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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Certainly Italy during last two decades has lost ground in Europe and forecasts are not favourable, but certainly Berlusconi is not the cause. Perhaps he is the result of this situation. Public administration  heavily worsened in the 80s due to corruption and expenditure of regions out of control. &quot;Mani pulite&quot; had dismantled pro-west political parties but not pro-Soviet Union parties. At this point Berlusconi emerged and was able to attract former pro-west voters.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;As an Italian, it is for me sad having to completely agree with the comment above, but that&#039;s the way it seems to be unfortunately. Too large a fraction of us seem to act and decide naively or irresponsibly, driven by short-termism or worse. We can call for well-grounded historical and cultural reasons to explain this and actually, there is a considerable amount of  serious literature about. But this does not change the picture. A short summary of what has happened in Italy in the recent past, at least culturally, is in my opinion given by the recently published results of the International Adult Literacy Survey,&lt;br /&gt;
(see for instance http://www.statcan.ca/english/Dli/Data/Ftp/ials.htm or http://www.indire.it/lucabas/lkmw_file/eurydice//articolo_gallina.pdf&lt;br /&gt;
for a summary of results in Italian), showing that the level of adult literacy (and numeracy) in Italy is at about the same level as some not well performing areas of so called developing countries. It is probably superfluous to add that this study drew little or no attention in Italy&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;This is a bit hard on the Prodi government, to which should be credited not just steps towards fiscal soundness but useful reforms to regulation and an attempt (now thwarted) to resolve the problem of Italy&#039;s state-owned airline. Prodi himself is a decent man who struggled hard to maintain governance in impossible circumstances.&lt;br /&gt;
 But there&#039;s an underlying problem, common to analysts of modern Italy. It&#039;s a reluctance to name the people of Italy as culprits. Are the Italians, as a people really not responsible for their political fate; have they merely been put upon by the political class. It becomes a question about their willingness to watch Berlusconi television channels. At least we need to raise, if only to dismiss, the notion of false consciousness. When Italians in this election as in previous say they are going to vote for Berlusconi because he is a successful entrepreneur and will, ipso facto, be a good prime minister, something is wrong with basic understanding of either or both politics and the state. And so it must be, or else organised crime would never penetrate out of those geographically confined areas where it festers.There is something pre-modern or juvenile about Italian attitudes towards government, which cannot be wholly explained by the usual suspects of Christian Democracy, the CIA, the Vatican, Craxi or Masonic lodges.&lt;br /&gt;
 The problem of Italian voters is compounded by the evidence that in local contests they can behave fairly rationally and give power to/take it away from mayors and city authorities and, to some extent, the provincial governments which, in many instances, work quite well.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;
This is the election that few Italians wanted.
One of the failures of Romano Prodi&amp;#39;s disputatious government, elected by a
narrow majority in the election of &lt;a href=&quot;http://electionresources.org/it/senate.php?election=2006&amp;amp;region=&quot;&gt;9-10 April 2006&lt;/a&gt;, was the strengthening of the belief among its
citizens that Italy&amp;#39;s
political class was more remote than ever. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12668666&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;La
Caste&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;(as Sergio Rizzo &amp;amp; Gianantonio Stella have &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=4021&quot;&gt;described&lt;/a&gt; Italy&amp;#39;s political elite) - better
paid and more numerous than its European peers, overwhelmingly male and more
likely to have been involved in criminal activities - is seemingly entrenched
in power. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
An early election has been inevitable since
Prodi &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,530904,00.html&quot;&gt;resigned&lt;/a&gt; on 24 January 2008 after losing a vote of
condfidence in the senate. Nothing that has happened since then - certainly not
the campaign populism of former prime minister Silvio Berlusconi or the studied
moderation of emergent centre-left leader Walter Veltroni - has altered the
