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&lt;em&gt;MZ&lt;/em&gt;
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As any political movement having a relatively long history, feminism is tried by the fire of reality. Many women realised that fulfilling their dream by following the ideas of feminist writers and thinkers made their private life more difficult. Ideas tested by reality often dispose the other side of the cloth. This is where I see a certain hesitation to judge Palin by strict ideological measures. Don&amp;#39;t you think it is time to modify some of the feminist arguments as how to conduct life and provide direction for the coming decades?
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;The only real feminist in this election is Ralph Nader.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;It is grave indeed.  But how does a sister revisit feminism when there is not a realistic, consistent, accurate or any other historic/ cutural basis for defining what it means or what it is? I came of age in the seventies where there was a real diversity of race, religion, culture and class along Route 66 New Mexico.  I&amp;#39;m educated, worked for the USDA as a civil service employee for 15 years &amp;amp; had to resign to become a single mother. 8 years later I still don&amp;#39;t have work that utilize my skills. Hell. Walmart won&amp;#39;t hire me.I can not describe really what feminism is but I am pretty sure it is a concept concerning the fair, equitable, inclusive treatment of a group of people who would simply choose to do what they can or have the desire and potential to do.How to revisit feminism is like trying to revisit a ghost.  Some believe they are real, some believe but are afraid to admit they believe, but most are just plain in denial and that is the hardest ghost of all.Jan Lee MintonSW USA&lt;/p&gt;
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It is this kind of counter-strategy, worthy of feminist
acclaim and experiment, (and capable of setting a standard for the assessment
of all manner of candidates) - a politics of empowerment indeed - that seems so
lacking from the current discussion around Sarah Palin and the feminist vote.
Viewed from this perspective, for example, how do we judge her achievement when to become governor of
Alaska she ‘took on her own party&amp;#39;s good ole&amp;#39; boys and won&amp;#39;? Jonathan Raban&amp;#39;s
recent &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lrb.co.uk/v30/n19/raba01_.html&quot;&gt;account&lt;/a&gt; of
Palin&amp;#39;s rise (&lt;em&gt;Cut, Kill, Dig, Drill,&lt;/em&gt; LRB, 9
Oct) is more reminiscent of the inexorable and ruthless exercise in ‘power
over&amp;#39; of Brecht&amp;#39;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Resistible_Rise_of_Arturo_Ui&quot;&gt;Arturo Ui&lt;/a&gt;
than anything else. Who, after all, did she empower? If it was her church, then
according to some accounts, including &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080915_for_palin_its_a_christian_mans_world&quot;&gt;this
one&lt;/a&gt; from Chris Hedges, author of ‘&lt;em&gt;American
Fascism&amp;#39;, &lt;/em&gt;we are dealing with a textbook example of ‘gender
dichotomisation&amp;#39;:
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;
	&lt;p&gt;
	A cult of masculinity defines the Wasilla Assembly of God Church and the Juneau Christian Centre where she worshipped. This cult propagates a vision of the world where believers are warriors. They are taught to ready themselves to engage in a final
	cataclysmic clash with the forces of Satan. This cosmic struggle, infused with the language of war, death and violence, leads inevitably to the slaughter by the righteous of all
	non-Christians... It fosters a world of binary opposites... All in life is rigidly defined.
	Disorder and chaos are banished. Reality, when it is defined in these absolutes,
	is predictable and understandable, something deeply comforting to believers who
	have often had trouble coping with the messiness of human existence... The
	movement builds concentric male fiefdoms. They radiate out from the home. They
	do not permit revolt, discussion or dissent.
	&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;Read more on similar themes from 50:50&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;/democracy-resolution_1325/issue.jsp&quot;&gt;Resolution
1325&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;/globalization/podcast21_4663.jsp&quot;&gt;Nobel Women&amp;#39;s Initiative&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;/pathways/podcast/1&quot;&gt;Anne Marie Goetz
on Pathways of Women&amp;#39;s Empowerment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;/article/5050/16_days/war_sexual_violence&quot;&gt;Women
and War&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Such glimpses into the forms of power which have co-opted
Palin shed some light on the obscurity of ‘half a feminist vote&amp;#39;. But they do
more than this. They remind us of the true nature and scale of the Sarah Palin
challenge to American feminists in the run-up to this election. How could they
begin to engage with the one-quarter to one third of the US population, so many
of whom are women, who identify themselves as ‘born-again&amp;#39; evangelicals, and who,
as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.joebageant.com/&quot;&gt;Joe Bageant&lt;/a&gt; introduces them in his
riveting book, ‘&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2008/sep/06/5&quot;&gt;Deer Hunting with Jesus:
Guns, Votes, Debt and Delusion in Redneck America&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&amp;#39; are ‘white... and for
the most part working class&amp;#39;? Have American feminists taken these women and
their life experiences seriously? How would we set about doing this?
