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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Steve, thanks for your comments.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Re: &quot;the &quot;corrupt Middle Eastern regimes&quot; opposed by al Qaeda are those that have brought peace and prosperity to their people by joining the modern world rather than lashing out at it.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I assume that you, like me, live in a capitalist democracy where, for the most part, we can say what we want.  I think many people in Egypt for instance where Hosni Mubarak has ruled uncontested for almost 27 years may feel a bit differently.  How long can &quot;emergency rule&quot; last?  Torture, one party elections and arbitrary arrests are commonplace.  Ditto Saudi Arabia, Syria, Algeria and the list goes on.  People are naturally pissed off so they&#039;ll get behind the only groups that stand up for them: the Islamists.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not that Al-Qaida would be any different if they were in charge, necessarily, but they are feeding off this desire for some kind of justice.  So for an Arab there might just be &quot;some form of dire and unacceptable provocation&quot; since the &quot;modern world&quot; imposed these states on them.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The fact that the West props up men like Mubarak (and calls them democrats!) benefits states in North America and Europe exclusively apart from the local elite.  People in the Middle East are not stupid and can see hypocrisy for what it is.  Colonialism and injustice live on and therefore so do groups like Al-Qaida (even though I share your skepticism of their commitment to a truly just society).  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Not everyone benefits from the modern world or to use another word civilization.  Many people, myself included, recognize that civilization is on a destructive course because humans are now altering the face of the earth and changing the climate with our industrial emissions.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The mighty towers of industrial civilization are not worth it if we ruin our ecological foundation by building them.  But alas that&#039;s another issue but the problem of civilization is the real issue that we should all be wrestling with, not terrorism.&lt;/p&gt;
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Thom, re this:
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&lt;em&gt;I encourage you to study the communiques of Al-Qaida (I have little&lt;br /&gt;
familiarity with other Islamist groups). An interesting book is&lt;br /&gt;
Messages to the World: The Speeches of Osama bin Laden. Islamists like&lt;br /&gt;
bin Laden are not irrational and use violence merely for its own sake;&lt;br /&gt;
this is George W. Bush&amp;#39;s analysis and has no place here. Islamists have&lt;br /&gt;
clear political goals such as liberating Palestine and removing foreign&lt;br /&gt;
forces from Saudi Arabia and overthrowing corrupt Middle Eastern&lt;br /&gt;
regimes. Violence is a tool to achieve these goals. &lt;/em&gt;
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If you&amp;#39;ve studied the communiques of al Qaeda, you surely know that until very recently the liberation of Palestine has been notably absent from that organization&amp;#39;s list of priorities, and it&amp;#39;s generally accepted that this issue has never been a major factor in al Qaeda&amp;#39;s development.
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You may also be aware that the foreign forces in question were removed from Saudi Arabia years ago, and that the &amp;quot;corrupt Middle Eastern regimes&amp;quot; opposed by al Qaeda are those that have brought peace and prosperity to their people by joining the modern world rather than lashing out at it.
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The notion that terrorists &amp;quot;&amp;quot;want to watch the world burn&amp;quot; may be simplistic and flawed, but the notion that they are responding to some form of dire and unacceptable provocation is completely insupportable. 
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&lt;em&gt;«The Dark Knight unmasks the crisis of values in which America, and the west more widely, finds itself at the beginning of the 21st century. Cultural theorists portrayed the late 20th century in terms of &amp;quot;the postmodern condition&amp;quot;: an era in which traditional values, identities and social institutions were disintegrating and being replaced by proliferating narratives, conflicting truth claims and multiple identities»&lt;/em&gt;
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I keep reading this bizarre concept (the western &amp;quot;crisis of values&amp;quot;) over and over again, on the web, on books, on media, and i still don&amp;#39;t get it. I suppose I live in a different planet... As mr. Steven rogers puts it,  I also «can&amp;#39;t personally imagine a philosophical strain more thoroughly removed from the day to day experience of the average individual...»
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Traditional values? What traditional values? Are we talking religious morality here? Judaic-Christian values, as opposed to a more secular frame of values? Is that it?
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Sure, the western world faces a whole lot of challenges, problems and crisis, some of them from within, that&amp;#39;s true and we need to solve them, as we are, democracy is a work in progress and, as I see it in my live experience and in our colective historical experience, it&amp;#39;s actually getting better. Not as fast as we might wish, but for someone who studies History, it&amp;#39;s plain obvious that It&amp;#39;s not getting worse...
