life: the
authority of the older and more moderate political leaders, of both the Labour
and Liberal Parties, has eroded in recent years as senior figures have retired
and as it becomes evident that they have in some measure lost touch with their
constituencies. At the same time, as Buruma relates in his book and as I could
observe when working in Amsterdam for several years on and off in the 1970s,
there is a particular, above average, defensiveness in Dutch political life,
perhaps strengthened by the loss of empire in the late 1940s, also reflecting
enduring unease about the years of Nazi occupation in the second world war. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
More recently, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.srebrenica.nl/en/&quot;&gt;scandal of Srebrenica&lt;/a&gt;, when in 1995 a group of Dutch soldiers
assigned to the United Nations allowed the Serbs to &lt;a href=&quot;/conflict-yugoslavia/srebrenica_2651.jsp&quot;&gt;massacre&lt;/a&gt; almost 8,000 Bosnians in
a town they, the Dutch, were supposed to be protecting, also left its mark. It
was probably irrelevant on the day but the fact that those so murdered were all
Bosniaks (Bosnian Muslims) is, in retrospect, a further cause of unease.  No one draws a direct link between the impact
and shame of Srebrenica and the touchy, often aggressive, character of current
debate on Islam, but some mild psychoanalytic speculation may here be in
order.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
To this long-run loss of
status and confidence is added the impact of immigration and the presence in
large Dutch cities of Muslim communities that now number upwards of a third of
the urban population. Stories abound of attacks on - unveiled - Dutch women by
second-generation immigrants and, on the other side, of continuous racist
taunting by white youth. If tension between indigenous Dutch society and the
immigrants from Morocco and Turkey had been building up during the 1990s, two
events in the early 2000s brought matters more openly, and acridly, into the
open: the 9/11 attacks in the US had an important impact on Dutch political
life, perhaps more than on any other western European society, and the media
devoted saturation coverage to them. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
It was, however, the
assassination in May 2002 of the populist politician &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/05/07/wfort07.xml&quot;&gt;Pim Fortuyn&lt;/a&gt;, himself an outspoken
critic of Muslim culture and belief, that brought matters to the boil. Fortuyn
was in fact killed by a Dutch assassin, Volker van der Graaf, an angry
animal-rights fanatic who objected to Fortuyn&amp;#39;s display of fur coats, but
Fortuyn&amp;#39;s death, the first political assassination in Dutch life since 1584,
legitimated and augmented his anti-Muslim rhetoric. The rise of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pimfortuyn.com/asp/default.asp?t=show&amp;amp;var=793&amp;amp;tk=1&quot;&gt;Fortuyn&lt;/a&gt;, a shrewd and vocal critic
of established views in Dutch political life, and of the &lt;em&gt;regenten&lt;/em&gt;, the somewhat complacent Dutch political elite, was itself
a reflection of the loss of authority of the traditional parties: that his
party, Fortuyn&amp;#39;s List, has fallen apart since his death may not be surprising,
but some of the more angry nationalist and anti-Muslim rhetoric has been taken
up by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.geertwilders.nl/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;task=blogsection&amp;amp;id=4&amp;amp;Itemid=101&quot;&gt;Geert Wilders&lt;/a&gt;, leading of the minority
Freedom Party, who has repeatedly called for the banning of the Qur&amp;#39;an, as a
contemporary equivalent of &lt;em&gt;Mein Kampf&lt;/em&gt;.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The statesman&amp;#39;s case&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
It is against this
background, that I am invited to public debate in Amsterdam
on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.debalie.nl/artikel.jsp?siteid=&amp;amp;articleid=180690&quot;&gt;18 September
2007&lt;/a&gt; with
one of Holland&amp;#39;s
most established and venerated politicians, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fritsbolkestein.com/index.htm&quot;&gt;Frits Bolkestein&lt;/a&gt;. At 74, the former
minister, European Union &lt;a href=&quot;http://ec.europa.eu/archives/commission_1999_2004/bolkestein/curriculum_en.htm&quot;&gt;commissioner&lt;/a&gt; and academic cuts a
dignified silver-haired figure in his suit and tie, amidst the rather more
informally attired audience of the central Amsterdam cultural centre &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.debalie.nl/&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;De Balie&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (&lt;em&gt;The Tribune&lt;/em&gt;). 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Bolkestein is a senior
figure in the main right-of-centre party, the Liberals (or &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.vvd.nl/&quot;&gt;VVD&lt;/a&gt;); although formally out of a senior position, he has been actively involved
in recent disputes within the party (one of which has led to the expulsion from
the VVD&amp;#39;s parliamentary section of the outspoken &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.expatica.com/actual/article.asp?subchannel_id=1&amp;amp;story_id=44475&quot;&gt;Rita Verdonk&lt;/a&gt;, a former minister of the