belief in &lt;em&gt;La Caste&amp;#39;s&lt;/em&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1db3648a-f760-11dc-ac40-000077b07658,dwp_uuid=59c67df8-eb7c-11dc-9493-0000779fd2ac.html&quot;&gt;enduring&lt;/a&gt;
position. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;
Geoff Andrews is
staff tutor in politics at the Open University. He is the author of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.plutobooks.com/cgi-local/nplutobrows.pl?chkisbn=9780745323671&amp;amp;main=&amp;amp;second=&amp;amp;third=&amp;amp;foo=../ssi/ssfooter.ssi&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Not a Normal Country: Italy After Berlusconi&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (Pluto, 2005),
published in Italian as &lt;em&gt;Un Paese Anormale&lt;/em&gt;
(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.effepilibri.it/&quot;&gt;effepilibri&lt;/a&gt;, 2007). His &lt;em&gt;The Slow Food Story: Politics and Pleasure&lt;/em&gt;
will be published by Pluto Press in 2008. Geoff Andrews is also an associate
editor of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.soundings.org.uk/&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Soundings&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Among Geoff Andrews&amp;#39;s articles
on &lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&lt;/strong&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/node/2982&quot;&gt;The life and
death of Pier Paolo Pasolini&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (November 2005)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/node/3231&quot;&gt;Italy&amp;#39;s
election: no laughing matter&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (1 February 2006)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/node/3400&quot;&gt;Berlusconi&amp;#39;s
bitter legacy&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (29 March
2006)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;I&lt;a href=&quot;/node/3428&quot;&gt;n search of a normal country&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (6 April
2006)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/node/3443&quot;&gt;Italy between fear and hope&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (11 April
2006)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-protest/prodi_centre_4389.jsp&quot;&gt;Romano Prodi&amp;#39;s
fragile centre&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (27 February 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy_power/politics_protest/italy_veltroni&quot;&gt;Walter
Veltroni: Italy&amp;#39;s man for all seasons&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (3 July 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/democracy-power/protest/velroni-grillo&quot;&gt;Italy: another
false dawn&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (22 October 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/globalisation/italys_political_meltdown&quot;&gt;Italy&amp;#39;s political  meltdown&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (30 January 2008)
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The campaign for the the vote on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.angus-reid.com/tracker/view/29877/italy_2008&quot;&gt;13-14 April 2008&lt;/a&gt; has been lacklustre. It has come to life only
in its final days, when Berlusconi raised the stakes (as he did in the 2006
election) by warning of centre-left cheating and voting irregularities.
Veltroni&amp;#39;s response was first to call for his rival to respect the constitution
and then to repeat the claim made by the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economist.com/world/europe/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11022014&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Economist&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; in July 2003, that Berlusconi was &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.societacivile.it/memoria/articoli_memoria/dossier_economist.html&quot;&gt;unfit to govern&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Silvio
Berlusconi&amp;#39;s record &lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
But the question is not merely who is fit to
govern, but whether Italy
can &lt;em&gt;be&lt;/em&gt; governed. The election is
being conducted under an absurd electoral system bequeathed by Silvio
Berlusconi shortly before the 2006 election and designed to prevent a clear
majority from emerging. It is arguable that the most likely outcome of this or
any other election taking place under such rules is that Italy will become (or
remain, some would argue) virtually ungovernable (see &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/globalisation/italys_political_meltdown&quot;&gt;Italy&amp;#39;s governing disorder&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; [31 January 2008]). 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Yet Italy needs to elect a government
