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 <description>&lt;p&gt;China is not the only country in the world to censor the media. Over the years free countries have censored the media. In America the media were nearly stopped by the army from investigating claims regarding communists being deported from the USA. Government censorship is prevalent in all forms of media be it traditional or new and has been going on for years. This is not just a Chinese problem it is an everyday global problem that needs to be addressed. The 9/11 investigations were censored as have countless other reports to our own media. If our media cannot scrutinize and investigate these reports to their full extent are we not being hypocritical? Should we not striving to allow our media full freedom instead of this dictated freedom it is currently operating under and once we achieve this our attention should be turned to liberating the Chinese media.&lt;/p&gt;
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Hu Jintao, general-secretary of the Chinese
Communist Party (CCP) and thus the country&amp;#39;s most powerful leader, has once
again been lauded by the official media for a performance which &amp;quot;received
worldwide attention&amp;quot;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;Li Datong&lt;/strong&gt; is a Chinese journalist and a former
editor of &lt;em&gt;Bingdian&lt;/em&gt; (&lt;em&gt;Freezing Point&lt;/em&gt;), a weekly supplement of
the &lt;em&gt;China Youth Daily&lt;/em&gt; newspaper Among
Li Datong&amp;#39;s recent articles in &lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&lt;/strong&gt;:
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy_power/china_inside/beijing_olympics_china_politics&quot;&gt;Beijing&amp;#39;s Olympics, China&amp;#39;s
politics&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (22 August 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/democracy_power/china_inside/media&quot;&gt;China&amp;#39;s media
change: talking with Angela Merkel&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (6 September 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/democracy_power/china_inside/new_history_old_politics&quot;&gt;Shanghai: new history, old
politics&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (19 September 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/china_from_the_inside/democracy_power/china_leadership_new_generation&quot;&gt;China&amp;#39;s leadership: the next
generation&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (3 October 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/democracy_power/china_inside/dynasty_reform&quot;&gt;China&amp;#39;s communist princelings&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (17 October 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/democracy_power/china_inside/youth_league&quot;&gt;China&amp;#39;s Youth League faction: incubus of power?&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
(31 October 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/democracy_power/china_inside/china_age_of_expression&quot;&gt;China&amp;#39;s age of expression&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (14 November 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/china_from_the_inside/china_modernisation&quot;&gt;China&amp;#39;s modernisation: a unique
path?&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (28 November 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/china_inside/taiwan_china_truth&quot;&gt;Taipei and Beijing: attitudes to
historical truth&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (12 December
2007) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/china_inside/china_protests_or_politics&quot;&gt;Xiamen: the triumph of public
will&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (16 January 2008) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/china_inside/chinas-soft-power-failure&quot;&gt;China&amp;#39;s soft-power failure&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (16 May 2008) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/governments/china-and-the-earthquake&quot;&gt;China and the earthquake&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (2 June 2008)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/china-after-the-quake-the-debate&quot;&gt;China: after the quake, the
debate&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (16 June 2008)
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The occasion for this encomium was a &lt;a href=&quot;http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200701/24/eng20070124_344445.html&quot;&gt;visit&lt;/a&gt; made by Hu to the &lt;em&gt;People&amp;#39;s Daily&lt;/em&gt; on 20 June 2008, to mark the newspaper&amp;#39;s sixtieth
anniversary. One of the pre-planned features of the visit was that the
general-secretary would go online at the newspaper&amp;#39;s website, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.people.com.cn/&quot;&gt;www.people.com.cn&lt;/a&gt;, and have a short &amp;quot;webchat&amp;quot; with members of
the public. This was the first time that a senior party official had publicly
engaged with internet users. There was no real &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article4198310.ece&quot;&gt;substance&lt;/a&gt; to the online conversation, but it was
symbolic: it showed that the party has finally and formally acknowledged that
the internet is an important source of public information and opinion. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
An internet user made the point well: &amp;quot;It&amp;#39;s
great that Hu has gone online to look at what the public think. It shows the
country&amp;#39;s leaders know that newspapers, television and government reports don&amp;#39;t
represent true public opinion. Wen Jiabao has &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/2008-05/13/content_6682114.htm&quot;&gt;criticised&lt;/a&gt; the misappropriation of grain by officials during
an inspection tour in Henan;
journalists have revealed that actors are employed specifically to impersonate
everyday citizens in TV interviews. After such revelations, all Chinese people
know that you can&amp;#39;t find out what people ‘really&amp;#39; think even by interviewing
people at the grassroots. To really understand the public&amp;#39;s views, going online
is the best choice.&amp;quot;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Indeed, there has been a sudden increase
recently in the number of senior officials claiming to be regular net-surfers.
