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 <description>It is definitely time that the E.U., with a total disregard for its citizens wishes, was consigned to the dustbin of history. What other institution with the kind of budget the E.U. enjoys would be allowed to go on year after year with nobody willing to sign off on its accounts. It is just &#039;jobs for the boys&#039; gone mad.</description>
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 <description>The eu has no higher ground when it comes to democracy, it is governed by an unelected commission, its president barrosso is swaning around the world like some dictator, he reminds me of Mussollini with his general demeanour, which is apt as the eu is rapidly becoming a fascist federal state.  The euro grandees have made it clear that democracy is not to be accepted as a means of governing this fascist state.  I can only hope that the vision of the real peoples of the different countries in europe canb see what is happening against their will, and eventually rise up in mass civil unrest against this bastardised governement in strasbourg where the commission is based.</description>
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 <description>John Palmer needs to get out a bit more. When the Consititution was put to the people of the Netherlands and France both said NO. The political elites have brought back the same document, given it a new name and we the PEOPLE are now expected to accept this regardless. Is there any wonder voter turnout is falling ? Why bother to vote when the political class, and its cheerleaders, merely turn round and say &#039;stuff you&#039; to the electorate when they don&#039;t get their own way. Arrogance is not the name for it. 

As to his arguments - such as they are - what is wrong with National Governments coming to bilateral agreements and why does the unaccountable EU have to be involved in most of the areas pointed out ? And if the proposed treaty is as he says why does it include a clause to allow further transfer of powers without a new treaty ? It is there go and read it. It might be well to remember the the rights and liberties of the People do not belong to the political class: they belong to US and it is not for that class to give those powers away. 

This treaty is just another example of why the whole EU project is rotten to the core and why it has corroded to the very soul all those who so blithly expouse it. Eventually the thing will fall apart: the only question is will it end in War. Remember Yugoslavia.</description>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;
After six years
of nervous, ill-tempered wrangling and episodic threats to wreck the entire
European Union venture, a new EU reform treaty was agreed by the union&amp;#39;s
twenty-seven heads of government at their &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eu2007.pt/UE/vEN/Reunioes_Eventos/ChefesEstado/IMHSG.htm&quot;&gt;Lisbon summit&lt;/a&gt; on 18-19 October
2007. Now the really hard work must begin.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;
John Palmer is a
member of the governing board of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.epc.eu/&quot;&gt;European Policy Centre&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Among John
Palmer&amp;#39;s articles in &lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&lt;/strong&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/node/3572&quot;&gt;Europe&amp;#39;s
enlargement problem&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (23 May 2006)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/node/3894&quot;&gt;Europe&amp;#39;s
foreign policy: saying ‘no&amp;#39; to the US?&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (12 September 2006)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/node/3985&quot;&gt;A commonwealth
for Europe&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (11 October 2006)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/globalization-britannia_redux/redux_palmer_4323.jsp&quot;&gt;Europe won&amp;#39;t
go away&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (6 February 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-europe_constitution/road_palmer_4476.jsp&quot;&gt;From Berlin to
Lisbon: the European Union back on the road&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (27 March 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy_power/europe_constitution/britain_charter_fundamental_rights&quot;&gt;Europe: the
square root of no&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (20 June 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;&amp;quot;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy/power/future_europe/next_steps&quot;&gt;Europe&amp;#39;s next
steps&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (26 June 2007) &lt;/span&gt;The new &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6901353.stm&quot;&gt;treaty&lt;/a&gt; will be signed
in December and it is increasingly probable that it will be approved in all
member-states by June 2009 when - along with the next direct
elections to the European parliament - it is due to come into force. It seems
only Ireland (which is constitutionally mandated to do so) will have to hold a
referendum. In the United Kingdom, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.radionetherlands.nl/currentaffairs/071022-eu-referendum&quot;&gt;Gordon Brown&lt;/a&gt; seems likely to
command a clear parliamentary majority for approval - especially given the
support of the third party, the Liberal Democrats.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Any discussion of
