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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Its quit difficult to  comment on a comment of  a study which hasnt been read.&lt;br /&gt;
However Mr.  Rogers, as well the authors og the study are significantly, completly wrong in seing or implicating &quot; the barbarians at the Gate&quot;. They are already in, Sir, not at the Gate.  Obviously the study and the comment does not cover that significant change in world affairs, that an completely new threat from within Western societies has emerged and how will the west tackle that item? First the unchangeable fundamentalist where let in by the core of the EU members, Canada  and the US, as migrant workers, emigrees-political economic etc. which have established huge  islamic societies in the countries, known as the Atalantic Alliance, society or call it as you may wish. The big portions, if not the overwhelming majority of these emmigrants,  do not want to  adopt to the rules and laws  of the democratic society, which fastly developing, but  use the tradtitional developed tolerance, the liberty and freedom rights, for spreading their own, often very onesided and intolreant to others religous belief-the islam. The result was, that due to the Dictatorial Regime of the Shach of Iran, a fundamental revolution in Iran sponsored by a bunch of  Fanatics over years out of France, and  from many other stounge Nato Allied countries, succeded and a Western ally  disapeared in important region of the World. Now we are facing the change in Turkey, a Nato Ally, where fundamental islamists are  gaining day by day more and more territory, influenced from the spread of fundamental teachings among turkish emigrees in Western Europ. Not to speak about Pakistani emigree societies in Canada, or the US. So are those siginifacnt military experts going to use their First strike capability also against German Moslems in Germany, British in Britain, Canadian im Canada, Bulgarian in Bulgaria, who dare to attack from within the Nato alliance?&lt;br /&gt;
The First decade of the  twenty First century shows that with its narrow minded policy instead of cotaining fundamental Islam, Nato, has and is still sponsoring the spread of islam all over the world and First and foremost even among its own allies...  Secularism and civilized delopment may and could be pretty soon at stake. The World of enlighenment which brought such an siginificant advancement to mankind, including the incredible opportunitiy  to develop socieies throught the rich natural ressources, and discover new huge opportunities is threatened. Threatend by people who still live in and preach  toughts ot 7th century but want to share the benefits of the 21! That should be stopped or changed! At least those who would like to live and preach to their terms should be learned to abideby  some rules and not to force others to live on their terms! They should  learn theire role in the game.&lt;br /&gt;
So what will you do when in several years you will have a British soldiers of islamic Fath sitting the control pult, whos father is shouting on Londons street Allah  is Great? I  personally would not like to know what will happen?&lt;br /&gt;
Those problem has to be tackled immediately in any military doctrine inside and outside NATO, while adjusting the  nuclear strategy to  the needs of  the next 2 Decades, before it is to late! When the aggresive advance by whatever means of an agressive ideology, which since the 7 th century  is spreading by sword and flame on the planet earth,then we will certainly be able to speak about the new Atlantic century in which free nations with secular governments will be the guarantee for the peaceful spread of Democracy, Freedom, Liberty, Egalite.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Buddy&lt;/p&gt;
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 <title>The New Atlantic Century?, Paul Rogers </title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;
A new report on the future of western security
was published on 10 January 2008 under the auspices of the Center for Strategic
and International Studies (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.csis.org/component/option,com_csis_events/task,view/id,1468/&quot;&gt;CSIS&lt;/a&gt;) in Washington and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.noaber.com/Page/sp188/nctrue/Index.html&quot;&gt;Noaber Foundation&lt;/a&gt;. The media coverage it received focused
mainly on its recommendation that Nato retain the option of a first-use policy
on nuclear weapons. This is understandable, but also a pity: for the report -
in its omissions as much as its main propositions - is more deeply revealing of
the true condition of &amp;quot;western security&amp;quot; in the first decade of the new
century. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;
Paul Rogers is professor of peace studies at
Bradford University, northern England. He has been writing a weekly &lt;a href=&quot;/author/Paul_Rogers.jsp&quot;&gt;column&lt;/a&gt;  on global security on &lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&lt;/strong&gt; since 26 September 2001
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
A &amp;quot;radical manifesto&amp;quot; is the
unlikely description of a document with such an official-sounding, even
portentous title (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ssronline.org/document_result.cfm?id=3454&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Towards a Grand Strategy for an Uncertain World: Renewing
Transatlantic Partnership&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;) and list of contributors
(former defence chiefs from the United States, France, Britain, Germany and the
Netherlands). The combination of political profile and military authority they
bring to a discussion of the west&amp;#39;s security concerns helps explain why the
media has chosen to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/01/22/wnato122.xml&quot;&gt;highlight&lt;/a&gt; the nuclear issue in its reporting; and it is
true that some of Nato&amp;#39;s leading member-states (for example, Britain) are
determined to maintain the first-use option even as they plan a replacement of
current missile systems. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
At the same time, the very emphasis on the
nuclear aspects of the report carries the risk of missing some of the much
wider issues it raises. This would be a pity, for the report deserves to be
read as a whole: it is of great value in explaining the dominant western
security paradigm, proposing an ambitious 
extension of its scale, and indicating (albeit unwittingly) why it is so
flawed.   