Wen Jiabao says he goes online everyday; Hu Jintao himself &lt;a href=&quot;http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90001/90776/90785/6433952.html&quot;&gt;said&lt;/a&gt; during his webchat that &amp;quot;through the web I
want to know what netizens are thinking about and what their opinions are&amp;quot; and
that &amp;quot;we pay great attention to suggestions and advice from our netizens&amp;quot;.  In the wake of the &amp;quot;black kiln&amp;quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.danwei.org/blogs/in_search_of_the_missing_kiln.php&quot;&gt;case&lt;/a&gt; in Shanxi,
where children were found to be working as slaves, former Shanxi governor Yu Youjun ordered his subordinates
to go online every day to observe the public mood. The new party secretary of Guangdong, &lt;a href=&quot;/article/democracy_power/china/party_congress&quot;&gt;Wang Yang&lt;/a&gt;, has even posted in forums using his real
name and has invited people to criticise him. All this is refreshing to hear. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The opinion virus&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
It seems uniquely Chinese that true public
opinion is to be found not in newspapers or on TV, but online. In western
democratic countries, where internet usage became widespread far earlier than
in China,
it is rare to hear of officials and leaders needing to go online to see what
the public thinks. Why is this? Because in the west, television and newspapers
are full to the brim every day with opinions. Criticism of the government and
politicians comes in a constant stream, and protests and demonstrations are
commonplace. There is therefore no real need for a leader to go online
specifically to find out about public opinion. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In purely numerical terms, the media in China are quite
developed. There are over 3,000 newspapers, 10,000 magazines and at least 100 television stations broadcasting on several hundred channels. Why is
such a vast media apparatus incapable of representing public opinion? The
answer is simple: the censorship departments do not allow the Chinese media to
fully reflect public opinion. Public opinion exists, but it needs to find other
outlets. As the nature of the technology makes control of the internet difficult, the net has became the most
effective arena for the Chinese public to comment on national affairs (see
David Bandurski, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://cmp.hku.hk/2008/07/03/1086/&quot;&gt;Information openness&amp;#39; a growing
topic for China&amp;#39;s media&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, China Media Project,
3 July 2008).
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
However, even the internet is facing a
troubled future in China
in the face of controls from the propaganda department. This department has ruled that no website has the right to gather
news on its own account; websites can only publish news collected by the tightly
controlled traditional media. Even reports from some traditional media outlets
are not allowed to be reproduced online - there is a list of approved outlets
whose work can be used. This means that the news reports online are no
different from those in the traditional media. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
There are forums in which people post
information and articles from various sources of their own. These posts are
able to criticise the powers that be. As long as the authorities could not come
up with a way of controlling these forums, Chinese &lt;a href=&quot;http://telecomseurope.net/article.php?id_article=5753&quot;&gt;internet users&lt;/a&gt; enjoyed a
happy period of freedom of expression (see &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://jmsc.hku.hk/blogs/circ/about/&quot;&gt;China and the Internet: Myths and Realities&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, Chinese Internet Research Conference, 13-14
June 2008).
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The party&amp;#39;s voice&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This freedom is now under threat. China has
established a huge online police force, which patrols the net, issuing orders
for removal of all information or opinions that it believes to be &amp;quot;harmful&amp;quot;
(see Mure Dickie, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ft.com/cms/s/bda7cc42-4206-11dd-a5e8-0000779fd2ac,Authorised=false.html?_i_location=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.ft.com%252Fcms%252Fs%252F0%252Fbda7cc42-4206-11dd-a5e8-0000779fd2ac.html&amp;amp;_i_referer=http%253A%252F%252Fchinadigitaltimes.net%252F2008%252F06%252Fbeijing-orders-tighter-media-controls%252F&quot;&gt;China Orders Tighter Media
Controls&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, &lt;em&gt;Financial Times&lt;/em&gt;, 24 June 2008). The police do not have the
resources to inspect all of the vast mass of online information, so they make
use of modern technology which will not allow posts containing &amp;quot;sensitive&amp;quot;
words to be published. The list of sensitive words changes constantly, and
posts containing the words are automatically blocked. Hu Jintao is probably not
aware that his own name is often classified as sensitive. To get around the
problem, internet users are forced to replace the characters of Hu&amp;#39;s name with
similar-sounding, but different-looking, characters. One such variation on Hu&amp;#39;s
name has the unfortunate meaning, &amp;quot;tight condom&amp;quot;.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;Among &lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&amp;#39;s
&lt;/strong&gt;articles on China in 2008:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Kerry Brown, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/beijing_s_political_tightrope_walk&quot;&gt;Beijing&amp;#39;s political
tightrope-walk&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (12 March 2008)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jeffrey N
Wasserstrom, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/the_perils_of_forced_modernity_china_tibet_america_iraq&quot;&gt;The perils of forced modernity:
China-Tibet, America-Iraq&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (27 March 2008)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Robert Barnett, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/china/democracy_power/tibet_questions_of_revolt&quot;&gt;Tibet: questions of revolt&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (4 April 2008)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wenran Jiang, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/china/democracy_power/tibetan_unrest_chinese_lens&quot;&gt;Tibetan unrest, Chinese lens&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (7 April 2008)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Ivy Wang, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/democracy_power/china/netizens_and_tibet_a_guangzhou_report&quot;&gt;China&amp;#39;s netizens and Tibet: a
