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 <title>talon on &quot;Gaza: the Israel-United States connection &quot;</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;. Steve, You got that right, your concern for innocent civilians that are not combatants and are none of your concern. I am absolutely discussed with Israel and will remember this for a long time to come&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;What an exceptionally pedantic reply, you miss the point completely.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The author is not responsible for how you personally inerpret what constitutes &#039;war&#039; and what does not.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In reality, the Gaza Strip at this present moment is a battlespace.  The amount of civilians is of no consequence to the lexicon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regardless of your own personal viewpoint the forces of Israel are engaged in a military conflict with Hamas militants and thus any space occupied by either is a &#039;theatre of combat&#039; despite whatever trajedy befalls those within.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;The analysis is interesting. Still I would like to see the situation compared to the Warsaw ghetto during WW-II. The comparison is striking. Population a bit under 0.5 million. When the situation became unbearable resistance against occupants began and the ghetto was therefore destroyed completely. It seems that something similar is happening in Ghaza. Population 1.5 million, limitations on all activities and supplies making life unbearable. Will this ghetto also be destroyed in similar fashion? Traumas are both on individual and collective level repeated until they have been processed and healed.&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;A good piece but difficult to understand how the author can use the terms &#039;war&#039; and &#039;theatre of combat&#039; to describe the killing fields of the Gaza Strip. A bit too antiseptic when compared with the nightmarish reality on the ground. The Israelis have inflicted more damage on their own forces through friendly fire than the puny efforts of Hamas ever will. In the meantime, as per usual, the Geneva Conventions count for nothing in this latest manifestation of the &#039;war on terror&#039; which places little value on the lives of civilian Arabs. Maybe it&#039;s time to leave the peace and quiet of Bradford Prof. Rogers!&lt;/p&gt;
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting facts that are new to me of the military links between Israel and  the USA. I have been increasingly aware of and concerned at similar links between the UK and Israel&lt;/p&gt;
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The Gaza war moves into the middle of its
second week with Israeli ground forces driving &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7812136.stm&quot;&gt;further&lt;/a&gt; into the territory. The increasing civilian
death-toll and the deepening humanitarian crisis are &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/07/world/main4703553.shtml&quot;&gt;fuelling&lt;/a&gt; diplomatic attempts to halt the conflict. In
this poised situation, Israel&amp;#39;s military and political &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iht.com/articles/2009/01/07/africa/07military.php&quot;&gt;leaders&lt;/a&gt; are faced with the choice of whether to shift
their focus towards an early endgame or to intensify their campaign.&lt;span class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;Paul Rogers is professor of peace studies at
Bradford University, northern England. He has been writing a weekly &lt;a href=&quot;/author/Paul_Rogers.jsp&quot;&gt;&lt;u&gt;column&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/a&gt; on global security on &lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&lt;/strong&gt; since 26 September 20&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Among the options available to them is to move
towards a full-scale reoccupation of the whole of the Gaza strip. This may even
be deemed necessary - for despite a thousand Israeli airstrikes and formidable
artillery bombardments, Hamas is still launching forty or more rockets each day
towards southern Israel. In response, the Israeli government may have no other
option than reoccupation to avoid what could otherwise be seen by domestic
critics and government opponents as a failed operation (see Aluf Benn, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1053122.html&quot;&gt;Israel is on its way to
reoccupying all of the Gaza Strip&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, &lt;em&gt;Ha&amp;#39;aretz&lt;/em&gt;,
6 January 2009).   
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The chances of such a further extension of
Israeli war aims may recede if international pressure for a ceasefire increases
in light of (for example) the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.icrc.org/web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/htmlall/palestine-press-briefing-060109?opendocument&quot;&gt;assessment&lt;/a&gt; by the International Committee of the Red
Cross (ICRC&amp;#39;s) that a &amp;quot;full-blown humanitarian crisis&amp;quot; is unfolding, or more
civilian loss of life of the kind &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ioi_0jtO9RjMwPNRoXNCndRPRq3gD95HOON00&quot;&gt;inflicted&lt;/a&gt; on a school in Jabaliya refugee camp on 6
January 2009. Israel has responded to the voicing of concern over the
predicament of Gaza&amp;#39;s beleaguered people by &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5465106.ece&quot;&gt;announcing&lt;/a&gt;&lt;style&gt;
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to allow humanitarian aid to be delivered. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;span class=&quot;pullquote_new&quot;&gt;In addition to his weekly &lt;strong&gt;openDemocracy&lt;/strong&gt; column, Paul Rogers writes an international security
monthly briefing for the Oxford Research Group; for details, click &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oxfordresearchgroup.org.uk/paulrogers.htm&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Paul Rogers&amp;#39;s most recent book is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.polity.co.uk/book.asp?ref=9780745641966&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;u&gt;Why We&amp;#39;re Losing the War on Terror&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; (Polity, 2007) - an
analysis of the strategic misjudgments of the post-9/11 era and why a new
