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 <description>&lt;p&gt;We do not yet, Hamed, but that is a very good idea. I will suggest it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tony&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;It:s very nice for student . I have one question :&lt;br /&gt;
Do you have stories that read  for listening purposes?&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m reading Bette Bao Lord&#039;s Legacies; a Chinese Mosaic. I&#039;ve had the book since it was first published but just got around to reading it (I&#039;m going through all my books, some hundreds of them and reading all the ones I have not yet read.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have not been able to follow most of the stories because I am woefully ignorant of Chinese history during the 20th century. Yesterday I began a study (online) of the status of culture and politics from 1889 to now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s been incredibly enlightening, fascinating, and fun. I&#039;m thoroughly enjoying every word I&#039;m reading. Thank you.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;I can agree with the thrust of this article - but it isn&#039;t just China. Reporting of any country - reporting of any issue that the public aren&#039;t intimately familiar with - suffers the same biases.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;communist party of china afraid of USA that its abet students to anti american in fact ,resurgent Chinese nationalism come from commy party influence of obscurant.chinese only get a idea that&lt;br /&gt;
loyalty to party(communist)same as loyalty to nation.lots of chinese people only understand nation is&lt;br /&gt;
party.lots of things  of being confused by communist party of china .because communist party control the media and  journalists are according the  ideology of party to deceive chinese people by&lt;br /&gt;
TV and newspaper and broadcasting.even block the network.chinese can&#039;t get something true.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Having traveled extensively through large parts of China not including Mega Cities I was very glad to finally come across an article that I can wholeheartedly support. I have been frustrated by constant misrepresentation of China especially by chines journalist not living in China. To get a true picture of this gigantic and marvelous land and it people one should travel there.&lt;br /&gt;
The article could be given an additional understanding if one pictures the European Continent including Russia as one country under one regime. Could it possibly be homogenous ? Than why think of an even larger country that way.&lt;br /&gt;
Thank you for trying to make the western world understand the &quot; Mosaic of China&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Good article and very good advertisement of your book :) &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;www.ego.wot.pl&lt;br /&gt;
a new Internet newspaper&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;
China is continually part of the global news
agenda, a tendency that is certain to accelerate in 2008 as its supercharged
economy develops and as Beijing hosts the Olympic games on 8-24 August. This
media coverage of China in the west is often dominated by emotionally charged stories, of
which the reports of the film director Steven Spielberg&amp;#39;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c3328ffe-db67-11dc-9fdd-0000779fd2ac.html&quot;&gt;about-face&lt;/a&gt; on 12 February - from considering playing an
advisory role in planning the spectacles that will accompany the &lt;a href=&quot;/democracy_power/china_inside/beijing_olympics_china_politics&quot;&gt;Olympics&lt;/a&gt; to criticising the Chinese Communist Party
for its policy in Africa - is but one example. In such times, it is important
if not always easy to avoid the tendency to oversimplify contemporary China.
But how can outside observers escape this trap?
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt; Jeffrey N Wasserstrom is a &lt;a href=&quot;http://newsinfo.iu.edu/sb/page/normal/665.html&quot;&gt;professor&lt;/a&gt; of history at the University of California, Irvine.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
His most recent book is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iupress.indiana.edu/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=41638&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;China&amp;#39;s
Brave New World-And Other Tales for Global Times&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (Indiana University Press, 2007), and his next will be &lt;em&gt;Global Shanghai, 1850-2010&lt;/em&gt; (Routledge,
forthcoming).  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
He writes for a wide
range of academic and general interest periodicals and is a founding member of
a new group blog on Chinese issues, &lt;a href=&quot;http://thechinabeat.blogspot.com/2008/01/our-daily-reads-best-of-china-blogs.html&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The
China Beat: Blogging How the East Is Read&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;In the Chinese history courses I teach, one of
my goals is simply to get students to think of the country as an incredibly
diverse place - and realise that popular western images of &amp;quot;China&amp;quot; thus often
only have relevance for particular social groups or particular regions. Despite
all the shots they have seen of Chinese people dressed in widely divergent
ways, old visions of a monolithic country where everyone wears &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://iisg.nl/%7Elandsberger/cult.html&quot;&gt;Mao suits&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; linger. And even when notions of uniformity
fall, they&amp;#39;re sometimes replaced by new visions of China as divided neatly
along a single axis.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The challenge in the classroom, and with
people I encounter elsewhere who have just a passing interest in China, is to
convey the idea that the People&amp;#39;s Republic (PRC) is a complex social and
geographic patchwork. This involves an effort to make tangible the ways that
different social variables (class, ethnicity, gender, generation, location) all
add distinctive elements to how individuals experience life. The sense that
China is diverse not monolithic - with, for example, important divides not just
between regions but between communities within a region and even sections
within a city - is a vital route to understanding about the country.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Thus, I sprinkle my lectures with tidbits of
