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 <description>&lt;div class=&quot;pull_quote_article&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;pull_quote_image&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.opendemocracy.net/content/articles/603/images/Marina Warner.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Marina Warner&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;image_caption&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;Marina Warner at the opening of the Metamorphing exhibition which she has curated at the &lt;a href=http://www.24hourmuseum.org.uk/exh/ART13927.html target=_blank&gt;&lt;b&gt;Science Museum&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, London&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;In the wake of the September 11 attack, I had an email from Eileen Wanquet, a teacher of English literature on the island of La Reunion, which is in the Indian Ocean but is still a department of France. In it she wrote, &amp;#145;I&amp;#146;ve been worrying about why people don&amp;#146;t seem to learn from what happens. And in spite of all the literature which is almost prophetic&amp;#133;I&amp;#146;ve been thinking about how literature works, and how it is not politics.&amp;#146; 
&lt;p&gt;
What Eileen wrote struck me with peculiar force because I was thinking about the increasing role of apology, especially public apology as it is embodied in writings of different kinds &amp;#150; in order to throw light, if possible, on what it means for the many distempered areas of the past and the present where human rights are violated. 
&lt;p&gt;
As we go, if you come with me, we shall meet beckoning figures, as if travelling on some allegorical map of a pilgrim&amp;#146;s progress. Of course, there are well-known companions of any such road: Hypocrisy, Evasion, Excuses and Lies. But starting with Confession we shall meet less familiar figures: Regret, Remorse, Recognition, Retraction, Responsibility, Repentance, and then, towards the end of the journey, perhaps, Vindication, Expiation/Atonement, Placation, Reconciliation &amp;#150; flanked by two pairs of twins, Reform and Redress and Reparation and Restitution, with the angel of Redemption hovering above. 
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;full_image&quot;&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.opendemocracy.net/content/articles/603/images/0527_Warner_prideArrogancy_.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Pride, Arrogancy...&quot;width=&quot;555&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;image_caption&quot;&gt;&lt;center&gt;&lt;b&gt;Pride, Arrogancy, Self-conceit, Worldly-glory&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/center&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The
prefix that recurs so frequently in these words denotes that these states of
mind arise in response to a prior act or event. They are made in relation to an
object, which then bears back on the subject; an Apology is in this sense an
agreement &amp;#150; a compact between different parties, not a lone initiative. I&amp;#146;ll be
coming back later to this recursive recombining and mutual self-fashioning.

&lt;p&gt;I

am going to look at four scenes in literature which illuminate states that seem

to me to follow upon one another in the act of apology as a relationship.

 

&lt;p&gt;First,

the existence of an injustice, testified by the sufferer. For this, I am going

to take the figure of Io from Aeschylus&amp;#146;s magnificent study in suffering, &lt;i&gt;&lt;a

href=&quot;http://www.theatrehistory.com/ancient/bates019.html&quot; target=_blank&gt;Prometheus Bound&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.

 

 

&lt;p&gt;Secondly,

the apologist, the one who accepts responsibility &amp;#150; or takes the blame &amp;#150; and speaks

of regret and &amp;#150; it is implied &amp;#150; pledges reform and redress. Here my principal

subject will be St Augustine who speaks through his &lt;i&gt;Confessions&lt;/i&gt;.

 

&lt;p&gt;Thirdly,

the response of the apologee &amp;#150; the person to whom the avowal of guilt is made.

Here I&amp;#146;ll look at &lt;i&gt;The Marriage of Figaro&lt;/i&gt;, and play the exquisite music

of forgiveness and reconciliation in the last act.

 &lt;div class=&quot;pull_quote_article&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;pull_quote&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;
J.M.Coetzee &amp;#145;Disgust&amp;#146;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;

&amp;#147;He walks on, turns back, passes Captain Dorego&amp;#146;s a second time. The three are seated at a table in the window. For an instant, through the glass, Soraya&amp;#146;s eyes meet his.
He has always been a man of the city, at home amid the flux of bodies where eros stalks and glances flash like arrows. But this glance between himself and Soraya he regrets at once. (p.6)

Isaacs accepts Lurie&#039;s apology but states,&#039; We are all sorry when we are found out. The question is what lesson have we learned? The question is, what are we going to do now that we are sorry?&#039;
&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;The

fourth, and final scene, a look at what the future may hold, which comes from &lt;a

href=&quot;http://www.virago.co.uk/virago/meet/slovo_profile.asp&quot; target=_blank&gt;Gillian Slovo&lt;/a&gt;&amp;#146;s

most recent novel, &lt;i&gt;Red Dust&lt;/i&gt;, a popular, accessible page-turner and

best-seller that vividly explores the issues raised by the &lt;a

href=&quot;http://www.doj.gov.za/trc/index.html&quot; target=_blank&gt;Truth and Reconciliation Commission&lt;/a&gt;

in South Africa.