security paradigm is needed&lt;/span&gt;At the same time, diplomatic &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rferl.org/content/Mounting_Civilian_Casualties_Increase_Pressure_On_Israel_To_Halt_Military_Operation/1367276.html&quot;&gt;efforts&lt;/a&gt; (including an Egyptian-French initiative) to
secure a ceasefire are escalating. There are various proposals available that
could offer a limited way forward, such as the International Crisis Group
briefing of 5 January (see &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?id=5838&amp;amp;l=1&amp;amp;m=1&quot;&gt;Ending the War in Gaza&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, 5 January 2009). 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Whether the domestic Israeli political
reaction to the unfolding war, and in particular diverse views among its
leadership, will lead in the direction of restraint remains to be seen (see
Donald Macintyre, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/donald-macintyre/donald-macintyre-so-what-will-it-take-for-israel-to-stop-fighting-1230043.html&quot;&gt;So what will it take for Israel to stop fighting?&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, &lt;em&gt;Independent&lt;/em&gt;,
7 January 2009). The dangers of  what one
astute analyst calls &amp;quot;the euphoria trap&amp;quot; may yet be recognised (see Aluf Benn,
&amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1053429.html&quot;&gt;The euphoria point&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, &lt;em&gt;Ha&amp;#39;aretz&lt;/em&gt;,
7 January 2009). But it must be recalled that Israel retains the strong support
of what remains of the George W Bush administration, and in current
circumstances United States pressure is the only external influence on Israel
that is likely to affect its military calculations. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The
al-Qaida factor&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The Israeli problem in part stems from the
ability of the Hamas paramilitaries to continue launching rockets in spite of
the extraordinary intensity of the initial air attacks. In the first four
minutes of the surprise attack which started the war on 27 December 2008, the
Israeli air force used eighty-eight aircraft in simultaneous raids on 100
pre-planned targets (see Barbara Opall-Rome, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3885990&amp;amp;c=FEA&amp;amp;s=CVS&quot;&gt;In Gaza, Both Sides Reveal New
Gear&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, &lt;em&gt;Defense News&lt;/em&gt;, 5 January 2009). 400 more
targets were hit in the following six days, yet the rockets have kept coming,
some reaching more than forty kilometres into southern Israel. All of this
means that the war may yet continue for many days. In that event the eventual
impact would go well beyond the immediate region, with even al-Qaida seeking to
benefit (see Syed Saleem Shahzad, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KA07Ak01.html&quot;&gt;Al-Qaeda sniffs opportunity in
Gaza&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, &lt;em&gt;Asia&lt;/em&gt; &lt;em&gt;Times&lt;/em&gt;,
6 January 2009).   
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Until recently, most of al-Qaida&amp;#39;s efforts
were focused on trying to shape developments in southern Afghanistan and
western Pakistan, with important connections also being made in Yemen and &lt;a href=&quot;/article/somalia-ends-and-beginnings&quot;&gt;Somalia&lt;/a&gt;. Al-Qaida may have repeatedly emphasised its
fundamental opposition to Zionism, but Palestinian aspirations were never
central to the movement. Even now, the most likely source of benefit for
al-Qaida in the war over Gaza would be less an increasing presence within the
Palestinian territories than a sharpening of opposition within &lt;a href=&quot;/article/egypt-the-surreal-painting&quot;&gt;Egypt&lt;/a&gt; to the Hosni Mubarak regime&amp;#39;s perceived
indulgence of Israel (see Roula Khalaf, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f0ee717c-db45-11dd-be53-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1&quot;&gt;Cairo&amp;#39;s balancing act over Gaza&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, &lt;em&gt;Financial
Times&lt;/em&gt;, 6 January 2009). 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
But the advantage al-Qaida might gain from the
Gaza war of 2008-09 may go further. For an emerging and widespread public
interpretation of the conflict across the middle east draws on evidence of the
more than seven years of &amp;quot;war on terror&amp;quot; to place what is happening in Gaza in
a wider context, in a way that can be used to reinforce the movement&amp;#39;s worldview.
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;A
joint enterprise&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
What is happening in
Gaza, according to this general perspective, is that it is not an Israeli war but a joint operation by the United States
and Israel. Thus, the F-16 strike aircraft and the Apache helicopter-gunships
are seen less as Israeli aircraft but as American aircraft with Israeli
markings. This in turn feeds into the wider perception of a generalised war
against Islam being conducted by a crusader-Zionist &lt;a href=&quot;/conflict/article_2329.jsp&quot;&gt;opponent&lt;/a&gt; that must be resisted by all means possible.
From this outlook, it is &lt;a href=&quot;/conflict-middle_east_politics/hamas_3982.jsp&quot;&gt;Hamas&lt;/a&gt; that is on the frontline of the moment and
deserving of increased support. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This is a deeply embedded worldview. What
makes it more potent is that it is grounded in many elements of US-Israeli
cooperation that are clear and beyond controversy. As a number of columns in
this series have reported, the military connections between Washington and Tel
Aviv that predated the war in Iraq that began in 2003 were hugely boosted as US
forces ran full-tilt into an urban insurgency in Iraq. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The Israeli military assaults on West Bank
towns in 2002, for example, had been of especial value in providing lessons for
the US (see &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/conflict/article_113.jsp&quot;&gt;The widening possibility of war&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, [3 April 2002] and &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/conflict/article_115.jsp&quot;&gt;Israel&amp;#39;s strategy: the impotence
of arms&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot; [10 April 2002]).