interior who favours a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article577915.ece&quot;&gt;tougher&lt;/a&gt; line on immigrants). Although
Bolkestein made his mark by being one of the first to question the Dutch model
of multiculturalism, he is believed to have supported the action against
Verdonk.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The event is gently but
firmly chaired by our host (and my fellow &lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy
&lt;/strong&gt;author) &lt;a href=&quot;/author/Markha_Valenta.jsp&quot;&gt;Markha Valenta&lt;/a&gt;, an American journalist who
has lived in Holland
for eight years and who evidently impresses Bolkestein with her fluent Dutch. It
is a Dutch tradition to offer broad guidelines to speakers, and the organisers
of &lt;em&gt;De Balie&lt;/em&gt; are true to form in
offering suggestions for the fifteen minutes we each have. It is the kind of
rubric that drives any normal speaker mad: is Islam compatible with democracy,
what should be America&amp;#39;s role in the world, how can we get from unilateral to
multilateral politics, should Europe and the US work with Hizbollah and Hamas,
how to curb illegal American intelligence operations in Europe, how to network with
democratic Islamists. Everything, it would seem, except the hardiest nut in
Dutch politics, the Friesian question.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
With characteristic
courtesy, Bolkestein invites me to speak first but I feel it is better for him,
who knows the Dutch audience, to start. And so, in terms mellow, considered but
with more than a hint of determination, he lays out what can be taken to be the
case for a moderate Dutch conservatism on some of these issues.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&lt;/strong&gt; writers explore the Netherlands&amp;#39; - and
Europe&amp;#39;s - argument about Islam, secularism and democracy:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tjebbe van Tijen, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-newright/article_382.jsp&quot;&gt;The sorrow of
the Netherlands&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (22 May 2002)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Dienke Hondius, &amp;quot;‘&lt;a href=&quot;/people-migrationeurope/article_1616.jsp&quot;&gt;Become like
us&amp;#39;: the Dutch and racism&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (4 December 2003) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Theo Veenkamp, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/arts-multiculturalism/article_2239.jsp&quot;&gt;After tolerance&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (24 November 2004) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
KA Dilday, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-village/infidel_kilday_4408.jsp&quot;&gt;Sister in
spirit: Ayaan Hirsi Ali&amp;#39;s Infidel&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (6 March 2007)&lt;/span&gt;Bolkestein reiterates his
consistent opposition to the Iraq
war of 2003. On Islamist terrorism: this is not a product of western policies,
but of &amp;quot;resentment&amp;quot;, a term he repeats several times, going back to the loss of
&lt;a href=&quot;http://yalepress.yale.edu/yupbooks/book.asp?isbn=0300106033&quot;&gt;Islamic imperial power&lt;/a&gt; in past centuries. The
Arab-Israeli question should be solved by resettling the Palestinians in Arab
countries, as Europe did with 11.5 million
refugees from eastern Europe after 1945. To blame the west for the economic and
social problems of the middle east is fallacious. Citing recent reports by the &lt;a href=&quot;http://content.undp.org/go/newsroom/december-2006/ahdr-launch-20061206.en&quot;&gt;United Nations
Development Programme&lt;/a&gt; (UNDP), he argues that it is up to the Arab states and Iran themselves
to sort out their problems and to stop blaming others. As for disaffected
second-generation Muslims in Holland
and other countries of western Europe, the best thing they can do to help
themselves is get a good secondary-school education and find employment.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
On the implications of Islam
and the middle east for Dutch society, Frits Bolkestein has a clear, sharp and
most evidently well-polished set of views. Multiculturalism, a variety of
practices, laws and values is acceptable on secondary issues, but not on
primary ones: Dutch society cannot and should not accept forced marriage,
honour killings, the assassination of apostates, stoning of adulterers.
Moreover, &amp;quot;not all Muslims are well-meaning&amp;quot; and some have &amp;quot;ugly habits&amp;quot;. Some
want to create a new international Islamic state and impose &lt;em&gt;sharia&lt;/em&gt; law on Europe.
In conclusion, he returns to his overarching view of the different historical
trajectories of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.columbia.edu/cu/cup/catalog/data/023112/0231127960.HTM&quot;&gt;Islam and
Christianity&lt;/a&gt;:
the latter began as a religion of the poor and oppressed and only later came to
exercise state power; Islam, on the other hand, enjoyed power in its early centuries,
in Baghdad and al-Andalus, and has felt resentment at the loss of this power in
subsequent centuries.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The long view&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Bolkestein takes his seat.
