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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Andrew Dobson&#039;s comments are thought provoking. His assertions match with my own thoughts that for some time we have been living in a &quot;why don&#039;t they...? society, where too many people expect someone else to do everything.  A perfect example : a Friends group, dedicated to looking after a local nature reserve were seen clearing brambles and were asked if they worked for the Council. &quot;No&quot; said their leader. &quot;Then why are you doing that ?&quot; was the response. &quot;Because we take a pride in our locality and want it to look pleasant &quot; said the leader and - hoping to recruit more help asked &quot;Would you like to join us ?&quot;  The reply ?  &quot;You must be joking&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Happily there are still folk around who are willing to put themselves out in many similar ways, but at the same time clubs and societies cannot find anyone to take over from aging committee members; scouts and other youth groups are closing because no-one will volunteer to become leaders; charities can persuade people to give cash but not to help out for a few hours - and so it goes.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Despite our labour saving world, our days are overflowing with too much activity, we are overloaded and too busy to care about things other than to ask &quot;why don&#039;t they.....?&quot;  As Andrew says, there is not much to be gained by replying &quot;why don&#039;t YOU ? &quot;  A few people setting an example does not appear to have any effect on the free-riders.  It is not surprising therefore, if carrot and stick becomes the chosen way of trying to influence public behaviour. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I agree that a change in attitude is needed, and would be interested to find out just how this is to be achieved.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Vee&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p id=&quot;n3th&quot;&gt;
It
might seem a long way from public toilets to the politics of climate
change, but there&amp;#39;s an important relationship between what is
happening to such public spaces and what is happening to the climate.
As so often, it is one of the &amp;quot;rich&amp;quot; countries where the
notion of the public realm has been most corroded by individualist,
marketised ideology - Britain - that provides a vivid illustration of
a more general international trend.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p id=&quot;n3th&quot;&gt;
&lt;span class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;Andrew
Dobson is &lt;a id=&quot;eil0&quot; href=&quot;http://www.keele.ac.uk/research/lpj/membership/profiles/A.Dobson.htm&quot;&gt;professor&lt;/a&gt;
of politics at Keele University. Among his books are &lt;a id=&quot;valj&quot; href=&quot;http://www.oup.com/uk/catalogue/?ci=9780199258444&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Citizenship
and the Environment &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (Oxford
University Press, 2003), (as co-editor) &lt;a id=&quot;id56&quot; href=&quot;http://www.cambridge.org/catalogue/catalogue.asp?isbn=0521546982&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Political
Theory and the Ecological Challenge&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
(Cambridge University Press, 2006) and &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a id=&quot;x75i&quot; href=&quot;http://www.routledge.com/shopping_cart/products/product_detail.asp?sku=&amp;amp;isbn=9780415403528&amp;amp;parent_id=&amp;amp;pc=/shopping_cart/search/search.asp?search%253Dandrew%252Bdobson&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Green
Political Thought&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;  (Routledge,
new edition, 2007). &lt;br /&gt;
His website is &lt;a id=&quot;vgop&quot; href=&quot;http://www.andrewdobson.com/&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also by
Andrew Dobson in &lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&lt;/strong&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a id=&quot;uz.2&quot; href=&quot;/globalization-climate_change_debate/politics_4486.jsp&quot;&gt;A
politics of global warming: the social-science resource&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
&lt;br /&gt;
(29 March 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a id=&quot;zegl&quot; href=&quot;/article/globalisation/politics_climate_change/state&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
A
climate of crisis: towards the eco-state&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
(19 September 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/climate_change/was_bali_a_success&quot;&gt;Was
Bali a success&lt;/a&gt;?&amp;quot; (18 December 2007) &lt;/span&gt;In
March 2008, the secretary of state for communities and local
government noticed that as Britain&amp;#39;s urban areas were hosting
ever-busier crowds of daytime shoppers and nighttime revellers, the
number of &amp;quot;public conveniences&amp;quot; available to meet their
needs was insufficient. Something had to be done.    