yet further treaties will now come to a halt - at least until around 2015 when
decisions will have to be taken on the admission to EU membership of &lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-turkey/turkey_europe_4130.jsp&quot;&gt;Turkey&lt;/a&gt; and the
remaining countries of the western Balkans. If this final stage of classical &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eurunion.org/newsweb/HotTopics/Enlargement.htm&quot;&gt;enlargement&lt;/a&gt; does happen, a
further (probably decisive) step to a more consistently democratic, federal
European Union will probably have to be agreed as well.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;A high-wire perspective&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Why do Europe&amp;#39;s
political leaders engage in the politically exhausting and sometimes dangerous
business of &lt;a href=&quot;http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90777/90856/6287186.html&quot;&gt;negotiating&lt;/a&gt; a stronger and
more effective European Union? The answer is not (as Europhobic
conspiracy-theorists often suppose) that they are in thrall to an obscure
ideological ambition or seek to promote an idealistic &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.federalunion.org.uk/index.shtml&quot;&gt;federalist&lt;/a&gt; faith. They do
so because they are attempting to confront problems - some of them deadly
serious - which their states are individually incapable of tackling.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
That is why the
Lisbon summiteers proceeded immediately from their agreement on the
new treaty to identifying a whole new range of global challenges which
individual states, however large, cannot conceivably respond to on
their own. These can broadly be summed up as &amp;quot;how to manage
globalisation and not be managed by it.&amp;quot; There is a shared sense among the
EU &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fco.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&amp;amp;c=Page&amp;amp;cid=1138869388884&quot;&gt;member-states&lt;/a&gt; that
globalisation is here to stay and can be a
source of greater prosperity and also greater economic and social
justice. But there is also a growing fear that unregulated&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.polity.co.uk/book.asp?ref=9780745634418&quot;&gt; globalisation&lt;/a&gt; could end in
disaster.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This fear
surfaced in Lisbon in the discussions about the new financial and investment
instruments that are creating wild-west-style market behaviour, triggering the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7c453090-7ff7-11dc-b075-0000779fd2ac.html&quot;&gt;continuing&lt;/a&gt; crisis in the
United States&amp;#39;s &lt;a href=&quot;/article/the_end_of_neo_liberalism&quot;&gt;sub-prime
mortgage market&lt;/a&gt;. The EU wants far greater - legally enforceable - transparency
in these &amp;quot;dark-side&amp;quot; transactions and is considering just what
institutions and processes would be needed to bring about greater regulation.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&lt;/strong&gt; writers track the European
Union in a decisive year:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Aurore Wanlin,
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-europe_constitution/six_lessons_4439.jsp&quot;&gt;The European
Union at fifty: a second life&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (15 March 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Krzysztof
Bobinski, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-europe_constitution/bobinski_rome_4456.jsp&quot;&gt;European
unity: reality and myth&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (21 March 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Frank Vibert,
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://the%20european%20union%20in%202057/&quot;&gt;The European Union in 2057&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (22 March
2057)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
George Schőpflin,
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-europe_constitution/EU_Birthday_4463.jsp&quot;&gt;The European
Union&amp;#39;s troubled birthday&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (23 March 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Simon Berlaymont,
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/tony_blair_and_europe.jsp&quot;&gt;Tony Blair and
Europe&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (30 May 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Kalypso
Nicolaïdis &amp;amp; Philippe Herzog&lt;strong&gt;, &amp;quot;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy_power/future_europe/fifty_towards_new_single_act&quot;&gt;Europe at
fifty: towards a new single act&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (21 June 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
John Palmer,
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy/power/future_europe/next_steps&quot;&gt;Europe&amp;#39;s next
steps&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (26 June 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Krzysztof
Bobinski, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy_power/future_europe/poland_confusion&quot;&gt;The Polish
confusion&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (28 June 2007)Michael Bruter, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy_power/future_europe/europe_back_door&quot;&gt;European
Union: from backdoor to front&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (3 July 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Olaf Cramme, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/democracy_power/future_europe/political_debate&quot;&gt;Europe:
