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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Hi,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Here are my thoughts at end day 1 of the experiment of how we can get this annotation done:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. if you have a moment to devote to the Digest project, go to the group bookmark page to see where we have got to in the annotation process:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://groups.diigo.com/o_d-digest-_-future-of-the-internet-annotation/bookmark&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
http://groups.diigo.com/o_d-digest-_-future-of-the-internet-annotation/bookmark&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Click on the top bookmark link, which will take you to the page of the JZ book that is being annotated&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. read the digest notes up to that time to understand where the argument is (best is by using the Diigo &quot;Comment&quot; view that you get to by clicking the Comment button on the toolbar&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;3. once you get to an un-annotated paragraph, add your note...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This way, the next person will take up where you&#039;ve left off.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I realise this requires the notes to be quite good - so that you can really get a sense of the argument by reading the notes. If you can no longer follow the argument at some point, click on the note in question to have it take you to the text. Add a better note if you think a better one is needed.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hope this works, and please keep the suggestions coming on how we can make the process useful.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m still working on styling a page on oD where we can read the Digest. And keep the commentary coming on the other group.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;dl&gt;&lt;dt&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://yupnet.org/zittrain/archives/6&quot; class=&quot;eTitle&quot;&gt;The Future of the Internet2014And How to Stop It » Introduction&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/dt&gt;&lt;dd&gt;
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		&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSContent&quot;&gt;iPhone is object of desire&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSTail&quot;&gt;   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.diigo.com/user/tony%20curzon%20price&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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	&lt;/li&gt;
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	&lt;ul class=&quot;eSUL&quot;&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSContent&quot;&gt;Apple II was a generative box whose success depended on others&amp;#39; additions to it, like VisiCalc&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSTail&quot;&gt;   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.diigo.com/user/tony%20curzon%20price&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;
	&lt;/li&gt;
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	&lt;ul class=&quot;eSUL&quot;&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSContent&quot;&gt;Apple II was open for tinkerers and hobbyists, unlike the iPhone&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSTail&quot;&gt;   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.diigo.com/user/tony%20curzon%20price&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;
	&lt;/li&gt;
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	&lt;ul class=&quot;eSUL&quot;&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSContent&quot;&gt;iPhone needs Apple permission before you can tinker; Apple can remote modify it; it is a controlled system.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSTail&quot;&gt;   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.diigo.com/user/tony%20curzon%20price&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;
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		&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSContent&quot;&gt;The dark side of openness - viruses, spam, crashes - makes the closed philosophy of the iPhone attractive to consumers.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSTail&quot;&gt;   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.diigo.com/user/tony%20curzon%20price&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;
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		&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSContent&quot;&gt;iPhone / Apple II story is representative of the Internet: it is moving form the open to the tethered, the generative to the controlled.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSTail&quot;&gt;   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.diigo.com/user/tony%20curzon%20price&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;
	&lt;/li&gt;
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	&lt;ul class=&quot;eSUL&quot;&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSContent&quot;&gt;The original PC is a blank slate.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSTail&quot;&gt;   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.diigo.com/user/tony%20curzon%20price&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;
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	&lt;ul class=&quot;eSUL&quot;&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSContent&quot;&gt;Boxed appliances are fine, but they endanger the NEXT ROUND of innovation --- innovation-types they themselves were dependent on in the past.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSTail&quot;&gt;   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.diigo.com/user/tony%20curzon%20price&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;
	&lt;/li&gt;
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	&lt;ul class=&quot;eSUL&quot;&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSContent&quot;&gt;When there is separation of PC ownership and use, interests diverge: stability versus &amp;quot;wilderness&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSTail&quot;&gt;   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.diigo.com/user/tony%20curzon%20price&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;
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	&lt;ul class=&quot;eSUL&quot;&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSContent&quot;&gt;As long as a PC can run code it is given, and especially with broadband connectivity, the dangers are there, and are serious.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSTail&quot;&gt;   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.diigo.com/user/tony%20curzon%20price&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;
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	&lt;ul class=&quot;eSUL&quot;&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSContent&quot;&gt;These dangers add support for lockdown and interference by the surveiling centre --- with all the dangers this implies in authoritarian states.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSTail&quot;&gt;   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.diigo.com/user/tony%20curzon%20price&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;
	&lt;/li&gt;
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	&lt;ul class=&quot;eSUL&quot;&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSContent&quot;&gt;Lockdowns and box-appliances will destroy the creativity of IT, and to stop this happening we&amp;#39;ll need new technologies, communities that sustain the right ethos and a sense of public purpose.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSTail&quot;&gt;   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.diigo.com/user/tony%20curzon%20price&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;
	&lt;/li&gt;
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	&lt;ul class=&quot;eSUL&quot;&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSContent&quot;&gt;The everlasting battle will be between open, Web 2.0 systems and services and &amp;quot;bottled power&amp;quot; as exemplified by the iPhone.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;eSTail&quot;&gt;   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.diigo.com/user/tony%20curzon%20price&quot;&gt; &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;
	&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;/dd&gt;&lt;/dl&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;OK, here are the results of my day 1 reading:&lt;br /&gt;
http://groups.diigo.com/o_d-digest-_-future-of-the-internet-annotation/bookmark&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You&#039;ll see there is 1 bookmark with &quot;26 Expand&quot; on the right.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Click the &quot;expand&quot; button, and read the yellow-rimmed boxes. That is my digest of the Introduction.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Alternatively, go to&lt;br /&gt;
http://yupnet.org/zittrain/archives/6&lt;br /&gt;
and click on the &quot;Comments&quot; button in your diigo toolbar.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You can read the body of the comments just scrolling down the column in your right hand browser pane.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(I&#039;ll try to work up some sparser views of all this to put on the oD site.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do join in (message 6 in this thread), or if any of this is confusing, drop me a line.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tony&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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JZ has written an important new book: &amp;quot;The Future of the Internet (and how to stop it)&amp;quot;.
The PDF can be &lt;a href=&quot;http://futureoftheinternet.org/static/ZittrainTheFutureoftheInternet.pdf&quot;&gt;downloaded here&lt;/a&gt;, and you can &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0300124872?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=jonatzittr-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=9325&amp;amp;creativeASIN=0300124872&quot;&gt;buy it here&lt;/a&gt;
But it has a beautiful HTML edition &lt;a href=&quot;http://yupnet.org/zittrain/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.
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This really inspires me to do something I&amp;#39;ve been looking for an opportunity to do for a long time --- do a group online annotation of an important book. If you&amp;#39;d like to join in, please &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:tony.curzonprice@opendemocracy.net&quot;&gt;email
me&lt;/a&gt; and I&amp;#39;ll tell you how we&amp;#39;ll go about it.
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I blogged a lecture I saw JZ give on the topic, &lt;a href=&quot;/blog/tony_curzon_price/from_zittrain_to_aristotle_in_600_words&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. You can see the passion the subject aroused by looking at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/03/09/1545248&amp;amp;from=rss&quot;&gt;Slashdot&lt;/a&gt; thread it provoked. This is important stuff.  
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It will center around using &lt;a href=&quot;http://diigo.com&quot;&gt;diigo.com&lt;/a&gt;, rather than the note-taking feature on the HTML edition, because of diigo&amp;#39;s nice research-centered features.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:tony.curzonprice@opendemocracy.net&quot;&gt;Email me&lt;/a&gt; to join in --- when we&amp;#39;re done we&amp;#39;ll have a digest of the book and a trace of our commentary and opinion.
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