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This narrative of doom and decadence is, in my opinion, rooted in a distorted analysis of reality. As to violence, I could point out to a interesting conference from mr. Stephen Pinker on Ted Talks, for instance. It might shed some light in some gloomy heads. 
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Sure, technology development gave us the potencial for total destruction, and the world is still full of dictatorships, real corruption and bad governance (from Africa to Russia, passing through China, Venezuela or Iran) but the fact is that humanity, mostly in the western world, never experienced such levels of cooperation, solidarity, health, confort and prosperity. The peace we experience in Europe for over 50 years, due in my opinion mainly to the retrieval of religion and ideologies from the front stage of public live, is an unprecendent and extraordinary event in our thousands year history! 
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In our western streets, for example, crime isn&amp;#39;t a rule, it&amp;#39;s an exception, overly dramatized by the media or the film industry, just so eager to satisfy the people&amp;#39;s morbid atraction for things such as violence, maniqueist narratives, the bizarre, jokers, darknights...
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&lt;p&gt;Maybe I&amp;#39;m beeing over simplistic, but I simply don&amp;#39;t buy that &amp;quot;crisis of values&amp;quot; theory...&lt;/p&gt;
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[...edited...] I enjoyed the film so I can appreciate the analysis.
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However I&amp;#39;m disappointed that the author associates the Joker with radical Islamists.  Both just &amp;quot;want to watch the world burn&amp;quot; as the author quotes the film.&lt;br /&gt;
Hardly.  I encourage you to study the communiques of Al-Qaida (I have little familiarity with other Islamist groups).  An interesting book is Messages to the World: The Speeches of Osama bin Laden.  Islamists like bin Laden are not irrational and use violence merely for its own sake; this is George W. Bush&amp;#39;s analysis and has no place here.  Islamists have clear political goals such as liberating Palestine and removing foreign forces from Saudi Arabia and overthrowing corrupt Middle Eastern regimes.  Violence is a tool to achieve these goals.&lt;br /&gt;
Similarly, the US and other western governments have goals and they to use violence, in more extreme ways than any Islamist could dream, to achieve them.  Just think of the sanctions and invasion of Iraq or the 21st century re-colonization of Haiti.&lt;br /&gt;
Despite what we think of our own innocence, we in the west are indeed terribly violent.  We should get away from the television and take a good long look.  Much like the Joker&amp;#39;s scarred face, we might not like what we see there.
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 <pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 23:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>Cathy Fitzpatrick on &quot;The dark (k)night of a postmodern world&quot;</title>
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This is all pretty overwrought stuff. The institutions didn&amp;#39;t quite disintegrate as much as you think, and may reform more than you are prepared to admit.
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Zizek is a known Marxist-Leninist, and while his critiques are always interesting, they always fall back on the same stale ideological principles that have already been massively repudiated in his part of the world and elsewhere, which usually involved an enlightened committee planning everything for everyone else -- only now with a fictional &amp;quot;social media participation&amp;quot; overlay on to the essentially Bolshevik plan.
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Here&amp;#39;s a stark question you have to ask. Who does most of the killing in Iraq? If it were the U.S., or if we had more atrocities from the U.S. than we&amp;#39;ve already had -- and we&amp;#39;ve certainly had some -- then, it would be easier to rally &amp;quot;the masses&amp;quot; to dislodge these evil imperialists. But...they aren&amp;#39;t the terrorists firing on police recruit lines, planting teenage suicide bombers, mining roads to kill passers-by, massacring the professional class. Those are other factions, some hooking up to Al-Qaeda. So as always, while you rant and fume about the creeping authoritarianism of those who are trying to fight terrorism, and we get it, what *is* your plan for fighting terrorism, in the end? Why *do* those terrorists get a pass?
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 Study the clash of civilizations carefully, and see which side is doing most of the clashing.