information designed to undermine common, mistaken notions about what has
united or currently unites all Chinese. I note that many people living in some
northern provinces a century ago would have gone to their deathbeds never
having tasted rice; that the dialects in far-flung regions can differ from one
another in sound more than English does from German; that a friend of mine in
Shanghai refers to having felt a sense of exile when she moved from her
childhood home in the centre of the metropolis (known for its distinctive wide
boulevards lined with plane trees and cosmopolitan air) to a university at the
northern edge of the city (bordered by farmland); and that, though press
coverage of China can leave the impression that most people in the PRC were
shaped by life under &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.asiasource.org/society/mao.cfm&quot;&gt;Mao Zedong&lt;/a&gt;, some 40% of them were not even alive when he died (indeed, stringent
caps on population growth notwithstanding, some 25% of residents of the PRC
today were born after the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gwu.edu/%7Ensarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB16/index.html&quot;&gt;massacre&lt;/a&gt; of 4 June 1989.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Yet it remains hard to get my students to take
on board the degree of variation in life-experiences and attitudes within
China, today as in the past (in fact, even during the heyday of Maoism, there
was far less uniformity - dress-styles aside - than is often imagined). This is
partly the result of two tendencies in establishment media coverage.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The
two temptations&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The first might be called the &amp;quot;totalitarian
temptation&amp;quot;: a tendency to slide into misleadingly presenting the PRC as a
homogeneous place where the state decides everything and groupthink
predominates. A classic case is the incident during the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.yalebooks.co.uk/yale/display.asp?K=9780300097252&amp;amp;search_text=kosovo&amp;amp;sort=SORT_DATE%252FD&amp;amp;search_field=KEYWORD&amp;amp;x=0&amp;amp;y=0&amp;amp;m=3&amp;amp;dc=6&quot;&gt;war for Kosovo&lt;/a&gt; in 1999, when American missiles hit the
Chinese embassy in Belgrade, killing three citizens of the PRC.  In response, the Beijing government
sanctioned anti-Nato student &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/may/9/newsid_2519000/2519271.stm&quot;&gt;protests&lt;/a&gt; which, however, quickly acquired another
dimension.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;Also
on China&amp;#39;s politics in &lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&lt;/strong&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Andreas
Lorenz, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-climate_change_debate/article_2407.jsp&quot;&gt;China&amp;#39;s environmental suicide: a government minister speaks&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (6
April 2005)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Isabel
Hilton, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-china/censorship_2817.jsp&quot;&gt;China&amp;#39;s freedom test&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (7
September 2005)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Lung
Ying-tai, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-china/hu_jintao_3271.jsp&quot;&gt;A question of civility: an open letter to Hu Jintao&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (15
February 2006)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
David
Wall, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-china/plan_3402.jsp&quot;&gt;The plan and the party&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (29
March 2006)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Christopher
R Hughes, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-china/nationalism_3456.jsp&quot;&gt;Chinese nationalism in the global era&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (18
April 2006)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Kerry
Brown, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/people-china/list_brown_4477.jsp&quot;&gt;China&amp;#39;s top fifty: the China power list&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
(2 April 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Li Datong, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy_power/china_inside/beijing_olympics_china_politics&quot;&gt;Beijing&amp;#39;s Olympics, China&amp;#39;s
politics&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (22 August 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Li Datong, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/democracy_power/china_inside/new_history_old_politics&quot;&gt;Shanghai: new history, old
politics&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (19 September
2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Kerry
Brown, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/democracy_power/china/party_congress&quot;&gt;China&amp;#39;s party congress: getting serious&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (5
October 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Li Datong, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/china_from_the_inside/china_modernisation&quot;&gt;China&amp;#39;s modernisation: a unique
path?&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (28 November
2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Li Datong, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/china_inside/china_protests_or_politics&quot;&gt;Xiamen: the triumph of public
will?&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (16 January 2008)&lt;/span&gt; I happened to be in China at the time, and I
knew that these protests were much more complex than simply
government-orchestrated show-demonstrations. They were fuelled by genuine
outrage (no country&amp;#39;s residents like it when their embassies get blown up) and
a generation&amp;#39;s desire to affirm that it was as patriotic as any that had come
before it. Yes, the &lt;a href=&quot;/article/democracy_power/china/party_congress&quot;&gt;regime&lt;/a&gt; sanctioned the displays of outrage and took
pains to steer them in certain directions. At the same time, some western
reporting of the events effectively stripped the students who took to the
streets of any agency, presenting them as unthinking automatons - even though
in some cases youths did things (like call for a boycott of British and
American goods) that the government had explicitly directed them not to
do. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
A particular example of the totalitarian
