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 <description>&lt;p&gt;This was a rather delightful article. I enjoyed reading it very much. However, I&#039;d like to mention a point which to me seems like a misunderstanding. You stated that men are not allowed in lingerie shops. I find that a bit strange because my husband buys me lingerie from local shops. I have also gone with him to lingerie shops in Riyadh and no one refused to let him enter. Nonetheless, there are a few lingerie shops that might prohibit the entry of men but others such as La Senza, Nayomi and Women&#039;s Secret don&#039;t seem to have a problem with that. Anyways, lovely article! Thank you for the submission.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Here is a more terrifying aspect of life for women in the kingdom&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;http://www.victorhanson.com/articles/burton022005.html&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;
Wafa&amp;#39;a
is a very unusual Saudi woman. A character it would be difficult to
come across in the streets and shopping-malls of Riyadh city. So I
was lucky to have her as my guide during a two-week visit to Saudi
Arabia&amp;#39;s capital. The adventure started every day after work,
when Wafa&amp;#39;a and I met and she gave me the opportunity to
&amp;quot;uncover&amp;quot; her city. A different Riyadh than I had
imagined, but as real as Wafa&amp;#39;a herself is.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.arij.net/look/english/details_bio.tpl?IdLanguage=1&amp;amp;IdPublication=2&amp;amp;NrArticle=156&amp;amp;NrIssue=3&amp;amp;NrSection=2&quot;&gt;Bissane
El-Cheikh&lt;/a&gt;
is a journalist with &lt;em&gt;al-Hayat  &lt;/em&gt;newspaper, reporting widely
since 2001 on politics, media and current affairs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also
by Bissane El-Cheikh in openDemocracy:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/conflicts/middle_east/taxi_meeting&quot;&gt;Lebanon
and Israel: back seat, front line&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
&lt;br /&gt;
(1 August 2007) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
A
divorced mother of three in her mid-30s, Wafa&amp;#39;a is proud to
introduce herself as &amp;quot;the first event planner in all the
kingdom&amp;quot;. She ends the sentence - enunciated, of course, in
perfect English - with a smile, then pauses to allow the listeners to
be impressed. She knows the curiosity it brings and takes pleasure in
arousing it. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The
reality of event planning in Saudi Arabia has its own flavour.
Wafa&amp;#39;a&amp;#39;s entourage and &amp;quot;fine clientele&amp;quot; are
mainly foreign women who have moved to Riyadh with their husbands and
seek entertainment and diversion to lighten their long, heavy days;
this might be limited on occasion to an organised shopping-trip.
Wafa&amp;#39;a concedes nothing to her western counterparts. She is the
image of the perfect &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/11/17/saudi-arabia-women-in-business/&quot;&gt;businesswoman&lt;/a&gt;
- with three mobile-phones, a shiny four-wheel-drive car and a full
schedule. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
For
many in oil-rich Saudi Arabia - young urban professionals especially
- having more than one mobile-phone is no big deal. Wafa&amp;#39;a
explains: one is for work, one for family and one for friends. But if
this gives the impression that the three-phone deal is about boring
old efficiency, forget it.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In
a deeply conservative, restricted, religious and segregated society
like &lt;a href=&quot;http://go.hrw.com/atlas/norm_htm/sdarabia.htm&quot;&gt;Saudi
Arabia&lt;/a&gt;, the
use of the mobile-phone is being reinvented both to fit and to test
the limits of the local culture. In an environment where male-female
interaction outside immediate family members is almost non-existent,
it enables people to reach and be reached by others in unprecedented
freedom. At the same time, the freedom is regulated informally by
well-defined rules that define what individuals can do in given
situations.   
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&amp;nbsp;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
For
teenagers and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newsfromnowhere.org.uk/books/DisplayBookInfo.php?ISBN=1845294270&quot;&gt;young
adults&lt;/a&gt;,
for example, the traffic-jam offers a safe haven to meet the &amp;quot;other&amp;quot;,
and eventually - the holy grail - date. It works like this: a boy (or
girl) writes his (or her) phone number clearly on a large piece of
paper and then pastes it against the window of the car, trying to
catch the attention of the Riyadh belle in the neighbouring vehicle.