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 Cathy Fitzpatrick
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 http://3dblogger.typepad.com/un_tethered
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http://3dblogger.typepad.com/ngo_accountability
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 <title>Not logged in Lawrence Efana on &quot;The dark (k)night of a postmodern world&quot;</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Tina Beattie takes readers into a political arts gallery where the &quot;fictive&quot; characters are &quot;Batman and Joker&quot; in a poker [chess] game. A social construction, not at all ruined by analogies somewhat well fitting and yet interrelates with what could be the options from the overall insanity. Isn&#039;t nihilism neither being a batman nor joker? Where should value-relativism be fitted, thinking of existentialism and the reality of experiment, particularly with change amidst human imperfections?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Much is being said about the moral bankruptcy of our democratic practices, in spite of the cumulative resources of enlightenment. This is where the &quot;irony&quot; of politics in modern time is troubling. Beattie&#039; s paper is &quot;talking movies&quot; with it, and so no surprise, it is &#039;theatrical&#039;, &#039;satirical&#039;, &#039;cryptic&#039;, and &#039;aphoristic&#039; - a painting act of humans on the &quot;horns of a dilemma&quot;, well spelled out in, as she puts it  &quot;the prisoners&#039; dilemma&quot;. It is more or less &quot;fictive&quot;, see: Steven Rogers &quot;An interesting flight of fancy&quot;, simultaneously as there is a good flesh of political reality captured; see, Tony: &quot;Batman and Joker share not only nihilism, but also a personal individual potency....&quot;; and again Steven Rogers: &quot;but isn&#039;t it a bit stretch to assume that the mutterings of postmodern theorists are actually an accurate reflection of modern life&quot;. Don&#039;t these reflect the battle between nihilism and value-relativism even in the fictive form?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As we face the forth-coming US presidential election, a poker or chess politics too abstract for readers and evaluators - call some of them commentators], could frustrate democracy, especially if change must be appreciated! How do Batman and Joker relate to reinvention of democracy? What would dynamism mean to them? How challenging is value-relativism to nihilism and what about the reality of having to make choices paramount for existentialism? Reinvention arose when realism, idealism and utopia merged as values, which then changed the faces of party politics: clustering them at the center. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The extent that arts and paintings give insights to human dynamism could be subject to where the paint is thick and where it is thin and why in each case. The emergence of interests for modern politics keen to oversee the singular align with the plural, careful of rational choice for lessons of neo-liberalism, I guess everyone agrees is worthy of experiment with the types of credentials we see! Batman and Joker are fictive characters to reconstruct modern democratic politics in the face of the continuous deconstruction and reconstruction efforts of observers and writers - why the world we live in is active!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lawrence Efana [Finland]&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Tina,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am sorry, the film was horrible, I did not enjoy it at all, and would have left 20 minutes into it if not for my friends. I wish it did portray extreme fundamentalism,I am fully aware of the defects of the modern world, it&#039;s contradictions and indifference to human suffering, all I have to do is turn on the T.V., I have travelled the world and seen the &#039;other.&#039;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I dont need a film to tell me that. As far as I am concerned, the threat of extremism is not only found in Islam, but in American Evangelists. Your article is more interesting than the movie, the movie being way too political and trite. The way the world is today is because people over react, especially the Americans, and now here come the French to take their place! god help us. Their knee jerk reactions has put us all in danger, they lack communicative skills in working with other cultures, and always blow everything out of proportion, like this batman movie. For the Americans, everything is extreme, they are so caught up in themselves and refuse to look at things more objectively, that  is the problem! This and that threat, enough!&lt;/p&gt;
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The belief in &amp;quot;self-sacrifice as a silver bullet&amp;quot; is very deeply implanted in our culture and perhaps our species - the core drama of the Christian religions provides an excellent example - and it is true that it makes for better drama than policy.  It&amp;#39;s also worth considering that the belief in a silver bullet, with or without sacrifice, is often an obstacle to effective action.  The notion that a single set of policies or a single change in direction will address all problems simultaneously is an attractive pipe dream, but a very destructive one.
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Take, for example, the cited need to address climate change and poverty.  One of the great obstacles to this is the reality that these struggles carry different and sometimes opposite imperatives.  To fight poverty we must create jobs, which means more production of goods and services, which means that those goods and services must be consumed.  As poor people become less poor, they consume more.  To fight poverty we need an escalating spiral of production and consumption, which provides even greater challenges for the struggle against climate change.  Conversely, if we propose to combat climate change by reducing consumption, will this not impose constraints on production, and thus on employment?