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p id=&quot;mer.&quot;&gt;
The
solution &lt;a id=&quot;f25v&quot; href=&quot;http://www.communities.gov.uk/profiles/corporate/hazelblears&quot;&gt;Hazel
Blears&lt;/a&gt;
proposed is instructive. Pubs, cafés, restaurants and shops
are to be paid by local councils to &lt;a id=&quot;q_bn&quot; href=&quot;http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/new-labours-latest-target-for-modernisation-britains-public-lavatories-792763.html&quot;&gt;allow&lt;/a&gt;
the public in to use their toilets (or what other parts of the
English-speaking world knows as &amp;quot;rest rooms&amp;quot;). This is a
kind of private-finance initiative (&lt;a id=&quot;hel1&quot; href=&quot;http://www.hm-treasury.gov.uk/documents/public_private_partnerships/ppp_index.cfm&quot;&gt;PFI&lt;/a&gt;)
in reverse: one in which public money is diverted to private
enterprises so that they can provide what is indisputably a public
service. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p id=&quot;yp.1&quot;&gt;
The
alternative seems obvious: to spend the money on refurbishing and
maintaining public toilets, without the private go-between. Why isn&amp;#39;t
it the first option of a minister whose remit covers the health of
&amp;quot;communities&amp;quot;? Because it is - according to a crude cost
calculation - less expensive to pay the private sector than invest in
the public sector. The problem here - and the insight it can
generate - is that the notion of &amp;quot;cost&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;expense&amp;quot;
being employed is an impoverished one that fails to recognise the
value of the public sphere itself. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p id=&quot;u_:i&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The
wrong path&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p id=&quot;y40i&quot;&gt;
The
environment is a classic example of a &amp;quot;&lt;a id=&quot;lzkd&quot; href=&quot;http://www.greenfacts.org/glossary/abc/common-pool-resource.htm&quot;&gt;common-pool
resource&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;:
no one can be effectively excluded from using it, but it is finite
and diminishing.   Common-pool resources are subject to the
&amp;quot;free-rider problem&amp;quot;: namely, that people can&amp;#39;t be
excluded from benefiting from the resource, and therefore have no
self-interested reason for keeping it well-maintained. In fact their
self-interest lies in relying on other people to maintain it, while
they spend their time doing other things. The popular English phrase
that captures this phenomenon is &amp;quot;having your cake and eating
it&amp;quot;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p id=&quot;u-sh&quot;&gt;
There
are a number of possible solutions to the &lt;a id=&quot;e.n0&quot; href=&quot;http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/free-rider/&quot;&gt;free-rider
problem&lt;/a&gt;.
Many focus on those who do free-ride, but it is less common - and may be
more interesting - to attend more to those who don&amp;#39;t. Why would
anyone work to maintain a public resource from which they could
benefit equally well without doing so? The answer lies in the
commitment of those people to the idea of the public realm where the
common-pool resource is located. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p id=&quot;v1tm&quot;&gt;
This
suggests a different type of solution to problems like climate
change.  The most familiar such solutions tend to be written in the
language of commerce and contract, according to which self-interested
people will only act for the common good when it&amp;#39;s in their
interest to do so. So tradable permits combined with a cap on
emissions, for example, are proposed as a way to guarantee lower
overall emissions. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p id=&quot;fplg&quot;&gt;
But
from the point of view of the free-rider problem, tradable permits
are part of the problem rather than part of the solution - because
they reinforce the frame of mind that leads to the problem in the
first place. It will always be in the free-rider interests of
carbon-traders to set the cap too high and the price of carbon too
low - which is exactly what happens all the time.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p id=&quot;rii2&quot;&gt;
&lt;span class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;
Also
in &lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&lt;/strong&gt;,
David Steven&amp;#39;s blog from the Bali climate-change summit opens
our new &lt;a id=&quot;o031&quot; href=&quot;/global_deal&quot;&gt;Global
Deal&lt;/a&gt; partnership with&lt;a id=&quot;u2bj&quot; href=&quot;http://www.e3g.org/index.php&quot;&gt; E3G.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Plus....&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy
&lt;/strong&gt;writers debate the &lt;a id=&quot;nluj&quot; href=&quot;/globalization-climate_change_debate/debate.jsp&quot;&gt;politics
of climate change&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
John
Elkington &amp;amp; Geoff Lye, &amp;quot;&lt;a id=&quot;c3.3&quot; href=&quot;/globalization-climate_change_debate/fixes_4311.jsp&quot;&gt;Climate
change&amp;#39;s right and wrong fixes&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
&lt;br /&gt;
(2 February 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Dougald
Hine, &amp;quot;&lt;a id=&quot;dmha&quot; href=&quot;/globalization-climate_change_debate/question_democracy_4399.jsp&quot;&gt;Climate
change: a question of democracy&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
&lt;br /&gt;
(2 March 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Andrew
Dobson, &amp;quot;&lt;a id=&quot;awev&quot; href=&quot;/globalization-climate_change_debate/politics_4486.jsp&quot;&gt;A
politics of global warming: the social-science resource&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
&lt;br /&gt;
(29 March 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Oliver
Tickell, &amp;quot;&lt;a id=&quot;e0_y&quot; href=&quot;/globalisation/politics_climate_change/live_earth&quot;&gt;Live
Earth&amp;#39;s limits&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
(6
July 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Mike
Hulme, &amp;quot;&lt;a id=&quot;je4h&quot; href=&quot;/article/globalisation/politics_protest/climate_change&quot;&gt;Climate
change: from issue to magnifier&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
&lt;br /&gt;
(19 October 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
David
Shearman, &amp;quot;&lt;a id=&quot;faps&quot; href=&quot;http://opendemocracy.net/article/climate_change/democracy_climate_change_failure&quot;&gt;Democracy
and climate change: a story of failure&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
&lt;br /&gt;
(7 November 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Camilla
Toulmin, &amp;quot;&lt;a id=&quot;yijk&quot; href=&quot;/article/climate_change/bali_no_time_to_lose&quot;&gt;Bali:
no time to lose&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
&lt;br /&gt;
(30 November 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom
Burke, &amp;quot;&lt;a id=&quot;i3ca&quot; href=&quot;/article/globalistion/global_deal/planetary_emergency&quot;&gt;The
world and climate change: all together now&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
(7 December 2007)&lt;/span&gt;An
alternative frame of mind is &lt;a id=&quot;qj.y&quot; href=&quot;http://tls.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,25350-2633036,00.html&quot;&gt;needed&lt;/a&gt;
- one which seeks to maintain the integrity of the common-pool
resource because of its public benefit, not because of some private,
excludable benefit that might accrue to the individual. This is an
explicitly non-contractual approach to collective social action, and
one which runs counter to the popular and apparently unassailable &amp;quot;I
will if you will&amp;quot; campaign for pro-environmental action. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p id=&quot;l3n9&quot;&gt;
When
this formula is examined more closely, two flaws emerge. The first is
that it assumes that the free-rider problem has been overcome - but
it hasn&amp;#39;t, since it can&amp;#39;t ever really be known whether
other people are fulfilling their side of the bargain. So the
contract contains the permanent possibility of its own demise through
internal corrosion.   
