Dougthedug on "The arrest of Omar Ahmet"

Dougthedug — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:58:46 +0000

Nobody was prosecuted for the murder of Jean Charles de Menezes even though the whole operation was a cock-up from start to finish.

Jean Charles de Menezes was never positively identified as a terrorist and the threat he presented was never properly assessed. To blow something up you need a bomb and he was neither carrying a bag nor wearing a bulky coat to conceal some form of body belt.

The Command and Control in the Police was non-existent and in the end you had a hyped-up mob of armed policemen who killed him because he looked suspicious and the idea of calm, cool, professional elite was shown to be a total sham both in terms of the men holding the guns and in the behaviour and abilities of those directing the operation.

If anyone thinks that Omar Ahmet is going to get any recompense for being roughed up when the establishment let the police walk away from murder in the case of Jean Charles de Menezes then they live in a fantasy world.

The UK is a state where extra-judicial killings are tolerated as long as the police play the terrorist card whenever they kill someone, terrorist or not.

Omar was lucky to live.

The arrest of Omar Ahmet, Stuart Weir

Stuart Weir — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:29:35 +0000

Stuart Weir (Cambridge, Democratic Audit): Just imagine being ready to drive off to work when an unmarked white van pulls up, armed police pour out and while one policeman smashes a side window of your car, the others drag you and push you to the ground a hand-gun pressed against the back of your head - five days after armed police have shot dead the innocent Jean Charles de Menezes! (The Guardian has CCTV footage of the arrest here)

This was the terrifying ordeal that the entirely innocent Omar Ahmet had to go through having been identified as a possible terrorist suspect by a worker at the hotel where he had stayed the night. The worker had telephoned the Merseyside police after seeing a photo of the suspect in a newspaper and told them that he was "85 per cent" certain that Ahmet was the man. Ahmet is a fair-skinned man of Cypriot heritage; the wanted terrorist was a black Eritrean. He had lodged car rental documents and his credit card with his home address in Maidenhead with the hotel.

Not unreasonably Ahmet believed that the police should have checked him out before subjecting him to such an ordeal and complained to the Independent Police Complaints Commission, who have just concluded that the arrest was lawful and the police conduct "reasonable" on "The available evidence . . ." The judgement is marked restricted.

Is it just me, but I find the police conduct to be an entirely unreasonable consequence of the heightened atmosphere of fear over the "war on terror" that is stoked up just as much by the government and much of the police response as it is by the dangers of terrorism? I do not know how long it takes to set up the operation as it is described and how much was devoted to thorough investigation of his credentials and distinctly different skin colour (Ahmet was filmed on the hotel's CCTV footage which the police had viewed).

The case is all the more shocking as Ahmet decided to make it public after media coverage of armed police arresting a suspect at Bournemouth train station, who was also spreads-eagled on the ground at gun point. It is not just the police who have a case to answer. So does the IPCC.

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Dougthedug on "The arrest of Omar Ahmet"

The arrest of Omar Ahmet, Stuart Weir