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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2008/06/speculation-con.html&quot;&gt;Mark Thoma&lt;/a&gt; has a good summary of yesterday&amp;#39;s econ-blogosphere debate on the speculation question.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; He ends up on the question of what single cause can account for the run-up in both agricultural products and oil prices.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am not sure he should be such an ardent &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam&amp;#039;s_Razor&quot;&gt;Occamist&lt;/a&gt; here - compare these 2 graphs, of oil and wheat prices this year, and ask what sort of common explanation you might want:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scrnshots.com/users/tonycurzonprice/screenshots/19470&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://s3.amazonaws.com/scrnshots.com/screenshots/19470/ScrnShotsDesktop-1214468946_large.png&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scrnshots.com/users/tonycurzonprice/screenshots/19466&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://s3.amazonaws.com/scrnshots.com/screenshots/19466/ScrnShotsDesktop-1214468758_large.png&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; If you prefer numbers, look at this ScotiaBank Commodity price index.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.scrnshots.com/users/tonycurzonprice/screenshots/19462&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://s3.amazonaws.com/scrnshots.com/screenshots/19462/ScrnShotsDesktop-1214468481_large.png&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Agriculture basket is in full deflation, while the storables are all still growing strongly. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe the common point is something like this. The portfolio managers piled into everything that wasn&amp;#39;t a credit derivative between August 2007 and Feb 2008. In the case of not-very-storables, they found that the self-reinforcing loop between future prices and spot prices was weak, and so moved on. But with oil and other non-agricultural commodities, storability and market power allows the game to go on.&lt;/p&gt;
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