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p id=&quot;mnpw&quot;&gt;
The
second problem with the formula is its logical corollary: &amp;quot;I
won&amp;#39;t if you won&amp;#39;t&amp;quot;. This is obviously a recipe for
inaction, yet in the free-rider world it is the most likely outcome
of the contractual approach. Moreover, it becomes even more damaging
where the relationship between the individual and government is
concerned, since in conditions of widespread low levels of &lt;a id=&quot;smlz&quot; href=&quot;http://www.computing.co.uk/computing/news/2212699/ten-citizens-trust-government&quot;&gt;trust&lt;/a&gt;
in government even in many democratic states, citizens often won&amp;#39;t
fulfil their part of the contract because they don&amp;#39;t believe
government will fulfil its. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p id=&quot;xck:&quot;&gt;
So
what is required is a different social logic: &amp;quot;I will even if
you won&amp;#39;t&amp;quot;. This seems utterly illogical from the point
of view of commerce and contract; but it is entirely rational when it
comes to building the kind of social movement that climate-change
&lt;a id=&quot;cbld&quot; href=&quot;http://www.scidev.net/en/climate-change-and-energy/mitigation/&quot;&gt;mitigation&lt;/a&gt;
requires.   
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p id=&quot;ggnb&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The
right shift&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p id=&quot;yy5c&quot;&gt;
This
is exactly where the idea of the public realm plays such an important
role. The public sphere is where members of a society learn what a
common-pool resource is and how to look after it. It is where people
develop non-contractual habits, and learn how to cope with
free-riders without falling into the trap of believing that the only
solution is privatised &amp;quot;incentivisation&amp;quot; - which
just makes the problem worse. Taxes, fines, exemptions, rewards and
permits all point away from the public towards the private, which is
precisely the wrong direction. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p id=&quot;vniy&quot;&gt;
To
solve the problem of climate change, a broader and wider frame of
reference than seems currently on offer is essential. &lt;a id=&quot;w6vf&quot; href=&quot;/globalization-climate_change_debate/fixes_4311.jsp&quot;&gt;Technological&lt;/a&gt;
solutions alone are not enough - but nor are &lt;a id=&quot;lzvm&quot; href=&quot;/globalization-climate_change_debate/climate_change_3939.jsp&quot;&gt;political&lt;/a&gt;
solutions, so long as they run along the same lines that caused the
problem in the first place.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p id=&quot;pv36&quot;&gt;
This
is why Hazel Blears&amp;#39;s favouring of the privatised solution to
the problem of public conveniences is bad news not just for
late-night revellers but for the fight against climate change. It
reinforces the brutal assault on the idea of the public realm which
has been such a marked feature of life in Britain over the last
thirty years. Yet without this idea, and a commitment to its
protection and what it represents, a society&amp;#39;s ability to
address key environmental challenges such as climate change is
severely damaged.   
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p id=&quot;n01x&quot;&gt;
The
fight against climate change is at once technological, political,
economic and cultural - and the biggest cultural change the
government could effect would be to expand and defend the public
sphere. In too many places, however, governments seem to be pushing
their citizens in the opposite direction: private-finance
initiatives, individual learning contracts, council-house sales,
declining library budgets, and - yes - the demise of the
public convenience. All these are potent indicators of the corrosion
of the public realm and public interest.   
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p id=&quot;d:th&quot;&gt;
The
biggest casualty of the rush to privatisation, enclosure and the
withering of the public sphere may well be the climate itself. It&amp;#39;s
time for a change of outlook - one which will make so many other
things, hitherto unimagined, suddenly possible.
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