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The
west&amp;#39;s assumption&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The central concern of &lt;em&gt;Towards a Grand Strategy...&lt;/em&gt; is with the security of one section of
the human and geopolitical community: the states of the north Atlantic. It
addresses problems that arise out of processes of globalisation - such as
transnational terrorism, climate change, energy security and mass migration -
and demands radical changes in the north Atlantic alliance to meet these
threats. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The introduction makes the perspective clear: 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&amp;quot;In their long-term agenda the authors
propose abandonment of the two-pillar concept of America and Europe
cooperating, and they suggest aiming for the long-term vision of an alliance of
democracies ranging from Finland to Alaska. To begin the process, they propose
the establishment of a directorate consisting of the USA, the EU and NATO. Such
a directorate should coordinate all cooperation in the common transatlantic
sphere of interest.&amp;quot; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The entire &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.analyst-network.com/article.php?art_id=1606&quot;&gt;report&lt;/a&gt; is written from the standpoint of &amp;quot;the
common transatlantic sphere of interest&amp;quot;, and develops the view that only
a &amp;quot;super-Nato&amp;quot; can guarantee security for its members and order in
the wider world. The key assumption underlying this approach deserves to be
brought out. This is that the north Atlantic is a fundamentally civilised
community that is under threat from the forces of disorder - by implication,
the barbarians at the gate.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;
In addition to his weekly &lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&lt;/strong&gt; column, Paul Rogers writes an international security
monthly briefing for the Oxford Research Group; for details, click &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oxfordresearchgroup.org.uk/paulrogers.htm&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;here&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Paul Rogers&amp;#39;s most recent book is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.polity.co.uk/book.asp?ref=9780745641966&quot;&gt;Why We&amp;#39;re Losing
the War on Terror&lt;/a&gt; (Polity, 2007) - an
analysis of the strategic misjudgments of the post-9/11 and why a new security
paradigm is needed
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This notion of an essentially benign order is
at the core of the western security paradigm: &amp;quot;we&amp;quot; embody liberal
democracy rooted in the free market, which together represent the current
apogee of world civilisation. In code, &lt;em&gt;Towards
a Grand Strategy...&lt;/em&gt; implies that a &amp;quot;new Atlantic century&amp;quot; is required to
rescue the &amp;quot;new American century&amp;quot; from its recent problems.    
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The
hidden injuries &lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
From within the confines of the institution
and political world that shapes and informs the document, it can appear
convincing. From a global perspective, however, it simply will not do. An alert
listener might even be able to hear an echo from graduates of the John McEnroe
school of international relations: &amp;quot;you cannot be serious!&amp;quot; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
What the report fails properly to consider is
vital to a proper assessment of its argument. A reference to the impact of
western policies (including security policies) in the first decade of the 2000s
in two areas - the global environment and the war on terror - make the
argument.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
On the global environment, a new compilation
of World Bank and Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) assessments
- published by the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences [&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pnas.org/&quot;&gt;PNAS&lt;/a&gt;]) -
concludes that the environmental damage done by the world&amp;#39;s richest states to
their poorer counterparts is more than the entire global-south debt of $1.8
trillion (see &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://journalwatch.conservationmagazine.org/2008/01/22/destruction-sans-frontieres/&quot;&gt;Destruction sans frontières&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, &lt;em&gt;Conservation
/Journal Watch Online&lt;/em&gt;, 22 January 2008). This outcome - supported too by
data from the United Nations&amp;#39;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.millenniumassessment.org/en/index.aspx&quot;&gt;millennium ecosystem assessment&lt;/a&gt; - has stemmed from the differential causes
and impacts of greenhouse-gas emissions, ozone depletion, deforestation,
overfishing and other environmental effects. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The richest states which have inflicted this
damage now demand that the majority world reconfigures its own development aims
to prevent a worldwide environmental catastrophe in the future. China and
Brazil, among other leading states in the global south, are all too aware of
