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 <description>&lt;p&gt;The thing that I&#039;ve always dreamed of was to go in Tibet, so see the tigers! Really, that&#039;s my dream! If it would be possible, I&#039;d like to raise one. I saw a clip on utube, about a couple who raised a lion since he was little, but had to let him go in the wild, and afterwards they wanted to see his reaction after a couple of years.. and imagine what happened when they encountered.. the lion practically embraced them, it was a very touching scene..I guess it&#039;s gonna be a &lt;a rel=&quot;follow&quot; href=&quot;http://www.squidoo.com/google-massacre-online&quot;&gt;google massacre&lt;/a&gt; when people will start searching it.&lt;/p&gt;
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What &amp;quot;lie&amp;quot; is he talking about?
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Western media lies and Chinese media lies.  So you will believe Chines media.  Good for you.  Mao would be proud.
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;
When the Lhasa
incident of 14 March 2008 occurred, rumours were spreading all over the streets
even as the Chinese media kept its usual silence. For several days, the Chinese
media carried only the brief bulletins and speeches from the leaders of the
Tibetan Autonomous Region. In the bulletins, there was only one description of
the incident: &amp;quot;Recently, a small number of people in Lhasa engaged in assaulting, vandalising,
looting and arson.&amp;quot;  This was just
an ordinary, brief news item. But the people can tell from the strong condemnations
of the &amp;quot;Dalai Lama clique&amp;quot; that this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,541561,00.html&quot;&gt;incident&lt;/a&gt; was no small thing, and therefore they set
out to find out more. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Chang
Ping&lt;/strong&gt; (the writerly name
of Zhang Ping) is a Chinese &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.ifeng.com/article/1371855.html&quot;&gt;blogger&lt;/a&gt;. He was formerly deputy chief editor of the &lt;em&gt;Southern Metropolis Weekly&lt;/em&gt; magazine.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ching
Peng published this &lt;a href=&quot;http://zonaeuropa.com/200804061.htm&quot;&gt;column&lt;/a&gt; on the sources of news about Tibet - &amp;quot;How to find the truth about Lhasa?&amp;quot; - on 3 April 2008.
It was revealed on 6 May 2008 that he had been &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSPEK15387820080506&quot;&gt;fired&lt;/a&gt; from his job &lt;/span&gt;Many people, basing their efforts on past
experience, obtained additional information from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economist.com/opinion/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10880709&quot;&gt;overseas media&lt;/a&gt;. At around the same time, several forum posts
and videos that exposed fake reporting by overseas media appeared and gained
popularity. This quickly became an internet incident in which Chinese citizens
angrily condemned the western media. Several websites appeared with names such
as &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.anti-cnn.com/&quot;&gt;anti-CNN&lt;/a&gt;,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;anti-BBC&amp;quot; and
&amp;quot;anti-VOA&amp;quot;.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;An
angry current&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Chinese netizens compiled information
indicating that certain media in countries such as Germany,
United States, United Kingdom and India had made clear factual errors
in their reporting. From the viewpoint of journalistic professionalism, these
errors were very wrong, even deliberately misleading. Although some media
outlets have issued apologies and corrections, the damage from the inaccurate
news was already done, and the Chinese people find this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2008-04/20/content_6629688.htm&quot;&gt;hard&lt;/a&gt; to forgive. Like any kind of fake news, the
damage is first and foremost to public trust in the media itself, because ten
thousand truths cannot undo one lie. But if in the reporting of the Lhasa incident (as well
as other major incidents), the Chinese media is not allowed to report freely
and the overseas media are suspect, then where is the truth going to come from?