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To manage these contradictions we need to abandon black/white thinking, understand tradeoffs and compromise, and think creatively.  The ideological rigidity we see at both ends of the political spectrum, rooted in belief in a &amp;quot;silver bullet&amp;quot;, is nothing but an obstacle.  We see the same sentiments on both sides, from the environmental movement (&amp;quot;part of the solution or part of the problem&amp;quot;) and the Bush administration (&amp;quot;with us or against us&amp;quot;).  It is this sort of thinking, rooted as much in blind idealism as in nihilism, that paralyzes us. 
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 <pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Batman and Joker share not only a nihilism, but also a personal, individual potency. This is a sharp contrast to many of our deepest political problems. Take climate change - there is neither a batman nor a joker in that story; just me and you and everyone together. No one person can imagine a self-sacrifice that will solve that problem. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The belief in self-sacrifice as a silver bullet seems to me to be shared between the suicide terrorist -- as thoroughly explored, for example, in Camus&#039; Les Justes, where the anarchist bomber takes on the nom-de-guerre Raskalnikov, after Dostoyevski&#039;s similarly confused murderer of Crime and Punishment -- and the batman hero. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What we need to address climate change and poverty is a notion that what we all together do is important, even where there is no individual potency. The problem of the &quot;legitimation of authority&quot; does not, I think, go through all of us becoming just a bit batman-like. It goes through the rediscovery of the category of what we all together do. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But that, of course, does not easily make for a great box-office.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;tony&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;An interesting flight of fancy, but isn&amp;#39;t it a bit of a stretch to assume that the dark mutterings of postmodern theorists are actually an accurate rflection of modern life.  I can&amp;#39;t personally imagine a philosophical strain more thoroughly removed from the day to day experience of the average individual...&lt;/p&gt;
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Forget the gadgetry and stunts in Christopher
Nolan&amp;#39;s brooding Batman film, &lt;em&gt;The Dark
Knight&lt;/em&gt;. Clever though they are, they are only the visual props for a
multi-layered philosophical reflection on our post-9/11 world, scripted by Nolan
and his brother Jonathan. Shortly after seeing the film I read Slavoj Žižek&amp;#39;s essay, &amp;quot;Whither Oedipus?&amp;quot; (contained in his book &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.versobooks.com/books/tuvwxyz/xyz-titles/zizek_subject.shtml&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Ticklish Subject&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;), and I was struck
by the resonances between Žižek&amp;#39;s theory and Nolan&amp;#39;s film. If what follows titillates your appetite, then I recommend you
take a deep breath and plunge into Žižek&amp;#39;s infuriating,
obscurantist and elliptical writings, to discover their shards of gleaming
insight into the times we live in. What follows is indebted to him, although it
is my own interpretation of the film - one which also reveals details of its narrative,
such that potential viewers may prefer to defer their readerly
gratification....
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&lt;span class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.roehampton.ac.uk/business/consultants/consultantbeattie.html&quot;&gt;Tina Beattie&lt;/a&gt; is reader in Catholic studies, Roehampton
University, England. Among her books are &lt;a href=&quot;http://bt.yahoo.com/&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;God&amp;#39;s Mother, Eve&amp;#39;s Advocate&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;(Allen
&amp;amp; Unwin, 2002), &lt;a href=&quot;http://semcoop.booksense.com/NASApp/store/Product;jsessionid=am1CGCxhB7o4PyMe5Y?s=showproduct&amp;amp;isbn=0415301483&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;New Catholic Feminism: Theology and Theory&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;(Routledge
2005), and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.darton-longman-todd.co.uk/book_details.asp?bID=450&amp;amp;bc=0&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The New Atheists&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;em&gt; &lt;/em&gt;(Darton, Longman &amp;amp; Todd, 2007). Her
website is &lt;a href=&quot;http://tina.beattie.googlepages.com/&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also by Tina Beattie in &lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&lt;/strong&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/faith-europe_islam/pope_jihad_3914.jsp&quot;&gt;Pope Benedict XVI and Islam:
beyond words&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (17 September 2006)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/faith-europe_islam/veil_islam_4026.jsp&quot;&gt;Veiling the issues: a distractive
debate&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (24
October 2006)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-blair/religion_britain_4234.jsp&quot;&gt;Religion in Britain in the Blair
era&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (10
January 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/globalization-institutions_government/christian_africa_4347.jsp&quot;&gt;Religion&amp;#39;s cutting edge: lessons
from Africa&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (14 February 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/faith_ideas/the_new_atheists&quot;&gt;The end of postmodernism: the
‘new atheists&amp;#39; and democracy&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (20 December 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/faith_ideas/europe_islam/sharia_law_uk&quot;&gt;Rowan Williams and sharia law&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (12 February 2007)&lt;/span&gt; 
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&lt;strong&gt;The two sides&lt;/strong&gt;
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&lt;em&gt;The Dark Knight&lt;/em&gt; unmasks the crisis of values in which America, and the west more
widely, finds itself at the beginning of the 21st century. Cultural theorists
portrayed the late 20th century in terms of &amp;quot;the postmodern condition&amp;quot;: an era
in which traditional values, identities and social institutions were disintegrating
and being replaced by proliferating narratives, conflicting truth claims and
multiple identities. For those secure and wealthy enough to enjoy the
opportunities presented and the illusory freedoms offered, it was a time of
parody and play; of irony and iconoclasm; of extravagance and experimentation.
