mark.kingwell on "A question of moral legitimacy"

mark.kingwell — Thu, 08 Mar 2007 15:43:07 +0000

Not kidding, and know what I'm talking about: I have the badge in front of me as I write. Can't speak to why you couldn't find it.

kwatt on "A question of moral legitimacy"

kwatt — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 19:59:54 +0000

The LIE:

From his article "Iraqis Adrift"

Although the United States started the war by claiming it was seeking to disarm Saddam Hussein, the Bush administration quickly shifted its stated aims to humanitarian ones; the war would create a better life for Iraqis.

Bush's humnitarian goals were clearly stated from well before the war, as this excerpt from the conclusion of his UN speech demonstrates:

Events can turn in one of two ways. If we fail to act in the face of danger, the people of Iraq will continue to live in brutal submission.

The regime will have new power to bully and dominate and conquer its neighbours, condemning the Middle East to more years of bloodshed and fear.

The regime will remain unstable - the region will remain unstable, with little hope of freedom and isolated from the progress of our times.

With every step the Iraqi regime takes toward gaining and deploying the most terrible weapons, our own options to confront that regime will narrow.

And if an emboldened regime were to supply these weapons to terrorists allies, then the attacks of 11 September would be a prelude to far greater horrors.

Taking a stand

If we meet our responsibilities, if we overcome this danger, we can arrive at a very different future.

The people of Iraq can shake off their captivity. They can one day join a democratic Afghanistan and a democratic Palestine inspiring reforms throughout the Muslim world.

These nations can show by their example that honest government and respect for women and the great Islamic tradition of learning can triumph in the Middle East and beyond.

And we will show that the promise of the United Nations can be fulfilled in our time.

Neither of these outcomes is certain. Both have been set before us.

We must choose between a world of fear and a world of progress.

We cannot stand by and do nothing while dangers gather. We must stand up for our security and for the permanent rights and the hopes of mankind.

By heritage and by choice, the United States of America will make that stand.

And, delegates to the United Nations, you have the power to make that stand, as well.

Thank you very much.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2254712.stm

woody672 on "A question of moral legitimacy"

woody672 — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 18:52:13 +0000

"The regimental badge of the 5th Special Forces Airborne, whose responsibilities include the Persian Gulf region, is available as a pendant at the clothing chain Urban Outfitters. No kidding.)"

I couldn't seem to find it. I guess you where kidding or didn't know what you were talking about

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