politics or die&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (17 September 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Kalypso
Nicolaïdis &amp;amp; Simone Bunse, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/democracy_power/future_of_europe/eu_presidency&quot;&gt;The ‘European
Union presidency&amp;#39;: a practical compromise&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (10 October 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;As in some many
other areas where the EU aspires to play a more effective global
role (think of foreign policy or what follow-up there should be to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://unfccc.int/kyoto_protocol/items/2830.php&quot;&gt;Kyoto&lt;/a&gt; agreement on &lt;a href=&quot;http://ec.europa.eu/environment/climat/home_en.htm&quot;&gt;global warming&lt;/a&gt;) the question is raised:
&amp;quot;Does the European Union have the will to act in as united a way as it
talks?&amp;quot; The new EU treaty does lay down that the European Union should
represent its members as a collective entity in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.imf.org/external/am/2007/index.htm&quot;&gt;International Monetary Fund or
the World Bank&lt;/a&gt; or in the United Nations. But - in reality - that
is the direction it will have to take if it wishes to achieve its goals at a global
level.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
So far even those
member-states which are part of the single-currency eurozone
do not yet really act in a consistently integrated fashion. But if
they (let alone the twenty-seven EU states as a whole) are going to push
for global agreements on financial markets, on climate change,
on &lt;a href=&quot;/globalization-europe_constitution/greening_globalisation_4479.jsp&quot;&gt;sustainable&lt;/a&gt; development and
- above all - for a new multilateral
global alternative to great-power imperialisms in the field of foreign
and security policy, they will have to learn how to integrate more
effectively - with or without new treaties.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;A pan-European politics&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The most daunting
challenge of all, however, may not lie in the ambitions for a
greater global role for a multilateralist European Union. It surely
is to be found in bridging the yawning divide between the so-called
political &lt;a href=&quot;/article/globalisation/institutions_government/populist_poland&quot;&gt;elites&lt;/a&gt; and democratic
citizens. This divide - it must
be insisted - is as much as the national as at the European level.
It goes to the heart of the hollowing of contemporary&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.eudo.eu/index.php&quot;&gt; democratic politics&lt;/a&gt; (declining voter
participation in elections, imploding
membership of political parties, a drift to a suffocating but all-inclusive
political centrism) - which erodes a real sense of democratic &lt;a href=&quot;http://yalepress.yale.edu/yupbooks/book.asp?isbn=030010748X&quot;&gt;choice&lt;/a&gt; and an
ever-growing suspicion of the democratic
political process itself.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The irony is that
although the gap between the EU institutions and voters is
massive, the space does exist at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=39723&quot;&gt;European level&lt;/a&gt; to explore a greater
range of genuine democratic political &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tomorrowseurope.eu/spip.php?rubrique15&quot;&gt;alternatives&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
One reason is
that an EU of twenty-seven member-states (and likely to grow larger) is less
inhibited by global pressures from exploring different ways of relating
economic growth and competitiveness  to
social cohesion, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.polis-online.org/&quot;&gt;sustainable&lt;/a&gt; development and
non-profit-based forms of enterprise. In the years to come it may be that the
liveliest political debates will take place both at the &amp;quot;sub-national&amp;quot;
(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.allacademic.com/one/www/www/index.php?cmd=www_search&amp;amp;offset=0&amp;amp;limit=5&amp;amp;multi_search_search_mode=publication&amp;amp;multi_search_publication_fulltext_mod=fulltext&amp;amp;textfield_submit=true&amp;amp;search_module=multi_search&amp;amp;search=Search&amp;amp;search_field=title_idx&amp;amp;fulltext_search=European+or+Integration+or+and+or+the+or+Formation+or+and+or+Success+or+of+or+Regional+or+Parties&quot;&gt;regional&lt;/a&gt;) level and at
the European level.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This may also be
the only way the European Union can grow authentic political
leaderships capable of creating new compacts with voters. A first step in
this direction may be taken if the European parties fighting the &lt;a href=&quot;http://wapedia.mobi/en/European_Parliament?p=6%233.3.&quot;&gt;elections to
the European parliament&lt;/a&gt; in 2009 insist on putting their own candidates
for the next president of the European commission to voters for their approval.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Without the
emergence of such leaderships the European project will be dangerously
dependent on the sclerotic, essentially part-time, leadership they get from
national governments and national political leaders who find it so hard to
respond to the realities of the modern world.
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