But since 9/11, the postmodern fantasy has become more nightmare than dream, as
the rootless and drifting societies of the modern liberal democracies have come
under assault by the violent forces of radical Islamism, and have in turn
responded with war and the threat of war, and with new forms of terror and
torture, surveillance and repression. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This is not the clash of civilisations between
Islam and the west predicted by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.simonsays.com/content/book.cfm?tab=1&amp;amp;pid=408420&quot;&gt;Samuel Huntington&lt;/a&gt;, although liberals and
conservatives alike take refuge in this thesis because it offers at least some sense
of stability, an &amp;quot;us&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;them&amp;quot; scenario which still allows for goodies and
baddies, heroes and villains, the defenders of freedom and democracy against
the forces of fanaticism and fundamentalism. However, what terrifies us is the
dawning awareness that we are facing widespread social meltdown in which law
and anarchy, heroism and terrorism, sanity and madness, are becoming more and
more difficult to tell apart. It is this shifting, sliding, disintegrating
world that Nolan evokes in &lt;em&gt;The Dark
Knight&lt;/em&gt;. Gotham is the postmodern state and we are its citizens. The choices
we face are not those which are ranged around good and evil, right and wrong.
They are the vicious and dreadful dilemmas we face when our own survival is a
gamble which pits us against shadowy and unpredictable enemies who infiltrate
and infect all our social and political institutions with fear and mistrust. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Gotham City is plagued by the Joker (not, in
this film, explicitly identified as such), a role which Heath Ledger pushes to
a psychopathic extreme. Ledger&amp;#39;s untimely death is an unintentionally
paradoxical epilogue to a film full of paradoxes, intensifying the stunning
impact of his performance. His Joker is beyond the human, because he is outside
all the conventions and values upon which our understanding of the human is
formed. There is a moment early in the film, when the Joker first appears, when
a character says, &amp;quot;Criminals in this town used to believe in things.&amp;quot; This
Joker is an analogy for anarchic, suicidal terrorism - an elemental force
unconstrained by any glimmer of humanity, fear or vulnerability. It seems as if
we can identify no object, no goal towards which his desire is directed; so we
cannot placate him, bribe him, make deals with him, threaten him or subdue him.
In the words of Bruce Wayne&amp;#39;s loyal butler, Alfred (deftly portrayed by Michael
Caine): &amp;quot;Some men just want to watch the world burn.&amp;quot;  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The Joker&amp;#39;s invincibility rests not just on
his ruthless cunning but on his knowledge that he is unique in his absolute freedom,
not only from pain and the fear of death but from every human emotion or
attachment which might limit his destructive power. Witness his manipulation of
the sympathy of his victims as he explains how he acquired his ghoulish smile.
We, the audience, are similarly manipulated. Only slowly do we realise that we
have been &amp;quot;had&amp;quot;. Or have we? Do we still want to rescue the Joker from the
moral anarchy with which he confronts us? Do we want to believe that he is
damaged rather than evil, wounded rather than wicked? Do we find ourselves
incapable of staying in the psychopathic vacuum which his character represents,
the abyss of the human which forms the dark heart of our most primal desires?
