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 <description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Evans - who described himself as a &quot;very right-wing disciplinarian&quot; - had strenuously recommended ID cards to Margaret Thatcher as a way to stamp out football hooliganism.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Probably showing my age here, but I remember well how we (Manchester United fans) used to circumvent the system and gain entrance to Kenilworth Road everytime our team played. It took planning, contacts and occasionally a bit of cash in certain backpockets, but at no time was there less than a 1000 Utd  fans very time we played there and ironically since we were scattered throughout the ground it was a more potentially dangerous situation than  if we had been concentrated in one part of the ground. There&#039;s probably a metaphor for the current, rather more wide-ranging debate.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 12:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;strong&gt;Guy Aitchison (London, &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;/ourkingdom&quot;&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;#610706&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;&lt;strong&gt;OK&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;strong&gt;): &lt;/strong&gt;Over at the Fabian Society blog, General Secretary Sunder Katwala, posts a short &lt;a href=&quot;http://nextleft2.blogspot.com/2008/10/david-evans-rip.html&quot;&gt;personal reflection &lt;/a&gt;on the career of David Evans - the Tory MP for Welwyn and Hatfield who died earlier this week - and reveals himself to have been an early opponent of ID cards and the fledgling database state. Evans - who described himself as a &amp;quot;very right-wing disciplinarian&amp;quot; - had strenuously recommended ID cards to Margaret Thatcher as a way to stamp out football hooliganism. All matches would be 100% members only, with membership serving as a self-contained identity card - a &amp;quot;crude piece of unConservative central control&amp;quot;, which, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/oct/24/conservatives&quot;&gt;Guardian obituary &lt;/a&gt;notes, &amp;quot;was a serious runner at the time.&amp;quot; 
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Sunder&amp;#39;s first taste of direct political action was collecting signatures against the football ID card scheme at Southend United. In the end it was the glaring holes in the scheme (nicely summed up by Ed Pearce in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2008/oct/24/conservatives&quot;&gt;Guardian&lt;/a&gt;), rather than the work of protestors, which led to it being dropped. But as we gear up for the issue of the first ID cards on 25 November - this time by a Labour government - it&amp;#39;s interesting to note that the head of the Fabians has a strong pedigree when it comes to opposing this intrusive and unwanted measure. 
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