Markha Valenta invites me to approach the rostrum. There is much I had prepared
to say, and much more had occurred to me in response to Bolkestein. But there
are constraints: I do not want to be heard, particularly with the distortions
of any second-hand oral report, as expressing some partisan and inevitably
pigeon-holed alignment with the set-piece arguments, and derogations, of Dutch
public debate. These days I sometimes seek to lend putative authority to what I
say by pointing out that I am now a senior citizen, a professor of over two
decades&amp;#39; standing in a major university, and so on: but such tropes are not
going to cut any ice with a man a decade older, and with a visage far more
venerable, than mine. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As for alluding to the fact
that I have now four decades of experience working on and analysing the middle
east, this will have no effect on Fritz Bolkestein, who, as he is keen to point
out, derives his arguments from reading, and having personally talked with,
such leading experts on the middle east as professors &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.princeton.edu/%7Enes/faculty_lewis.html&quot;&gt;Bernard Lewis&lt;/a&gt; and the late &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dangoor.com/74006.html&quot;&gt;Elie Kedourie&lt;/a&gt;.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
So I begin with two obvious,
but heartfelt, observations. First, the issues being discussed in this De Balie
debate, and more generally in Dutch public life over recent years, are of much
broader import and context: the questions of immigration, secularism,
multiculturalism, gender that the Dutch are talking about are also being
debated in all other major countries of western Europe. No European Union
country has a monopoly on these questions. What is urgently needed, for reasons
of common political challenge and of self-critical debate, is to break out of
the national confines and terms of each argument and discuss the issues at a
European level. The French have no monopoly on the question of secularism, the
British on that of free speech, the Dutch on those of blasphemy and apostasy. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Second, the questions Frits
Bolkestein and I are debating in Amsterdam,
and which in a Dutch context are framed by events of the past five years, have
a much longer and wider history. Holland and some other European countries have
in recent years witnessed generic denunciations of &amp;quot;Islam&amp;quot; or Islamic treatment
of women, or whatever, sometimes by supposedly ou-spoken western writers (for
example the late &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/09/15/news/obits.php&quot;&gt;Oriana Fallaci&lt;/a&gt; [in Italy], &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=%252Fnews%252F2002%252F09%252F18%252Fwislam18.xml&quot;&gt;Michel Houellebecq&lt;/a&gt; [in France], &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esferalibros.com/libros/librodetalle.html?libroISBN=8497341627&quot;&gt;César Vidal&lt;/a&gt; [in Spain], &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gov.harvard.edu/faculty/shuntington/&quot;&gt;Samuel Huntington&lt;/a&gt; [in the United States], and
sometimes by people who are by origin Muslims by family or culture. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
But these critics, whose
sincerity is not in question, run the risk of being banal and theatrical until
and unless they recognise that they are far from being the first to raise these
question: for decades there have been people in the Muslim world itself - in
Egypt and Turkey, Pakistan, Algeria and Iran - who have, and often at great risk
to themselves, debated issues of authoritarianism, violence, dogmatism,
secularism. In an audience with many faces from the radical Amsterdam of decades ago, I recall that the
first time I spoke at De Balie was in 1981, at a meeting with exiled Iranian
speakers, denouncing the repression of the left and secular forces in the
Islamic Republic of Iran.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
On the specific points
raised by Frits Bolkestein, I reply to a select number; as I point out, I am
not a politician nor a clergyman, and so do not have to express an opinion on
every topic. My own understanding of the origins of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cambridge.org/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=0521791405&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;jihadi terrorism&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is very different from that of Frits
Bolkestein; it is, in the terminology of our, rather good, academic debates on
the matter, &amp;quot;modernist&amp;quot; as opposed to &amp;quot;primordial&amp;quot;. I consider the remote past
of little or not relevance to understanding contemporary terrorism; rather we
must look at the contemporary political and regional context, in particular the
rise of militant &lt;em&gt;Sunni&lt;/em&gt; movement in
the 1980s, in opposition to failed secular states and, in some cases such as Afghanistan,
with the direct support of the west. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
On Palestine I &lt;a href=&quot;/globalization/political_impasse_4671.jsp&quot;&gt;repeat&lt;/a&gt; what I have said for over
thirty years: that there are two peoples, each of which is entitled, and in
broadly equal share, to a state (it occurs to me later that to tell the
Palestinians to merge with neighbouring Arab states is a bit like telling the
now very dissatisfied &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/18/wbelgium118.xml&quot;&gt;Flemish-speakers&lt;/a&gt; in Belgium to go and live
in Holland).  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
On the UNDP reports, with
which on many issues I am in sympathy, I merely point out that the claim that
the Arab world hardly translates any books is in error: the point is that, not
being signatories to international copyright conventions, they do not ask