This Joker simultaneously seduces and repels, fascinates and horrifies, and he
provides the inescapable force to which Batman&amp;#39;s own persona is tethered. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The relationship between Batman (Christian
Bale) and the Joker is one of mesmerising psychological complexity; it is not
entirely fanciful to imagine them as two sides of the same human coin. As the
Joker says to Batman, &amp;quot;I complete you.&amp;quot; The relationship between the hero and
the villain is here subverted and rendered deeply ambiguous. Just as the Joker
is a villain who does not observe even the basic rules of criminality by which
society might identify and punish him, so Batman is a hero who does not observe
even the basic rules of heroism so that society might recognise and glorify
him. The Joker is correct when he says that they are both &amp;quot;freaks&amp;quot;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;
Also in &lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&lt;/strong&gt;
on films and filmmakers:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Geoff Andrews, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/2982&quot;&gt;The life and death of Pier Paolo Pasolini&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (1 November 2005)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tom Nairn, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/globalization-Film/the_queen_3942.jsp&quot;&gt;The Queen: an elegiac prophecy&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (27 September 2006)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Emiko Ohnuki-Tierney, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/arts-Film/iwo_jima_4381.jsp&quot;&gt;Letters to the past: Iwo Jima
and Japanese memory&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (23 February 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Maggie Gee, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/arts-Film/babel_4255.jsp&quot;&gt;Babel: worlds within worlds&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (17 January 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Birgitta Steene, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/art_culture/film/bergman_sweden&quot;&gt;Ingmar Bergman and Sweden: an
epoch&amp;#39;s end&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (6 August 2007)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Patrice de Beer, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/film/calle_sante_fe&quot;&gt;Calle Santa Fé: between Chile
and freedom&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (16 January 2008) &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Grace Davies, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/5050/arts_cultures/4months_3weeks_2days&quot;&gt;One day of life: a Romanian
odyssey&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;
(13 March 2008)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Tarek Osman, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/article/art_culture/film/youssef-chahine-the-life-world-of-film&quot;&gt;Youssef
Chahine, the life-world of film&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; (29 July 2008)
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Indeed, at the end of
the film, Batman and the Joker are monstrous aliens outside the closed ranks of
the social order. But while the Joker is there willingly because of his own
calculating inhumanity, Batman is the scapegoat, the reluctant outcast who
takes upon himself the violence of society and its corrupted institutions, in
order that its illusions of law and order 
might be preserved. (Here, one must read &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.uibk.ac.at/theol/cover/girard.html&quot;&gt;René Girard&lt;/a&gt; as well as Žižek to tease out the philosophical implications of this theme). If there
is a messianic hint to this, it is one that is discovered not in some theology
of a transcendent God as law-giver and judge, but in the humanity of the
persecuted and reviled individual who sacrifices all in order to save people
from themselves. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The cost of freedom&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Batman&amp;#39;s vulnerable and compromised humanity
means that he is not a superhero. He must struggle with his inability to
predict or control the sometimes disastrous outcomes of his well-intentioned
actions. His refusal to violate his own ethical code allows the Joker to
unleash terrible destruction on the city which he has dedicated himself to
protecting. It is not entirely correct to say that the Joker has no
identifiable desire. He is driven by the desire to corrupt and destroy goodness
wherever he finds it, to show that, under extreme pressure, even the most noble
individual can become a torturer and a murderer. The psychological compulsion
of the film hinges on this dilemma - on power and its abuses, on the limits of
the law in the face of anarchic terror, on the fragility of goodness when
confronted by overwhelming evil. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This compulsion is exemplified when the Joker
infiltrates a police force already infected with corruption and apathy - where
the institutions which exist to protect the city have thus become its enemies,
and terror is a miasma which spreads mistrust through all levels of society.