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some of the &lt;a href=&quot;/article/democracy_power/china/netizens_and_tibet_a_guangzhou_report&quot;&gt;netizens&lt;/a&gt; who had exposed the fake reporting by
overseas media claimed that they wanted to use their action to show the truth
about Lhasa to
the world. This assertion is logically incorrect, because their actions can
only let people see that the western media are not reporting the truth
accurately.  But what happened in Lhasa?  Most Chinese people have only seen the unified
press release issued by their government several days later. When the news
comes from a single exclusive source, I cannot say that it is fake but I cannot
accept that it is true either.  The
overseas media have mostly described this as &amp;quot;the truth that the Chinese
government has carefully scripted&amp;quot;. After the government organised a &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7315895.stm&quot;&gt;visit&lt;/a&gt; to Tibet by a group of overseas
journalists, their reports were mostly not translated into Chinese.  But given the fervour of the campaign to condemn
the western media, not many people would believe those reports even if they
were translated.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;Also in &lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&lt;/strong&gt;
on China&amp;#39;s tensions over Tibet and the Olympics:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Li Datong, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy_power/china_inside/beijing_olympics_china_politics&quot;&gt;Beijing&amp;#39;s Olympics, China&amp;#39;s
politics&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (22 August 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Kerry Brown, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/beijing_s_political_tightrope_walk&quot;&gt;Beijing&amp;#39;s political
tightrope-walk&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
(12 March 2008)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Gabriel Lafitte, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/china/democracy_power/tibet_revolt&quot;&gt;Tibet: revolt with memories&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (18 March 2008)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jeffrey N Wasserstrom, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/the_perils_of_forced_modernity_china_tibet_america_iraq&quot;&gt;The perils of forced modernity:
China-Tibet, America-Iraq&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (27 March 2008)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Donald S Lopez, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/china_democracy_power/how_to_think_about_tibet&quot;&gt;How to think about Tibet&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (28 March 2008)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Dibyesh Anand, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/china/globalisation/tibet_china_clash&quot;&gt;Tibet, China, and the west:
empires of the mind&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
(1 April 2008)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ivy Wang, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/democracy_power/china/netizens_and_tibet_a_guangzhou_report&quot;&gt;China&amp;#39;s netizens and Tibet: a
Guangzhou report&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
(8 April 2008)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wang Lixiong, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/china_and_tibet_the_true_path&quot;&gt;China and Tibet: the true path&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (15 April 2008)&lt;/span&gt;The anger is still &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.danwei.org/internet/southern_metropolis_chang_ping.php&quot;&gt;spreading&lt;/a&gt;. Anti-CNN.com may state that: &amp;quot;We are
not against the media themselves; we are only against the unobjective reporting
done by certain media outlets; we are not against western people, but we are
against bigotry.&amp;quot; The facts, however, are different. Many netizens have
gone to the opposite extreme. Indeed, in many ways they started from there.
They do not care if the news is objective and fair; they do not care if the
media hold certain positions; biases are not totally unacceptable; rather, the
key is just which side you are on.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;A
deeper gaze &lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
If the netizens genuinely care about news
values, they should be doing more than &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.redorbit.com/news/technology/1313721/tibet_chinas_cyberspace_media_campaign/&quot;&gt;exposing&lt;/a&gt; the false reports of the western media; they
should also be challenging the control by the Chinese government over news
sources and the Chinese media. There is no doubt that the harm from the latter
is even worse than the former. When individual media outlets make fake reports
about real events, it is easy to correct because just a few meticulous Chinese
netizens can &lt;a href=&quot;http://zonaeuropa.com/20080326_1.htm&quot;&gt;do the job&lt;/a&gt;. When media control is exercised by the state authorities, the whole
world is helpless.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Certain Chinese citizens have seen that fake
reporting and biases are not the most scary thing. In an open opinion-field
with adequate revelations and discussions, there will always be the opportunity
to reach truth and justice.  The
successful counterattack by the netizens against overseas media this time is a
very good example. The first people to notice and react were Chinese students &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/chinas-cheerleaders-take-to-the-streets-812656.html&quot;&gt;based overseas&lt;/a&gt;. Their exposés were freely circulated on the
internet, and the YouTube presentation was red-hot. But if these internet media
had been restricted, it would have been much more difficult to expose the
story.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The biggest harm to news values by these fake reports is that many people have chosen to abandon their trust in objectivity
and fairness and hence seek refuge in narrow &lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-china/nationalism_3456.jsp&quot;&gt;nationalism&lt;/a&gt;. They draw the conclusion that talk of
universal values is all a deceptive trick used to cover up underlying national
interests.  They even say that it is
standard international practice to tell lies, and therefore they forgive the
lies around them (now and in the past). True, these people were thinking this
way even before the &lt;a href=&quot;/article/china/democracy_power/tibet_questions_of_revolt&quot;&gt;Lhasa incident&lt;/a&gt;, but the latest media incident has given them
a piece of evidence for use in propagandising to others.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
It is also clear that many Chinese people have
taken this opportunity to engage in broader discussions and deeper thinking.
They have found out that the bigotry of the western people against China is based
upon a sense of cultural superiority. But this discovery carries a warning
message: when the Han people &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hurstpub.co.uk/bookdetails.asp?book=72&quot;&gt;face&lt;/a&gt; China&amp;#39;s ethnic minorities, do they
have the same cultural superiority that leads to bigotry? The distorted western
reports about China
came from an unwillingness to listen and understand because they are too
engaged in the sort of orientalism that &lt;a href=&quot;/node/1516&quot;&gt;Edward Said&lt;/a&gt; wrote about. But what about the Chinese themselves, and China&amp;#39;s ethnic
minorities?  If we use nationalism as the
weapon to resist the westerners, then how can we persuade the ethnic minorities
to abandon their nationalism and join mainstream nation-building? The Dalai
Lama asked the Chinese government to reassess him, so what kind of person is he
really? Apart from the official government &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2008-04/02/content_7901044.htm&quot;&gt;position&lt;/a&gt;, will the media be permitted to discuss the
matter freely and uncover more truths?
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