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This report shows John Kerry not at his best.

1. - He is correct to call for a contraction of emissions globally and urgently - to zero - for 450ppmv/2-degrees. [see science update below].

2. - He is not correct [or smart] to rebuke Mrs Merkel&#039;s initiative for contraction with convergence. [Even Al Gore &#039;sells it&#039; [C&amp;amp;C] - though its true, he says he &#039;doesn&#039;t buy it&#039;: -
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2007/aug/08/guardiansocietysupplement.greenpolitics] 

[a] you cannot mathematically avoid that if global contraction is in play; 

[b] accelerating convergence relative to contraction is the equity point embedded in the US Senate&#039;s Byrd Hagel Resolution of 1997. BHR was unanimously supported by the US Senate in that year; 

[c] John Kerry was part of GLOBE USA that year and were formally committed to contraction and convergence a year later.

Anyway, this is all words-words-words.

Here is the science/logic update. This was put together at the request of Hilary Benn last month: -
http://www.gci.org.uk/Animations/BENN_C&amp;amp;C_Animation_[Tower_&amp;amp;_Ravens].exe</description>
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And so to John Kerry, who followed Harlan Watson&amp;#39;s press conference with
quite a different performance. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Like Al Gore - who will collect his Nobel prize later on today and then
jet over to Bali - Kerry is now a climate veteran. His message to Bali in a
nutshell: Bush is going, America will do its bit, but the developing world must
act too.
&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;
The core message was pretty clear:
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;quote-msg&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote-author&quot;&gt;Quote:&lt;/div&gt;The United States &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt;
going to be at the table. The United States is going to lead. The United States
is going to embrace significantly changed policies in order to deal with
climate change.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I can say that, not based on
what is happening in the future, but on what is happening right now.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Progress, he argued, would be underpinned by a ‘vast network at
grassroots&amp;#39; across the US; state action to reduce emissions; and a major shift
in opinion among big business. The issue would be a major theme of the
Presidential debate. Politics in 2009 would be &amp;quot;night and day&amp;quot; different from
the country&amp;#39;s current position.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
That said, it was striking that Kerry&amp;#39;s was much harder on developing
countries than the Europeans are.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The senator did everything he could to disassociate himself from the
Kyoto protocol. He had opposed the decision to exclude developing countries
from binding commitments at the time, he said. The short shrift it has received
was an inevitable consequence of its faulty design.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
It was now even more important to provide targets for countries like
China, India, Indonesia and South Africa. &amp;quot;Other folks have to come in, in some
way that is meaningful,&amp;quot; he argued.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Poor countries shouldn&amp;#39;t have to &amp;quot;meet the same standards at the same
pace, and achieve the same levels of reduction.&amp;quot; But there needed to be
guarantees over what they would do and when.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&amp;quot;The industrial world can&amp;#39;t do it alone, if the less developed world
thinks it can simply do the same things we did,&amp;quot; he said.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Kerry was also strongly critical of the argument advanced by Angela
Merkel among others, that countries should be aiming for similar levels of &lt;em&gt;per
capita&lt;/em&gt; emissions.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I asked him to explain. (Getting a question in was something of a
miracle. Kerry could never be accused of being concise. His &amp;#39;final point&amp;#39; went
on for a full twelve and half minutes.)
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This was his reply:
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;quote-msg&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote-author&quot;&gt;Quote:&lt;/div&gt;We &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; have to reduce
to a level that meets the science. The science told us a year ago that the
planet could tolerate [greenhouse gas concentrations] of 550ppm and [a
temperature rise from pre-industrial levels] of 3 degrees. Within one or two
years, that changed, it&amp;#39;s now 450ppm and 2 degrees centigrade.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
If that&amp;#39;s true, and if
certain countries are already at a developed level, the key is not to destroy
everybody&amp;#39;s economies and de-developize [sic] and throw everyone into
unemployment, and play a &lt;em&gt;per capita&lt;/em&gt; game.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The key is to make it
possible for every country to develop and continue to grow and prosper, without
regard to the population ratio of their emissions, because their emissions are
meeting the sustainable level that the science tells us we have to meet on a
global basis.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
That means you&amp;#39;re going to
have to reach near-zero emissions.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
So what should we conclude from this? It&amp;#39;s a little hard to say. But
here&amp;#39;s what I took away.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
First, Kerry was, in part, playing a domestic agenda. A Democratic
administration won&amp;#39;t be a push over, was the message.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Second, internationally, his words can be taken as a warning. Don&amp;#39;t push
America too hard, he was telling the other rich countries. Keep focus on the
main goal: getting ‘the United States into the picture.&amp;#39;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
And finally, I think his position reflects a very real concern vis-à-vis
America&amp;#39;s position among other &lt;em&gt;developed&lt;/em&gt; countries. An American
currently emits twice the quantity of greenhouses gases as a Brit, more than
two and half times as much as a French citizen, and over three times as much as
a Swede.
&lt;/p&gt;
You can see that it&amp;#39;s going
to be a huge mountain for the US to climb if its ‘fare share&amp;#39; of meeting future
reductions is calculated on a &lt;em&gt;per capita&lt;/em&gt; basis!</description>
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