The district attorney (DA), Harvey Dent (Aaron Eckhart), is a rare example of
courage and integrity in this institutional swamp, so that it seems as if he
might take over the role of Gotham&amp;#39;s protector, allowing Bruce Wayne to shed
the terrible burden of being Batman. But with an act of destructive genius, the
Joker turns Dent into a mutilated and murderous monster on a vengeful rampage
against the police force for the death of his lover, assistant DA Rachel Dawes
(Maggie Gyllenhaal), who is also the lifelong love of Bruce Wayne. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Thus Dent&amp;#39;s loss is also Wayne&amp;#39;s/Batman&amp;#39;s
loss, but while Dent abandons himself to the forces of vengeance and violence,
Batman retains his ultimate freedom to choose an alternative path. The film&amp;#39;s
final message - simultaneously tragic and redemptive - is the cost of such
freedom and the paradox at its heart. Even as Batman resists the system which
Dent represents, he must uphold its illusory moral authority, for the loss of
that authority would in itself be a capitulation to the forces of anarchy and
chaos. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The terror within&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This means that
Batman becomes the humiliated victim of society&amp;#39;s lust for vengeance, one who fits &lt;a href=&quot;http://zizekstudies.org/index.php/ijzs/index&quot;&gt;Žižek&amp;#39;s&lt;/a&gt; description of the victim of terror as &amp;quot;destitute, unable to recompose the narrative of his life.&amp;quot; This is what Žižek describes as &amp;quot;the monstrosity of
heroism, when our fidelity to the Cause compels us to transgress the threshold
of our ‘humanity&amp;#39;.&amp;quot; Batman&amp;#39;s fidelity to Gotham City demands his persecution and rejection by that
same city, his positioning of himself as the destroyer of the very values which
he is committed to defending, and his willingness to accept the role of the
excluded other which is the price for the city&amp;#39;s survival.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Žižek has this to say
of the hero figure: 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&amp;quot;In political terms, the difference between
classical tragedy and modern tragedy is the difference between (traditional)
tyranny and (modern) terror. The traditional hero sacrifices himself for the
Cause; he resists the pressure of the Tyrant and accomplishes his Duty, cost
what it may; as such, he is appreciated, his sacrifice confers on him a sublime
aura, his act is inscribed in the register of Tradition as an example to be
followed.&amp;quot;  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
However, in &amp;quot;the domain of modern tragedy&amp;quot;,
the sacrifice takes place not in the space of conflicting opposites - right and
wrong, good and bad - but in the context of moral quandaries in which, in order
to preserve what we depend upon, we must destroy our own dependence upon it,
our own place inside it. That is the terror. It arises not from any external
threat, but from &lt;em&gt;within&lt;/em&gt; the systems by
which we order our lives. We experience an irreconcilable conflict between the
symbolic order with its laws and institutions, its ethics and values (a value
system which is associated with and underpinned by a God of universal law and
order, of prohibitions and commands), and the individual imperative to act in
response to a different calling and a different form of divine command, in the
context of an &amp;quot;absolute singularity
that suspends the dimension of the Universal&amp;quot;. Žižek explores this in the context of &lt;a href=&quot;http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/kierkegaard/&quot;&gt;Søren Kierkegaard&amp;#39;s&lt;/a&gt; reading of the story of Abraham, but the same dilemma resonates
through &lt;em&gt;The Dark Knight&lt;/em&gt;. Like Kierkegaard&amp;#39;s Abraham, Nolan&amp;#39;s Batman
is &amp;quot;the knight of faith [who] dwells in the horrible domain beyond or between
the two deaths, since he (is ready to) sacrifice(s) what is most precious to
him&amp;quot;. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The order of the lie&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Yet &lt;em&gt;The
Dark Knight&lt;/em&gt; is not a story about divine laws and faith in transcendent if
conflicting imperatives. It is rather a film about two forms of nihilism, both
of which are consequent upon the disintegration of the truths of religion and
then of reason which underpinned the traditional social order and created trust
in its institutions and structures. &lt;em&gt;The
Dark Knight&lt;/em&gt; is played out in the context of what Ulrich Beck calls the &amp;quot;second Enlightenment&amp;quot; which, in Žižek&amp;#39;s interpretation, is &amp;quot;the exact reversal
of the aim of the ‘first Enlightenment&amp;#39;&amp;quot;: to bring about a society in which
fundamental decisions would lose their &amp;quot;irrational character and become fully grounded in good reasons&amp;quot;. But, suggests Žižek, &amp;quot;the ‘second Enlightenment&amp;#39; imposes on each of
us the burden of making crucial decisions which may affect our very survival
without any proper foundation in Knowledge.&amp;quot;  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;The Dark Knight&lt;/em&gt; explores this &amp;quot;second Enlightenment&amp;quot;, in which the disintegration of
universal reason and transcendent truth means that each of us bears the full
weight of moral responsibility for the decisions we make and the actions we
initiate, sometimes in the face of terrifyingly irrational forces. For example,
there is a breathtaking variation on what is known in game theory as the