permission for, or officially register, most of the translations they carry
out. On &amp;quot;ugly habits&amp;quot;, I entirely agree, but point out that Europe too has, in
the past &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.randomhouse.ca/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780679757047&quot;&gt;century&lt;/a&gt;, had ugly, much uglier
indeed, habits - visiting colonial violence and invasion on many parts of the
middle east, and subjecting its own peoples (not least the Dutch) to invasion,
massacre, racism and war.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The Turkish nerve-end&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Our speeches and short
replies concluded, Bolkestein and I face the audience&amp;#39;s questions, under
Valenta&amp;#39;s invigilation. One questioner asks how far we agree with the gendered
analysis of Islamist violence, that it is a result of a crisis of patriarchal
power among middle-eastern males; a questioner from Macedonia asks why the west
failed to note and counteract the rise of Islamism in the Balkans, especially
in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bergpublishers.com/us/book_page.asp?BKTitle=Al-Qaida%27s%2520Jihad%2520in%2520Europe&quot;&gt;Bosnia&lt;/a&gt;, during the 1990s; another
relates the rise of Islamism in the middle east to the tensions produced by
urbanisation; another seeks to include the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.us.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subject/ReligionTheology/?ci=0192806068&amp;amp;view=usa&quot;&gt;fundamentalism&lt;/a&gt; of Evangelical Christians
in the US, and of George W Bush in particular, in our denunciations. Another
questioner asks Fritz Bolkestein why he did not sign a letter in support of the
secular writer and politician &lt;a href=&quot;http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=3607887&amp;amp;page=1&quot;&gt;Ehsan Jami&lt;/a&gt;, who has since been beaten
up: &amp;quot;Perhaps I now will&amp;quot;, he replies.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Somehow the debate and
questioning come closer to an issue hitherto rather marginal, but latent, in
our meeting, that of Turkey.
I state, as robustly as I can, that Europe has a modest, but definite, role to
play in regard to the middle east, in Darfur, Afghanistan, Palestine and, above
all, in regard to Turkey. In this context I greatly regret the &lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-europe_constitution/holland_2567.jsp&quot;&gt;Dutch
rejection&lt;/a&gt;
of the EU constitution in June 2005 which, conjoined with the &lt;a href=&quot;/node/2557&quot;&gt;French &amp;quot;no&amp;quot; vote&lt;/a&gt; three days earlier, has
served to freeze and almost certainly kill off Turkey&amp;#39;s application to join the
EU. With this Fritz Bolkestein is not happy: Turkey
is not &lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-turkey/debate.jsp&quot;&gt;part of Europe&lt;/a&gt; and if people in the middle
east are going to blame colonialism and occupation for their woes, why not
start with the Turks, who were the worst of all? 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Some of the audience are
bemused, but the lady from Macedonia
jumps up to attest to the terrible five centuries her country suffered under
Turkish rule. I  begin to suggest that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.orionbooks.co.uk/MP-24421/The-Balkans.htm&quot;&gt;Balkan&lt;/a&gt; nationalists tend to
complain far too much about Turkish rule, but realise this may not get us very
far. I stop myself from going into pro-Ottoman mode (the &amp;quot;sick man of Europe&amp;quot;
turned out to be Germany, not
Turkey).
I rest with the observation that of all the major states of western Europe with
a colonial past the Dutch are the only ones who avoided the middle east
entirely, and, instead, sailed around the Cape of Good
Hope and on to the east Indies. (That their record in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cambridge.org/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=9780521542623&amp;amp;ss=exc&quot;&gt;Indonesia&lt;/a&gt; up to 1949, and the ideological
legacy of their three centuries in South Africa, leave much to be desired, and
contain not a little of what one may term the &amp;quot;ugly&amp;quot;, I leave for another
occasion).  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Amsterdam&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt; and Europe&amp;#39;s argument&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
After a couple of brandies,
and a chat with colleagues from my old employers and colleagues based in
Amsterdam, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tni.org/&quot;&gt;Transnational Institute&lt;/a&gt;, I head for home, dodging
the trams and, as always in Amsterdam, the cyclists as I cross the Leidseplein.
It maybe merits reiteration that in these as in all other matters debated at De
Balie the Dutch are not alone: it is up to all involved in debating such
questions self-critically, but with some sense of urgency, to clarify and move
the argument  forward. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Yet I strongly suspect that
if, after another absence of twenty-six years, I return to Amsterdam to debate
contemporary politics, the conversation in the bar afterwards, animated by much
Heineken and genever, will, in 1981 as in 2007, still be engaging with the
relationship of Europe and America, with Islam and secularism, with free speech
and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.signandsight.com/features/1167.html&quot;&gt;multiculturalism&lt;/a&gt;. These are challenges
facing all who are concerned, in Europe as in
the middle east, with current and often alarming developments. And they allow
of no immediate or definitive answers. With this, I feel confident, my
courteous, if somewhat unyielding interlocutor, Fritz Bolkestein, would
agree.  
&lt;/p&gt;
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