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The Europeans don&amp;#39;t like
the message they&amp;#39;re getting from the Americans that the IPCC goal of a 25-40%
target is based on insufficient evidence to be a useful guide.
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&amp;quot;We don&amp;#39;t need new studies
and research,&amp;quot; the German Environment Minister, Sigmar Gabriel. &amp;quot;If we ask the
scientists, they&amp;#39;re just going to tell us the same thing. We have to reduce
25-40% in developed countries if we want to be on target for 2050. 
&lt;/p&gt;
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&amp;quot;It&amp;#39;s not a question of
known science. It&amp;#39;s a question of mathematics. These questions of mathematics
are clear since the Egyptians taught us to count.&amp;quot;
&lt;/p&gt;
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Speaking off the record, a
member of the EU delegation agreed. 
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&lt;div class=&quot;quote-msg&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quote-author&quot;&gt;Quote:&lt;/div&gt;The
IPCC has told us a great deal over the last year about how we should set the
level of ambition. 
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There
is an amazing degree of solidity which has built up in the basic science. Of
course, there are uncertainties, but they are second and third order
uncertainties.
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The
IPCC tells us to achieve 25-40% cuts in developed countries and turn the
emissions curve around in fifteen years. There&amp;#39;s a lot of robust science behind
that.&lt;/div&gt;
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The
American position was hubristic, if not arrogant, the delegate concluded, and
based on the view that one could ‘negotiate&amp;#39; the level at which dangerous
climate change will kick in.</description>
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 <pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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