Prisoners&amp;#39; Dilemma, when two shiploads of people must decide whether to blow up
the other ship and thus preserve themselves, or take a chance on neither side
activating the detonator and both dying. These are moments when ordinary
individuals must choose between two equally devastating options with no
knowledge to guide them and no absolute moral code to call upon. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In such
moments, the film does not offer us nihilism versus meaning, the lie versus the
truth. Rather, it offers us two different faces of nihilism - the nihilism of
meaninglessness, nothingness and futility represented by the Joker, or the kind
of nihilism we discover in Albert Camus&amp;#39;s novel, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.penguinclassics.co.uk/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9780141185132,00.html?The_Plague_Albert_Camus&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;The Plague&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, in which individual acts of goodness are our only
defence against futility and despair. Ultimately, the redemptive promise of &lt;em&gt;The Dark Knight&lt;/em&gt; depends upon the quiet
dignity of individual acts of courage, even - or perhaps especially - when
these are cloaked in the guise of the criminal and the outlaw. The will of the
people here is not the rational foundation upon which freedom and democracy are
built, as it was for the thinkers of the Enlightenment, but a brute force which
demands its own survival, whatever the moral cost. This is a parable for our
time, and the citizens of Gotham city give us a bleak insight into the moral
bankruptcy of democracy in a post-9/11 world. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The law-abiding,
morally complacent citizenry will condone extremes of violence as the condition
of its own self-preservation, while looking to politicians to manufacture the
mythical heroes and illusions of goodness which sustain its belief in its
institutions and identity. We want heroes, but for this we need scapegoats.
Here again, Žižek provides a lens through which to interpret the film&amp;#39;s message. We collude in our own deception because, although we know
that the political values which govern us are lacking in legitimate authority
and corrupted by abusive power relations, we still depend upon the legitimacy
they confer upon our actions and values. The symbolic order of modernity is &amp;quot;the big Other&amp;quot;, an empty and
foundationless illusion of power which we experience as a form of alienation
and repression, but nonetheless we are compelled to respect and obey its laws
and institutions, and so it is, to quote Žižek, &amp;quot;the order of the lie, of lying sincerely&amp;quot;. We invest in its symbols of authority and conform to its demands, even
as we recognise its degeneracy and its impotence. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The haunted space&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;The Dark Knight&lt;/em&gt; invites reflection upon the cost of survival and the limits of
goodness in a world of corrupted and decadent institutions, in which nonetheless
we have no alternative but to preserve and uphold those same institutions. The
Joker may be a metaphor for radical Islamism, but he is also the enemy within,
the annihilating impulse which is woven into the fabric of society and the
individual psyche, as its seductive and destructive other. Only our ability to
recognise and accommodate this chaos will enable us to avoid the Manicheism of
a world divided between good and evil, and to negotiate a space of fragile
survival within the corrupted and vulnerable institutions of our modern liberal
societies. We are bereft of viable alternatives. As John Gray has argued in his
book, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.randomhouse.ca/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780385662666&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Black Mass&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, post-Enlightenment
societies have been vulnerable to utopian and idealistic revolutionary urges
which have unleashed waves of destruction, for they too readily translate into
totalitarian and fascist regimes.  
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This then is the dilemma of our postmodern
condition. We know that the political and economic institutions upon which we
depend shelter behind a masquerade of legitimate authority which barely
conceals their deceitful and manipulative operations. The very agents who are
responsible for defending our freedoms and our securities have become agents of
repression and violence. But we also know that neither anarchy nor revolution
can deliver the society we long for, and therefore we must work to mend the
social fabric through individual acts of resistance and courage, recognising
that it is not capable of affording us the protection it promises. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;em&gt;The Dark Knight&lt;/em&gt; ventures into this haunted space of political and psychological
terror. It taps into our deepest and most unanswerable fears, the world of
adult nightmares in which there is no happy ending and no resolution, just an
unending and anguished question posed to each of us: who am I, what do I value,
and how far am I willing to go in order to feel safe, to belong, to survive? If
this is a question which presses upon each of us with growing urgency, it is an
unbearable question for that bright and hopeful politician, &lt;a href=&quot;/article/taking_obama_seriously&quot;&gt;Barack Obama&lt;/a&gt;. What
price is he willing to pay to become part of the system? And what price might
he yet have to pay to resist its corruption?
&lt;/p&gt;
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