capable of reforming its institutions and to revive a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economist.com/world/europe/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10925781&quot;&gt;sluggish&lt;/a&gt; economy. Italy&amp;#39;s economy underwent rapid
decline during Silvio Berlusconi&amp;#39;s second period in office between 2001-06 (the
first had lasted only from April 1994 to January 1995); and while Romano Prodi reduced
the spiralling public-spending deficit, the economy is still in a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/04/09/europe/italy.php&quot;&gt;perilous&lt;/a&gt; condition. Ten years ago, Italy had surpassed the British economy in
respect of the citizens&amp;#39; purchasing power and was second only to Germany among
the leading five European Union economies. Now, it has fallen behind Spain and Greece,
a statistic that few of Italy&amp;#39;s
political class are willing to admit. It is now second-last amongst the fifteen
pre-enlargement EU countries;  on current
projections, according to the Italian think-tank &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.visionwebsite.eu/&quot;&gt;Vision&lt;/a&gt;, will be overtaken by the ex-communist
countries over the next decade. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The economic record of the previous &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/11/witaly111.xml&quot;&gt;Silvio Berlusconi&lt;/a&gt; government, his unresolved &amp;quot;conflicts of
interest&amp;quot; as media entrepreneur and prime minister, and his ineptness as a
statesman make many Italians as well as those of other nationalities wonder how
it is possible that he might win again. Berlusconi himself has no doubts. His
election slogan, &lt;em&gt;Rialzati Italia&lt;/em&gt;
(&amp;quot;Get Up, Italy&amp;quot;)
reflects his belief that his success as an entrepreneur can lift the
aspirations of his people. His usual populism has shaped his campaign strategy,
which has included his claim that he has a business plan waiting to buy out the
ailing Alitalia. When asked by a young woman what he proposes to do for people
like herself struggling on a low income, his response was that she should marry
a millionaire like his son. Worryingly, she took his answer in good faith and
will probably vote for him. It is a measure of the inability of Romano Prodi&amp;#39;s
government to make significant economic change that Berlusconi is still able to
do this. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Walter
Veltroni&amp;#39;s appeal&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This election has probably come too early for
Walter Veltroni, leader of the new Democratic Party, which was founded in
October 2007 through a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/44ed41d8-0719-11dd-b41e-0000779fd2ac,dwp_uuid=59c67df8-eb7c-11dc-9493-0000779fd2ac.html&quot;&gt;merger&lt;/a&gt; of the two main centre-left parties: the
ex-communist &lt;em&gt;Democratici di sinistra&lt;/em&gt;
and the Christian Democrat &lt;em&gt;Margherita&lt;/em&gt;.
Veltroni has fought a cautious and moderate campaign, attempting to project
himself as the statesman Italy
needs at its vital hour. His slogan &lt;em&gt;Si
Puo Fare (&lt;/em&gt;&amp;quot;Yes we can&amp;quot;) is taken from &lt;a href=&quot;/article/taking_obama_seriously&quot;&gt;Barack Obama&amp;#39;s&lt;/a&gt; Democratic campaign in the United States - signifying that Veltroni, an
admirer of John F Kennedy and many other foreign statesman, is hoping to lead Italy back to
the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esteri.it/MAE/EN/Politica_Europea/Italia_in_UE/&quot;&gt;European&lt;/a&gt; and western mainstream. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
He has refused to align with the communists,
has brought in some younger candidates and has attempted to pose the electoral
question as one of building a new Italy. Yet he has conservative
forces in his ranks and some of the more innovative civil-society initiatives
in recent years have come from the left, who are in a separate coalition. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The election manifestos of the two main
coalitions have many similarities. Both offer lower taxation and promises to
modernise Italy&amp;#39;s
economy. Yet, there are also significant differences. The rightwing coalition,
the &lt;em&gt;Popolo della Libertà&lt;/em&gt; (People of
Freedom / PdL) - bringing together Berlusconi&amp;#39;s &lt;em&gt;Forza Italia&lt;/em&gt; and Gianfranco Fini&amp;#39;s &amp;quot;post-fascist&amp;quot; &lt;em&gt;Alleanza Nazionale&lt;/em&gt; (National Alliance),
while sustaining an alliance with the Northern League - takes a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f1918596-00f9-11dd-a0c5-000077b07658,dwp_uuid=59c67df8-eb7c-11dc-9493-0000779fd2ac.html?nclick_check=1&quot;&gt;tougher line&lt;/a&gt; on immigration and Iran. The Democratic Party
offers greater links with European allies and more support for pensioners.