If the sender is lucky, a call will soon follow and a &amp;quot;virtual&amp;quot;
date is underway. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
I
am stunned yet impressed by ruses such as this, used by young Saudis
to overcome the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cambridge.org/uk/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=9780521858366&quot;&gt;obstacles&lt;/a&gt;
to live what others would regard as a normal life. &amp;quot;What did
they do before mobiles where invented?&amp;quot; I ask Wafa&amp;#39;a
naively. Her answer comes wrapped in a cynical tone &amp;quot;They
relied on their mothers and sisters... now with all the
technology and the bluetooth nothing is difficult anymore&amp;quot;.&lt;span class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;Also
in &lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;br /&gt;
about Saudi Arabia:&lt;br /&gt;
Jane
Kinninmont, &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/conflict-middle_east_politics/saudi_women_3521.jsp&quot;&gt;Saudi
Arabia&amp;#39;s women pioneers&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
(8 May 2006)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mai
Yamani, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/faith-europe_islam/mecca_3882.jsp&quot;&gt;Mecca:
Islam&amp;#39;s cosmopolitan heart&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
(5 September 2006)&lt;/span&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
It
was almost midnight in Tahlia Street, the fashionable district of
Riyadh where the flavours of the world&amp;#39;s cuisines mix and
mingle in the crowded restaurants. yet each food court has two floors
or sections - &amp;quot;single&amp;quot; (for men) and &amp;quot;family&amp;quot;
(reserved either for a group of women or for actual families). It is
after sunset, but the streets are bubbling as people enjoy relief
from the burning heat of the day.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In
the trendy branch of the Hard Rock Café or the elegant
&lt;em&gt;L&amp;#39;Entrecote de Pari&lt;/em&gt;s you can order a glass of Saudi wine
or champaign. It&amp;#39;s a kind of sweet grape juice, made in France
exclusively for Saudi Arabia. As for champagne, it&amp;#39;s a mix of
juice with fizzy water and a splash of lime.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The
talk of the town&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Wafa&amp;#39;a
was driving her new car. In theory, that is, for women are still not
allowed to drive in the kingdom for fear that this mobility would
bring them into contact with men (though pressure from women has led
to the government&amp;#39;s pledge to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/01/21/wsaudi121.xml&quot;&gt;lift&lt;/a&gt;
this restriction). So Wafa&amp;#39;a &amp;quot;drives&amp;quot; by dictating
every turn and reverse to &amp;quot;Hidaya&amp;quot;,  her Malaysian
driver. &amp;quot;He doesn&amp;#39;t know how to drive&amp;quot;, Wafa&amp;#39;a
whispered to me. &amp;quot;My brother managed to get him the license,
and I promised to teach him how to drive. But he can&amp;#39;t even
read the signs... they&amp;#39;re all written in Arabic&amp;quot;.
Many Saudi &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/4397615.stm&quot;&gt;women&lt;/a&gt;
are taught how to drive by their brothers or husbands in the desert
roads outside the city, and later pass this brief knowledge to their
even less expert drivers. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Wafa&amp;#39;a
is frustrated at not being &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/news/news.php?article=13969&quot;&gt;able&lt;/a&gt;
to drive her own car. But she also admits &amp;quot;being more
comfortable&amp;quot; this way: she doesn&amp;#39;t live on her nerves on
the road or worry about finding a parking spot. This luxurious form
of travel tempts me, until I recall the feeling of driving my car
alone in Beirut along the seashore after a stressful day of work.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Riyadh&amp;#39;s
echoes of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.arriyadh.com/En/Ab-Arriyad/index.asp&quot;&gt;tradition&lt;/a&gt;
alongside the skyscrapers make it seem postmodern to me, much more so
than Dubai. But for Wafa&amp;#39;a it&amp;#39;s the modern that counts.
She tries to impress by showing me every glitzy &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.arriyadh.com/En/Shopping/index.asp&quot;&gt;mall&lt;/a&gt;
in town, each containing the most lavish branches of international
boutiques and brand names. Yet here too it is impossible to avoid the
reality of segregation - as well as steps to recuperate it for
women&amp;#39;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2006/02/24/2003294437&quot;&gt;benefit&lt;/a&gt;.
For here is a giant shopping-mall and a new hotel that proudly
proclaim: &amp;quot;for women only&amp;quot;. Inside, all shopkeepers and
security-guards are women. The talk of the town!
