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 <title>Phill on &quot;Change is in your pocket&quot;</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;From a purely historical point of view, it&#039;s leopards that form the Her Majesty&#039;s coat-of-arms, not lions. Edward I made this addition.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Helen on &quot;Change is in your pocket&quot;</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;http://search.petitions.pm.gov.uk/kbroker/number10/petitions/search.lsim?ha=1157&amp;amp;sc=number10&amp;amp;qt=new+coins&lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
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 <title>Helen on &quot;Change is in your pocket&quot;</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;It would be worth signing the e-petitions  just to see what kind of response you receive once they have closed ;o) (the Government emails you with a response, outlining what action they will take or explaining why no action would be needed.) At least these petitions highlight that these coins were not the best choice out of 4,000 competition entries!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>David on &quot;Change is in your pocket&quot;</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;As I argued in&lt;a href=&quot;http://britologywatch.wordpress.com/2008/04/03/new-british-coins-time-for-change/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; my deconstructionist critique&lt;/a&gt; of the new coinage, there are (at least) two ways you can read them: 1) as - literally - emblematic of the break up and fragmentation of the UK in a process of &lt;i&gt;change&lt;/i&gt; that does not yet &#039;add up&#039; or equate to the old / desired unity (the 88p of the six smaller (denomi)nations not adding up mathematically to the &#039;oneness&#039; of the pound on which the entirety of the crest is figured); or 2) as indeed symbolising the necessity and strength of the Union, as none of the separate &#039;pieces&#039; that partially represent the constituent parts of the UK are complete until they are put together into the image of the (re)united kingdom.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Either way, it&#039;s a bit ironic that a collection of coins that&#039;s meant to celebrate the United Kingdom causes so much controversy and dissatisfaction in every part of it! Equally, I wonder if the Mint have realised that they&#039;ve probably started off a world-wide craze to collect all seven coins with the same year on them, which will doubtless see millions of the things leaving the country in the hands of delighted tourists, or forever rotting in the coin collections and piggy banks of the &#039;nation&#039;. Well, at least it&#039;ll keep the Mint busy pumping out the things. Oh yes, it&#039;s in Wales, isn&#039;t it? That&#039;ll guarantee steady employment for a while - maybe that&#039;s the real Welsh connection!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;David, aka Britology Watch&lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Michael Langstrom on &quot;Change is in your pocket&quot;</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;A clever observation! &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&quot;...the symbolism of the United Kingdom’s coinage. I expect the two pound coin will have a bloody big Union Flag on it, with Gordon Brown’s head on the reverse side.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All I can say is Ha ha ha ha ha ha ... ROTFL!!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Gareth Young (Brighton) on &quot;Change is in your pocket&quot;</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;From a purely aesthetic point of view I think they look great.  But there is a certain irony in the symbolism of the &lt;i&gt;United&lt;/i&gt; Kingdom&#039;s coinage.  I expect the two pound coin will have a bloody big Union Flag on it, with Gordon Brown&#039;s head on the reverse side.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Yanks disparagingly refer to Canadian notes as monopoly money.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
 <pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
 <dc:creator>Gareth Young (Brighton)</dc:creator>
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 <title>Change is in your pocket, </title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Felix Cohen (London, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opendemocracy.net/&quot;&gt;oD&lt;/a&gt;):&lt;/strong&gt; Change is afoot, both here and across the Pond. Except more literally here. The Royal Mint has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.royalmint.com/newdesigns/designsRevealed.aspx&quot;&gt;announced &lt;/a&gt;the introduction of new coins designed by Welsh designer Matthew Dent (more on his Welshness shortly).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://ourkingdom.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/newdesignsrevealed.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://ourkingdom.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/newdesignsrevealed.jpg?w=468&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; width=&quot;468&quot; height=&quot;150&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Meanwhile, in the States, the new $5 bill is soon to be launched. It&#039;s so ugly I don&#039;t even want to put it in this article, but you can see it &lt;a href=&quot;http://gethelveticaoffourmoney.com/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. The dollar bill has always been something of an accessibility problem; people with poor sight find it hard to differentiate between the notes, which are not significantly differently sized or coloured (unlike the wonderfully accessible and ornate British notes). So the addition of a big, ugly, Helvetica numeral in the bottom right corner probably does help somewhat, but at the expense of eye-bleeding ugliness. (nota bene: I&#039;m not a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.subtraction.com/archives/2006/0913_what_everyon.php&quot;&gt;Helvetica hater&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Anyway, back to the British coinage, which is a numismatic wonder. What you may not be able to see from the image above is that the coins, when arranged just-so, form the Royal Arms.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.royalmint.com/web/MultimediaFiles/NEWDESIGNSFORMATION.JPG&quot; alt=&quot;Coins in Royal Arms&quot; /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Which is stunning; and a very modern, precise design for the Mint to have suggested. The shield of the Royal Arms, however, seems to be a surprising choice for a Welsh designer, as it leaves out any Welsh emblematics (for &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_coat_of_arms_of_the_United_Kingdom#Other_nations_in_the_United_Kingdom&quot;&gt;historical reasons&lt;/a&gt;): covering instead, clockwise from bottom left, the harp of Ireland, the 3 lions passant of England (also in the bottom right) and the Scottish Lion Rampant. No leeks, no Dragons.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Now, I&#039;m just a design nut, so when Anthony first suggested to me that there is something more deeply significant here, I was nonplussed. Reflecting on the design later, though, I can see it. The fragmentation of the Royal Shield across the new coinage (which one imagines will be in service for at least a few years) is rather symptomatic of a devolved, parliamentarily separated UK. Even though the £1 coin, the most valuable of the collection, shows the complete shield, each other coin only shows fragments of our country&#039;s identity.It&#039;s emblematic, therefore, not so much of a United Kingdom, but of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/apr/07/britishidentity.communities&quot;&gt;government&#039;s struggle&lt;/a&gt; to come to terms with what Britishness means; a citizens summit sans Northern Ireland, a new coinage sans the Welsh, though of course never ignoring the Scots, who hold Labour&#039;s future in their hands. Gordon&#039;s Britain is like these coins; from a distance, it forms a lovely jigsaw puzzle, seen close up, the pieces don&#039;t fit and every edge has gaps.&lt;/p&gt;

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