Of course, not all of these US citizens believe the script
of the hardcore end time fundamentalists as Bageant summarises it: 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;ul class=&quot;unIndentedList&quot;&gt;
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	&lt;p&gt;
	The United Nations is a tool of Antichrist. America
	alone must spread the gospel around the world
	&lt;/p&gt;
	&lt;/li&gt;
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	&lt;p&gt;
	There is no need to worry about the environment
	because we are not going to need this earth much longer
	&lt;/p&gt;
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	&lt;p&gt;
	Israel is to be defended at all costs and even
	encouraged to expand, because the Bible declares that Israel must rule all the
	land from the Nile to the Euphrates in order for End Times prophecy to be
	fulfilled
	&lt;/p&gt;
	&lt;/li&gt;
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	&lt;p&gt;
	God will provide a Christian
	leader to shepherd the American flock as they 
	become his chosen people to extend the
	gospel worldwide and rid the earth 
	of evil 
	&lt;/p&gt;
	&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Given the certitude of these
believers, it is a relief to hear Bageant echo approvingly the conviction that
when you get down to the guy in the church pew, ‘You will find that most
conservative evangelicals and fundamentalists do not want a theocracy and are
not inclined to civil war here or in the Middle East. Their intellectual and
political leaders may be, but most of the congregation just wants to pursue happiness
in pretty much the same way as everyone else. It is time to get to know our
neighbours.&amp;#39; In other comments he seems less hopeful, lamenting that whatever
the distinctions between the myriad fundamentalisms that define this
constituency, ‘they sure as hell share some of the same DNA&amp;#39;, and that talking
to them ‘sure as hell won&amp;#39;t be easy&amp;#39;. Paul Valleley, in his &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.counterpoint-online.org/cgi-site/biblio.cgi?action=detail&amp;amp;id=74&quot;&gt;essay&lt;/a&gt;
on ‘The fifth crusade: George Bush and the Christianization of the war in
Iraq&amp;#39;, is less equivocal. Describing in some detail the full-scale attack on
Israel heralding the Battle of Armageddon which End-Timers await, and the
Rapture which true-believers hold will rescue them from the general fate - he
insists that there are, &amp;#39;as many as eight million pre-millennial Christians in
America&amp;#39; for whom ‘Armaggedon is always just around the corner&amp;#39; and that,
&amp;#39;Their mindset has had a creeping influence on the way mainstream America
thinks about the world.&amp;#39;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Where both commentators agree is that those who do not
share such convictions, or should I say such a mind-set, must find a way of
taking them seriously. For this is a surreal worldview which has real global
implications. As feminists, facing up to the prospects of Palin for
Vice-President demands an act of imagination very different from the coy
anticipation of the ‘symbolic power of her success&amp;#39;, to repeat Chrystia
Freeland&amp;#39;s words, to which we have so far been treated. If Vallely is correct,
there is nothing symbolic about the influence this worldview already exerts on
an awesome US presidential power. After all, as Paul Rogers points out in an
openDemocracy &lt;a href=&quot;/article/global-security/a_mission_impossible&quot;&gt;column&lt;/a&gt;
which has long been the antidote to complacency, ‘In the fiscal year 2009, the
US military budget will be the largest in real terms since the second world war
- exceeding expenditure at the time of the Korean war (1950-53), the Vietnam
war (1965-75), or at the height of the cold war. It will also be larger than
that of every other country put together, even excluding direct war costs in
Iraq and Afghanistan.&amp;#39; There is nothing symbolic about that, or about US
encouragement for the militarisation of the Israeli state in a combustible
Middle East, or the warning President Sarkosy gave the Iranian government only
last month about the danger of nuclear escalation precipitating an Israeli
attack - these are real enough events in an ongoing hard power pursuit of national
interest where ‘hegemonic masculinity&amp;#39; has long held sway, without any extra
encouragement from rightwing Christian fundamentalism.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
In the same issue of the &lt;em&gt;FT &lt;/em&gt;which contained Freeland&amp;#39;s musings on Palin as ‘a true feminist
model&amp;#39;, Martin Wolf was making a rather different case. In a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/78274ce0-7917-11dd-9d0c-000077b07658.html&quot;&gt;piece&lt;/a&gt;
entitled, &lt;em&gt;What the presidential choice
could mean&lt;/em&gt;, his argument is this: that this US presidential election might
well determine the character of the next, possibly final, epoch of
Anglo-American global hegemony: and that the choice it offers the American
people ‘is between those who expect a world of conflict and those who believe
in seeking co-operation.&amp;#39; The
election contest takes place between two divergent elements in the
Anglo-American tradition: ‘The first instinct seeks enemies and the latter
deals. The former is manichean and the latter conciliatory.&amp;#39; McCain, Wolf
suggests, is ‘a warrior against evil&amp;#39;. His vision is ‘seductive, plausible and
dangerous. It is dangerous because it could
become a self-fulfilling prophecy. It is dangerous because, as the world
becomes smaller and the challenges of managing the global commons greater,
co-operation is essential.&amp;#39; He begins his article with the sentence, &amp;#39;We are
all Americans now.&amp;#39;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Here precisely is the debate that J.Ann Tickner and her
feminist colleagues in IR have prepared us for over the last two decades - a
debate that is not confined to American feminists and evangelicals, but that
has worldwide implications. It is one to which women - not least all those
caught up one way or another in what UNESCO has called the ‘21&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt;
century global &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economist.com/world/mideast-africa/displaystory.cfm?story_id=5220396&quot;&gt;epidemic&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#39;
of violence against women - have something particular, something different to
contribute. Why then are we so silent, now that it has arrived?
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Since the first flush of innovation, somewhere along the
road we have pursued to this crossroads, I believe we Anglo-American feminists
have taken a wrong turn. I think of it as a kind of swerve which set us on a
self-defeating course that at the time, at the end of the Cold War, perhaps
didn&amp;#39;t seem too important. But as the ‘war on terror&amp;#39; continues, to be joined
by a global recession that may convince many that Armageddon is indeed just
around the corner, we urgently need to revisit an old debate about women and
war, and retrace our steps from there. If at this point in my argument I sound
as if I am addressing an open letter to the sisters of my own generation in
particular - many of the most thoughtful of whom are on the list of
openDemocracy authors - I don&amp;#39;t deny it. But this discussion-opener is for the
men too, since it is also about their liberation, first and foremost from the
use of force.
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