By December 2003, detailed discussions were underway between the US Army&amp;#39;s
Training and Doctrine Command (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tradoc.army.mil/index.htm&quot;&gt;Tradoc&lt;/a&gt;)
and the Israeli Defence Forces to enable the US army to learn from Israel&amp;#39;s
experience in controlling the occupied territories of the West Bank and Gaza
(see &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/conflict/article_1655.jsp&quot;&gt;After Saddam, no respite&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, 19 December 2003). 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
By 2004, the US armed forces in Iraq were
benefiting from Israeli tactics and the use of Israeli weapons and surveillance
systems. Israeli forces were even reported to be training Kurdish militias
within Iraq (see &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/conflict/article_2000.jsp&quot;&gt;Iraq&amp;#39;s Israeli factor&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, 7 July 2004). All of this was music to the
ears of al-Qaida propagandists who could represent the Iraq war as a
straightforward crusader-Zionist campaign to take over the heart of the Arab
world, including Baghdad - the original seat of the renowned &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metmuseum.org/TOAH/hd/abba/hd_abba.htm&quot;&gt;Abbasid&lt;/a&gt; caliphate of the early centuries of Islam. 
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
&lt;strong&gt;The
ripples of war&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
This narrative has a powerful and enduring resonance
in many contemporary zones of conflict and tension. It has an immediate
purchase in relation to the current war in Gaza, where the nature of United
States-Israeli involvement in Iraq has resulted in other forms of cooperation
that are now being tested in this fresh theatre of combat.    
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
in 2005, as another column in this series
reported, the Israeli army began to construct a complete &amp;quot;Arab&amp;quot; town, known as
Baladia, in the Negev desert (see &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;/conflicts/global_security/tale_two_towns&quot;&gt;A tale of two towns&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, 21 June 2006). Baladia, built in terrain
very similar to Gaza - and complete with mosques, a market, densely-packed
housing, narrow alleyways and even a mock refugee camp - was opened in mid-2007
as Israel&amp;#39;s National Urban Training Centre. Many of the Israeli troops
currently fighting in Gaza will have spent time there, in facilities &amp;quot;used to
train infantry in the type of house-to-house and subterranean combat expected
in Gaza, southern Lebanon and other theaters&amp;quot; (see Barbara Opall-Rome, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3844091&quot;&gt;Israel Upgrades Training Center Capabilities&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;, &lt;em&gt;Defense
News&lt;/em&gt;, 1 December 2008).
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
But Baladia&amp;#39;s real importance in the current
context is that the whole facility was constructed by the US Army Corps of
Engineers, and paid for mainly by US military aid. Its first commander, &lt;a href=&quot;http://dover.idf.il/IDF/Templates/Innerpage.aspx?NRMODE=Published&amp;amp;NRNODEGUID=%7BDDF818D9-D433-44AB-9D49-D33B332C01B1%7D&amp;amp;NRORIGINALURL=%252FIDF%252FEnglish%252FNews%252Fappointments%252F2007%252F11%252F2701.htm&amp;amp;NRCACHEHINT=Guest&quot;&gt;Brigadier-General Uzi Moskovitch&lt;/a&gt; said: &amp;quot;This is something developed by us in
cooperation with the US army; we intend for it to become a valuable centre of
knowledge that will also benefit our American allies and other friends&amp;quot; (see
Barbara Opall-Rome, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2007/06/marine_israel_combattraining_070624/&quot;&gt;Marines to train at new Israeli
combat center&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;,
&lt;em&gt;Marine Corps Times&lt;/em&gt;, 25 June 2007).
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
Few people in the United States or western
Europe are aware of Baladia or its significance across the middle east. But
many in the region are; and it is just one example that can be cited to
represent the Gaza war as the closing chapter of the George W Bush
administration&amp;#39;s war on terror and its assault on Islam (see Shelly Paz, &amp;quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%252FJPArticle%252FShowFull&amp;amp;cid=1167467790418&quot;&gt;IDF builds fake Muslim city to
prepare for war&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;,
&lt;em&gt;Jerusalem Post&lt;/em&gt;, 22 January
2007).   
&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;
The next chapters remain to be written.
Perhaps there will be a change in style after &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1053229.html&quot;&gt;Barack Obama&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#39;s inauguration on 20 January; perhaps there
will even be a change in substance. But whatever happens in the next few days
and weeks, the Gaza war of 2008-09 is likely to resonate across the region for
many years to come as a case-study of the actions and intentions of the &amp;quot;far
enemy&amp;quot; and its local proxy.
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