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The problem with being in
the Bali bubble is that it&amp;#39;s far too easy to lose all sense of proportion. You
get hooked on the minutiae of the negotiations and, like any addict, forget
about the things that really matter.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Rumours flash from delegations
through NGOs to the media (and then bounce right back again). What&amp;#39;s true now,
may not be in twenty minutes&amp;#39; time. And the problem gets worse the longer the
talks go on. Too many people cooped up together, staying up too late (either
working or drinking, or sometimes both), going stir crazy, far from home...

&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This afternoon saw the
first signs of this characteristic madness here in Nusa Dua. Today was the day
the basic elements of the Bali war were drawn and so we had a phoney battle to
see how it would all work out.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Remember that we&amp;#39;re here to
agree a &lt;em&gt;process&lt;/em&gt;. These are talks about talks. We&amp;#39;re trying to agree a
roadmap for more negotiations that will take us to a deal in Copenhagen at the
end of 2009. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
But there&amp;#39;s always room for
drama and we&amp;#39;ve found it. So week one was about drawing out the protagonists.
On one side, those who want a roadmap with a destination built-in (25-40% cuts
for rich countries by 2020, global emissions cut in half or more by 2050). The
EU leads this camp. The UN and NGOs are supporters too.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
On the other, those who
want talks ‘without prejudice&amp;#39;. This is Team America, with the Canadians as
loyal foot soldiers, and the Japanese, and possibly Australians, prepared to
lend a hand as well.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
That leaves a lot of other
countries of course, who could combine to cut either side down. Developing
countries are ambivalent and suspicious. South Africa is catalyst of an
ambitious deal and may be joined by China. India&amp;#39;s A-list negotiators only
arrived today. It may take a hard line.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The Saudis, meanwhile,
deserve a category of their own. They don&amp;#39;t seem to be &lt;em&gt;for&lt;/em&gt; anything,
apart from the idea that they should be compensated for a climate regime&amp;#39;s
impact on their oil revenues.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
So, it&amp;#39;s mid afternoon in
the bubble and everyone&amp;#39;s beginning to think &lt;em&gt;game on&lt;/em&gt;. Then out of
nowhere - by the force of our collective will - we summon up a spat between our
two sides.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Vital ‘text&amp;#39; is said to
have been cut from the talks between members of the Kyoto club (rich countries
bar the US). Rich countries, the story goes, are reneging on their commitments.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Civil society
representatives are up in arms and fan out in the media centre. These guys are &lt;em&gt;superb&lt;/em&gt;
communicators, making every government here look like rank amateurs - and soon
journalists are hitting &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/156061.html&quot;&gt;the panic button&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The next thing you know,
the crisis has escalated. Targets are now &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/news/World/Greenhouse-gas-cut-targets-dropped/2007/12/10/1197135373994.html&quot;&gt;out
of the main&lt;/a&gt; Bali roadmap as well. Now that &lt;em&gt;really&lt;/em&gt; would be big news.
The US would be triumphant. The Euroweenies left to slink back to Brussels.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I hear about the news
through Australia&amp;#39;s &lt;em&gt;The Age&lt;/em&gt;:
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;quote-msg&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote-author&quot;&gt;Quote:&lt;/div&gt;The latest draft of an accord for the 190-nation
December 3-14 meeting, which is seeking to launch two years of negotiations on
a new pact to slow global warming, dropped a goal of cuts in emissions of 25-40
per cent below 1990 levels by 2020.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&amp;quot;The numbers are out of the latest text&amp;quot;, one
delegate said, adding that the United States had led opposition along with
countries including Japan and Canada.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Now something didn&amp;#39;t add
up. I can imagine that happening, but I just hadn&amp;#39;t heard about it happening
yet. Equally strangely, Yvo de Boer, the head UN guy at these talks, was
&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7135815.stm&quot;&gt;reported&lt;/a&gt; by the BBC as saying there was ‘little chance&amp;#39; of ambitious targets
making it into the final agreement. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
That was completely at odds
with what he&amp;#39;d told us at his lunchtime press conference:
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;quote-msg&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote-author&quot;&gt;Quote:&lt;/div&gt;The scientific community has
indicated that industrialized countries need to reduce their emissions in the
order of 25-40% by 2020 if we&amp;#39;re to get to grips with this issue. That&amp;#39;s going
to a critical part of the discussion on the future. It&amp;#39;s in the interest of
everyone that we walk away from here with a clear sense of where this process
is intended to take us.&lt;/div&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Now that may well be going
to happen. But according to what people are saying in my little corner of the
bubble, it hasn&amp;#39;t yet. Sure enough Reuters &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSL10721104&quot;&gt;returned with a correction&lt;/a&gt; (though
the BBC quote stands and may well be accurate). That unnamed delegate again:
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;div class=&quot;quote-msg&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote-author&quot;&gt;Quote:&lt;/div&gt;&amp;quot;The numbers are still in the text. There
has been a lot of pressure to take them out,&amp;quot; one delegate with intimate
knowledge of the draft negotiations said, correcting his own earlier statement
that the numbers had been removed.&lt;/div&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
So that&amp;#39;s the Bali roadmap
back in play. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Then (and I hope you&amp;#39;re
keeping up), we hear that the Kyoto club has put stringent targets back on the
table. If they were ever of it. Which I am not sure they have been since they
were first signed up to in Vienna.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Now I&amp;#39;m a lightweight and
am off to bed. The true hardcore, meanwhile, last the whole fortnight without
any sleep. Probably everything will have changed again by the time I arrive
back at the convention centre whenever I can drag myself out of bed tomorrow.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
So... some guidance for
readers:
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;It ain&amp;#39;t over until it&amp;#39;s over. Nothing is final
	until we finish on Friday (or Saturday if it all runs late).&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;Even when it&amp;#39;s over, it&amp;#39;s only just begun. The talks we&amp;#39;re hoping to start now actually finish in
	2009 (or 2010 or 2011 if it all runs late).&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
And, finally, I am not even
going to pretend to you that I&amp;#39;ll be maintaining a sense of proportion. Just
remember that everything I say is true only at the &lt;em&gt;instant&lt;/em&gt; it&amp;#39;s posted.
Bubble reality is flexible, fungible, and friable.  
&lt;/p&gt;
There&amp;#39;s
some sort of weird quantum shit going down. And where weird quantum shit is
concerned, it&amp;#39;s always the reader&amp;#39;s fault. Isn&amp;#39;t that what &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.aip.org/history/heisenberg/&quot;&gt;Heisenberg&lt;/a&gt; taught
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