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
These
two feminine &amp;quot;shrines&amp;quot; are considered by many Saudis as a
major step towards &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=25605&amp;amp;Cr=saudi&amp;amp;Cr1=arabia&quot;&gt;women
emancipation&lt;/a&gt;.
I couldn&amp;#39;t understand how an additional wall between genders
can be considered a tool of liberation. &amp;quot;Women can have all the
freedom they want while shopping... especially for underwear&amp;quot;,
I heard many times.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
But
the separation of the sexes is qualified here too: for since women
are restricted in their ability to work in public spaces, the
shopkeepers are men - usually &lt;a href=&quot;http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=36319&quot;&gt;non-Saudis&lt;/a&gt;.
This makes the point about buying underwear (or clothes in general)
even more piquant. In the &amp;quot;mixed&amp;quot; malls, the underwear
shops are the only ones where men are forbidden to enter. So a woman
can&amp;#39;t buy items in front of her husband but she can discuss her
intimate size with a stranger!
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The
faces and shy eyes of these foreign male workers suggest to me they
are the new generation of castrated &lt;em&gt;ghulams&lt;/em&gt; in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dukeupress.edu/cgibin/forwardsql/search.cgi?template0=nomatch.htm&amp;amp;template2=books/book_detail_page.htm&amp;amp;user_id=28019&amp;amp;Bmain.item_option=1&amp;amp;Bmain.item=14851&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;harem&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.
Wafa&amp;#39;a laughs: she never even thinks of them as &amp;quot;men&amp;quot;.
In the
fancy lingerie stores, men are not allowed even if they accompanying
their wives, sisters or mothers. The space is left for shoppers and...
vendors.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
At
the entrance to the &amp;quot;mixed&amp;quot; malls stand other male
figures: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3321637.ece&quot;&gt;religious
police&lt;/a&gt;,
bearded, in pairs or groups. They make sure that women are properly
covered and men are escorted by at least one female family member. To
my great surprise, this is the only public place where men must have
an escort if they wish to enter. The logic behind it, I was told, is
to keep single men from flirting around! 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
As
we wander the women-only aisles in the new mall, the passing figures
look like they are floating on water with their black &lt;em&gt;Abaya&lt;/em&gt;
(gowns) trailing behind small but confident steps. They whisper
rather than speak, yet their sharp eyes &lt;a href=&quot;http://bt.yahoo.com/&quot;&gt;tell&lt;/a&gt;
much more than the veil can hide.   
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
You
can estimate their age by looking at their shoes: trainers or classy
high heels? Here, every detail counts. The handbag, the sunglasses
and even the watch take on huge dimensions. Most women are very
trendily dressed under their gowns. I realise how clumsy we &amp;quot;modern&amp;quot;
women are by comparison. Since blue jeans are my favourite outfit, it
takes me a while to learn how to walk with the gown and fix the
headscarf. Since I am a foreigner, it is OK to show my face. Wafa&amp;#39;a
too disdains the face-veil, though her heavily made-up face is
another kind of covering. It&amp;#39;s true, the amount of make-up and
perfume women from the Gulf region wear has always intrigued me. But
two days into my Riyadh trip, in my enveloping black gown, I find
myself drawing a thick layer of kohl to my eyelids and a shadow of
red to my lips. Anything to add some colour to my day... 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Men?
Oh yes, them &lt;/strong&gt; 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In
Saudi Arabia, elegance is not only for women. Men too pay great
attention to their leather handmade shoes and personally tailored
white robes, where a small broidery is immediately noticed. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In
the streets it&amp;#39;s very common to see two young men holding hands
and walking side by side in a charmingly natural intimacy. Such
through-the-looking-glass moments are a reminder that Saudi Arabia is
a country where  sexuality is ever present and even dominant in all
social behaviour, yet where sexual identity itself is vague and
elusive. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
My
male Saudi colleague Abed wears a feminine perfume. He couldn&amp;#39;t
understand why I was astonished. He asked me if this was not &amp;quot;in
your culture&amp;quot;. I told him that much of what I saw in Riyadh is
not in &amp;quot;any&amp;quot; culture... it is so surprising and
unique that it can&amp;#39;t take you back to anything you knew before.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This
didn&amp;#39;t seem to take things any further. The day I left, I
hugged Wafa&amp;#39;a and in the same mood of spontaneity hugged Abed.
He turned red...his first &amp;quot;kiss&amp;quot;!
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