Guangzhou report&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (8 April 2008)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Wang
Lixiong, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/china_and_tibet_the_true_path&quot;&gt;China and Tibet: the true path&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (15 April 2008)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
James A Millward, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/governments/how_china_should_rebrand_0&quot;&gt;China&amp;#39;s story: putting the PR
into the PRC&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (18 April 2008) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jeffrey
N Wasserstrom, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/institutions/china-s-political-colours-from-monochrome-to-palette&quot;&gt;China&amp;#39;s political colours: from
monochrome to palette&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (14 May 2008) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Susan Brownell, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/the-olympics-civilising-legacy-st-louis-to-beijing&quot;&gt;The Olympics&amp;#39; ‘civilising&amp;#39;
legacy: St Louis to Beijing&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (23 May 2008) &lt;/span&gt;Websites, unlike traditional media, are not
&amp;quot;the voice of the party&amp;quot; and most do not receive government investment, so how
can the authorities &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/editors/22088/&quot;&gt;deal with&lt;/a&gt; those that break the rules? (see James Fallows, &amp;quot;&amp;#39;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200803/chinese-firewall&quot;&gt;The Connection Has Been Reset&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#39;&amp;quot;, atlantic Monthly, March 2008). One way is to
threaten to shut them down - regardless of whether or not this is legal. The
government has also &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=24609&quot;&gt;employed&lt;/a&gt; large numbers of &amp;quot;internet commentators&amp;quot;:
people who &lt;a href=&quot;http://zonaeuropa.com/20050521_2.htm&quot;&gt;pose&lt;/a&gt; as ordinary internet users and post comments
aimed at &amp;quot;guiding public opinion&amp;quot;. These people are paid per post, earning
themselves the nickname &amp;quot;the fifty-cent party&amp;quot; See &amp;quot;China hires Net squad to sway
opinion&amp;quot;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.asiamedia.ucla.edu/article.asp?parentid=24609&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Times
of India&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, 20 May 2005). 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
A newspaper from Henan province, the &lt;em&gt;Jiaozuo Daily&lt;/em&gt;, recently reported that
the local government had mobilised 120 such people to comment on a single
online post, and in the end had &amp;quot;succeeded in guiding public opinion&amp;quot; (see &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://cmp.hku.hk/2007/07/05/423/&quot;&gt;Guidance of Public Opinion&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, China Media Project). If that was not enough, it was later
discovered that the people who chatted to Hu Jintao were in fact stooges. Hu
himself was tricked by the internet police, and only saw two or three
sycophantic questions from planted sources. I have seen many of the questions from
internet users that did not reach Hu, and can confirm that many contain sharp
criticism. These questions represent true public opinion, but did Hu ever get
to see them? I strongly doubt it. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The media trap&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Senior Chinese officials have an extremely
tiring job - so tiring that some in the foreign media have called them
&amp;quot;supermen&amp;quot;. One of the main reasons for this is that leaders often cannot get
hold of accurate information, and therefore find it hard to make effective
policies. The only way to find the truth is to make a personal tour of
inspection at the grassroots. However, not even this method is reliable. As
soon as local officials hear that national leaders are coming to visit, they
carefully plan every last detail of the trip. They make sure that all locals
are singing from the same song-sheet, and sometimes officials even camouflage themselves as
members of the public. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Almost every member of the current leadership
has been tricked in this way. The only way around it is to unleash &amp;quot;surprise
attacks&amp;quot;. Wen Jiabao has been known to tell drivers that he needs to use the toilet so
that he can be let out of the car and walk to poverty-stricken villages which
have had no time to prepare for his visit. In fact there is no need to resort
to such measures. If the government gave the media the right to report and
investigate effectively, leaders could read the truth in the newspapers while
sitting in their offices. This would be far easier and more accurate than
making hurried trips to areas where a veil of obfuscation is drawn over the
truth. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
For China&amp;#39;s leaders to go from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?book_id=5737%2520&quot;&gt;seeing the internet&lt;/a&gt; as a dangerous &amp;quot;unstable element&amp;quot; which needs to be tightly
controlled, to seeing it as a source of truthful information on public &lt;a href=&quot;http://pewresearch.org/pubs/776/china-internet&quot;&gt;opinion&lt;/a&gt;,
is a form of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;amp;task=view&amp;amp;id=1279&amp;amp;Itemid=158&quot;&gt;progress&lt;/a&gt;. But there is a paradox here: leaders are
aware that a clear understanding of public opinion improves their legitimacy,
while at the same time their own censorship departments are twisting or
shutting out true public opinion. If this paradox is not reolved, the
authorities will never really know what the public thinks, and will become an
object of public ridicule again and again.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;This article was
translated from Chinese by Chris Allen &lt;/em&gt;
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