temptation from that time stays with me: the analogy drawn by the rightwing
American periodical the &lt;em&gt;Weekly Standard&lt;/em&gt;
of China&amp;#39;s young people as being shaped by a mode of groupthink reminiscent of
the Borg, a character in the &lt;em&gt;Star Trek&lt;/em&gt;
universe. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The second tendency might be called the
&amp;quot;dualistic temptation&amp;quot;, the formulaic presentation of China as divided - but
just into two. In a report on the Dalai Lama, for example, news agencies might
focus on the division between &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.palgrave.com/products/title.aspx?is=9781403974792&quot;&gt;frontier-zones&lt;/a&gt; like &lt;a href=&quot;http://cup.columbia.edu/book/978-0-231-13680-8/lhasa&quot;&gt;Tibet&lt;/a&gt; and the rest of the PRC. In stories on
consumerism, the urban-rural split is the key binary. In coverage of economic
disparities, the frame is the gulf separating Beijing and coastal cities such
as Shanghai, where living standards have soared, from hinterland locales that
are lagging behind. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This is a seductive approach for lazy or
under-resourced journalists. Many who are neither of these things apply this
China-divided-into-two template in another area, politics: by presenting the
vision of a clear divide between free-thinking dissidents and those loyal to or
cowed by the regime.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The China-as-dualistic method is certainly
better than seeing everything as homogenous. But it does not go far enough.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The best PRC-based foreign journalists - and
there are some superb ones in the field - understand well the limits of
monolithic and even dualistic visions of China. They strive to present it as a
mosaic, socially and geographically. But it can be hard for these astute
reporters to get stories that go beyond the China-as-one or China-as-two models
into circulation, since many media gatekeepers seem to assume that western
audiences (perhaps particularly American ones) want simple answers to complex
China questions.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
What then is to be done?
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The
inside stories&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The simplest things can help; for example,
offering information that reveals the limits of monolithic images and simple
binary divides. The news stories about largely middle-class protests in &lt;a href=&quot;/article/china_inside/china_protests_or_politics&quot;&gt;Xiamen&lt;/a&gt; (where people rallied against a chemical
plant being built near their homes) and Shanghai (where people &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/01/21/opinion/edwasserstrom.php&quot;&gt;demonstrated&lt;/a&gt; to stop an extension of a Maglev railway)
provide an opportunity to expose the limits of a dissident/non-dissident
divide. Some of these protesters are people who, on the whole, are quite
satisfied with where their country is headed, but are still ready to take
action to assert their right to a greater say in things that directly affected
the quality of their lives and value of their property.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Indeed, perhaps the single thing I&amp;#39;ve found
most effective lately in countering the totalitarian or the dualistic
temptation is just to tell stories about my time watching the anti-Nato
protests of 1999 at firsthand. In my latest book, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iupress.indiana.edu/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=41638&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;China&amp;#39;s
Brave New World - And Other Tales for Global Times&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (Indiana University Press, 2007), I&amp;#39;ve tried
to give these classroom stories a wider impact, by using them as the basis for
one of its chapters.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
One story I&amp;#39;ve long told in class and repeat
in that chapter is about observing a campus meeting, just as the protests were
starting to wind down. The meeting began with a professor asking a room full of
students how many of them had taken part in the recent demonstrations. About
half put up their hands and about half didn&amp;#39;t. This wouldn&amp;#39;t have happened with
a state-sanctioned movement in a truly totalitarian state: everyone would have
either gone to the march, or at least been smart enough to claim later that
they had.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
A second story has to do with going from
Beijing to Shanghai (two places often lumped in the same category of &amp;quot;places
doing well&amp;quot;) midway through the protests. I sensed a dramatic difference in
mood when I got to &lt;a href=&quot;/article/democracy_power/china_inside/new_history_old_politics&quot;&gt;Shanghai&lt;/a&gt;, a sense that there was much less antagonism
toward me as an American than I had felt in the capital. When I mentioned this
to Shanghai residents I had just met, they nearly always responded in the same
way - using it as an excuse to launch into a spirited soliloquy about how much
less dogmatic and more open-minded and practical Shanghai people were than
their Beijing counterparts. (And had I gone to Beijing second and told people
there how much more intense the protests there seemed to be, I&amp;#39;m quite
confident some of them would have used this as an invitation to lecture me about
how much more deeply patriotic residents of their city were than the
money-grubbing and superficial denizens of Shanghai.)
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
If I could just transport my students back to
1999 and have them accompany me on my trip, I think I could make them immune to
ever again thinking of the PRC in monolithic or even dualistic terms. It was,
after all, a time when I met protesters who weren&amp;#39;t dissidents, saw
state-sanctioned rallies in which demonstrators called for tactics the
government had expressly decried, and learned anew, even in this age of
resurgent &lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-china/nationalism_3456.jsp&quot;&gt;Chinese nationalism&lt;/a&gt;, that in China as in some other countries
loyalty to one&amp;#39;s city can often be as passionate as loyalty to the nation. But
since time-travel is impossible outside a &lt;em&gt;Star
Trek&lt;/em&gt; world, I&amp;#39;ll just hope that telling stories like those in the classroom
and on the page can serve the purpose almost as well.
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