However, the main contrast is in the language of reform, with Veltroni seeking
early institutional changes, including overhauling the electoral system and
reducing the number of politicians. On these questions he has at least been
consistent; whether his coalition is strong enough to shape a new political
consensus is a matter of continuing doubt. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Italy&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&amp;#39;s
choice&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
If the very governability of Italy is the
shadow that overhangs the 13-14 April election, the most probable result is yet
another stalemate - followed by a period of uncertainty, rancour and
recrimination. Although many voters are still undecided on the eve of the vote
- and there is still &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a0a297f6-068a-11dd-802c-0000779fd2ac,dwp_uuid=59c67df8-eb7c-11dc-9493-0000779fd2ac.html&quot;&gt;time&lt;/a&gt; for a surprise or two - many observers (as well as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/berlusconis_coalition_leads_all_in_italy/&quot;&gt;opinion-pollsters&lt;/a&gt;) anticipate a win for Berlusconi&amp;#39;s coalition
in the lower chamber (where the leading coalition is guaranteed a winning bonus
of seats) and parity or a tiny majority for either side in the senate, where
the votes are decided by strict regional proportionality. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In such a scenario, the smaller parties such
as the centrist Union of Christian Democrats, close to the Vatican and reminiscent of the worst aspects of
the old DC - its leading representative in &lt;a href=&quot;/node/3602&quot;&gt;Sicily&lt;/a&gt;, Salvatore &amp;quot;Toto&amp;quot; Cuffaro, was
in January 2008 banned from public office  for five years for mafia favours - could have an important
&lt;a href=&quot;http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB120760093089595927-rC2CzCxfbHs1CuweP7KO02K3o5Y_20080508.html?mod=tff_main_tff_top&quot;&gt;role&lt;/a&gt;. So, too, could the leftwing rainbow alliance of communists and
greens.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
However, the big question over any post-election
negotiations, one that is currently taxing the minds of leading commentators,
is whether a &amp;quot;grand coalition&amp;quot; between Berlusconi&amp;#39;s and Veltroni&amp;#39;s coalitions
will be attempted and under what conditions. Despite denials from both camps
that they would enter into such a post-election deal, rumours have persisted
throughout the campaign and unofficial soundings are thought to be taking place
between the two parties. In order to get its economy going again, Italy needs
more transparency, legality and an opening up of its institutions to allow
greater competitiveness.  It needs to
build a new consensus for reform, and the prospect of involving figures from
outside politics - such as business leader &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.confindustria.it/Conf2004/DbDoc2004.nsf/%28all%29/DDFB73773A654388C1256FAB00340923?Opendocument&amp;amp;MenuID=6AD28F7445DE127CC1256FAB005706A7&quot;&gt;Luca di Montezemolo&lt;/a&gt; or moderates of the centre-right such as
Franco Frattini - is now becoming a real one. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Silvio Berlusconi is known to be reluctant to
carry on in a situation similar to that of Romano Prodi two years ago, when the
ex-president of the European commission had a majority of only two in the
senate and had to rely on the support of the life-senators. Yet Berlusconi is
essentially a man of power and he will want to leave his mark in any
post-election deal. &lt;a href=&quot;/democracy_power/politics_protest/italy_veltroni&quot;&gt;Walter Veltroni &lt;/a&gt;will surely see the opportunity of a grand
coalition as a test of his statesmanship and the chance to drive through
reforms. Veltroni&amp;#39;s objective now must be to isolate Berlusconi and break from
his stifling influence; such a strategy presents Italy&amp;#39;s only road to recovery and
stability. It would also surely meet with the approval of most of Italy&amp;#39;s
European allies. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
However, when Berlusconi has in the past
forged deals with his opponents, he has normally outfoxed them or altered the
rules of the game. Any prospect of lasting reform in Italy requires the marginalisation
of this ageing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0411/p06s02-woeu.html&quot;&gt;salesman&lt;/a&gt; and a break from the culture of illegality
and short-termism that has marked his years in power. Italy cannot
afford to let him set the agenda any longer.
&lt;/p&gt;
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