the likely effects of &lt;a href=&quot;/article/globalistion/global_deal/planetary_emergency&quot;&gt;climate change&lt;/a&gt; on their own environments and the need for &lt;a href=&quot;/global_deal&quot;&gt;collective action&lt;/a&gt;; but this is accompanied by accumulated bitterness at the elitist
attitudes of the Atlantic community, which also lie at the heart of the &lt;em&gt;Towards a Grand Strategy... &lt;/em&gt;report. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
On the war on terror, the effects of United
States-led campaign on the middle east and southwest Asia have been severe, seen in these regions (and to a considerable extent
across the majority world as a whole) as part of a project of control and subjugation. More
than six years after the attacks in New York and Washington on 11 September
2001, two countries (Iraq and Afghanistan) are under western military
occupation, with every prospect of remaining that way for decades. The number
of forces involved is huge: there are over 175,000 foreign troops in Iraq and
55,000 in Afghanistan (see &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/global_security/war_of_the_long_now&quot;&gt;The war of the long now&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, 18 January 2008). The US stations another
40,000 troops in Kuwait, and France&amp;#39;s Nicolas Sarkozy announced
on 15 January plans to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/15/AR2008011503298.html&quot;&gt;establish&lt;/a&gt; the country&amp;#39;s own first permanent military
base in the oil-rich Persian Gulf.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
There is also a &amp;quot;hidden&amp;quot;
occupation, with an estimated 180,000 &lt;a href=&quot;/article/democracy_power/american_power_world/blackwater_effect&quot;&gt;private contractors&lt;/a&gt; working for the United States in Iraq and thousands more in
Afghanistan. The contractors essentially have free reign in countries where the
foreign military exercises significant and in many cases decisive power (see Ali
Gharib, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=40865&quot;&gt;Iraqi Contractor Abuses Rarely
Punished, Groups Say&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;,
IPS,  21 January 2008). There have been
numerous instances of abuses by contractors in Iraq, yet &lt;a href=&quot;http://hrw.org/english/docs/2008/01/09/iraq17703.htm&quot;&gt;Human Rights Watch&lt;/a&gt; estimates that only one prosecution has
resulted.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The
other&amp;#39;s telescope&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The 9/11 atrocities in the United States
killed almost 3,000 people. The results of the policies pursued by western
states in the aftermath have carried a human toll far in excess even of this
terrible number. The joint World Health Organisation/ Iraqi health ministry
survey &lt;a href=&quot;http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/NEJMsa0707782&quot;&gt;published&lt;/a&gt; on 9 January 2008 estimates that 150,000
civilians were killed in Iraq alone between March 2003 and June 2006 (see
Michel Thieren, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/conflicts/iraq_handover/numbers_game_revisited&quot;&gt;Deaths in Iraq: the numbers
game, revisited&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, 11 January 2008). The numbers injured will
far exceed this total; and the deaths and woundings continue. This direct,
measurable &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iraqbodycount.org/&quot;&gt;cost&lt;/a&gt; is compounded by the fact that the parlous
state of medical facilities in many parts of Iraq has meant low standards of
care, persistent lack of pain relief and life-long impacts of injuries that
might otherwise have been treated.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In the security field, at least 30,000 people
are currently detained in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere (there are fewer
records of the numbers held without trial or due process). Since 2001, over
100,000 have been &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.plutobooks.com/cgi-local/nplutobrows.pl?chkisbn=9780745326641&amp;amp;main=&quot;&gt;imprisoned&lt;/a&gt; for various periods - some for more than six
years. In addition, there have been numerous instances of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ghostplane.net/&quot;&gt;rendition&lt;/a&gt;,
torture, and other forms of abuse. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Many of these facts, and the wider narratives
that offer an explanation of them - which are very different from those
recycled in most of the west&amp;#39;s media - are familiar across the majority world.
The consistent reporting on al-Jazeera, al-Arabiya and the other &amp;quot;new
generation&amp;quot; media outlets (including innumerable websites) means that
citizens in the global south have access to sources of information and opinion
that challenge  perspectives from the western establishment . This is one ingredient of a
long-term rebalancing of the world&amp;#39;s order that will define the real security agenda of
the 21st century. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The global environment and the global war
present challenges so grave that they require in response an aspiration not to
a new Atlantic or American century but one to worldwide human
security. In this harsh light, the viewpoint of the authors of &lt;em&gt;Towards a Grand Strategy... &lt;/em&gt;seems&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;skewed to an almost comical degree. 
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