 

&lt;p&gt;The

Commission asked people to tell their stories. It proposed &amp;#150; and seemed to

reach &amp;#150; a revolutionary form of trying to achieve some kind of peace and

settlement in a country that had been torn by internal strife. It offered

amnesty to all crimes committed in pursuit of political ends, with the

significant exception of rape, as we shall see, provided these were admitted.

Slovo&amp;#146;s book also constitutes a challenge to J.M. Coetzee&amp;#146;s bitter pessimism,

in his allegory of post-apartheid retributive and redistributive justice, the

Booker prize winning, controversial novel &lt;i&gt;&lt;a

href=&quot;http://books.guardian.co.uk/reviews/generalfiction/0,6121,96805,00.html&quot; target=_blank&gt;Disgrace&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;.
&lt;/div&gt;But

before I turn to these four scenes, a quick overview of the present state of

apology. It is a growing field. Apology has become a political enthusiasm. It

began before the current, distinctly unapologetic administration in Washington.

It is likely to grow strongly after it; not least thanks to vocabulary of good and

evil with which President Bush has moralised his presentation of grand

strategy.

 

&lt;p&gt;Bill

Clinton apologised to many groups, including ex-prisoners who were used in &lt;a

href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/US/9704/08/tuskegee/&quot; target=_blank&gt;human experiments&lt;/a&gt; over

syphilis; he apologised to the victims of the civil conflict in &lt;a

href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9803/25/rwanda.clinton/&quot; target=_blank&gt;Rwanda&lt;/a&gt;, many of

whom he might have saved; and he apologised to &lt;a

href=&quot;http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,3836449,00.html&quot; target=_blank&gt;El

Salvador&lt;/a&gt; for American policies that were not his responsibility.

 

&lt;p&gt;The

Queen of the United Kingdom formally apologised to the &lt;a

href=&quot;http://www.bennion.co.nz/mlr/1995/may.html&quot; target=_blank&gt;Maoris&lt;/a&gt; in New Zealand for the acts of Crown authorities in violating the 1840 &lt;a href=http://www.archives.govt.nz/holdings/treaty_frame.html target=_blank&gt;Treaty of Waitangi&lt;/a&gt; by engaging in subsequent acts of dispossession of their lands in New Zealand; and she apologised in

India for the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9710/14/india.queen/&quot; target=_blank&gt;massacre

of Amritsar&lt;/a&gt; in 1919. Tony Blair has followed suit, and apologised for the &lt;a

href=&quot;http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlker/famemig.html#Blair&quot;&gt;Irish famine&lt;/a&gt;.
&lt;div class=&quot;pull_quote_article&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;pull_quote_image&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.opendemocracy.net/content/articles/603/images/0522_Warner_sacrament_LAUNCH.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Reconciliation pamphlet&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;image_caption&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;South African Catholic pamphlet&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;The

Pope has apologised on nearly a hundred different occasions. At a special &lt;a

href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/675361.stm&quot; target=_blank&gt;Mass for the

Millennium&lt;/a&gt;, he bundled up 2000 years of Church injustice into one comprehensive

plea for forgiveness and purification. He invoked crimes against Jews, women,

minorities, in general, and some historical episodes in particular, such as the

Crusades and the Inquisition. After invoking each category, what he actually

said was, &amp;#145;We forgive and ask forgiveness&amp;#146;.

 

&lt;p&gt;He

did not mention the complicity of the Vatican with Fascism, in Italy and in

Germany, and he left out any plea for the treatment meted out to homosexuals.

So while his acknowledgement of the Church&amp;#146;s guilt and his repentance were

convincing to some and warmly welcomed, they did not go far enough for others.

 

&lt;p&gt;Among

the many bitter issues, past and present, in which victims, survivors or their

descendants are demanding apology, are some very serious, large questions of the

historical past. In Australia, the government has refused to apologise to the

Aborigines for their oppression during the colonial era, though it has done so

to those called &amp;#145;the stolen generation&amp;#146;, who were forcibly separated in infancy

from their parents to be brought up in white homes. In Japan, the &amp;#145;comfort

women&amp;#146; conscripted during the Second World War, have not accepted the

conditional apology, which is all they have so far been offered. In America, a

campaign is growing for an apology for slavery.

 

&lt;p&gt;This

last almost destroyed the United Nations (UN) &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.un.org/WCAR/&quot; target=_blank&gt;conference&lt;/a&gt;

in Durban last year, when Britain, alone among EU countries, refused to agree

to apologise, and argued for &amp;#150; and eventually negotiated &amp;#150; a strong statement

of regret and repudiation instead.

 

&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#146;m

very uneasy about the currents that carry this spate of apology forward. To be

anecdotal, the word &amp;#145;Sorry&amp;#146; is almost my way of saying, &amp;#145;Hello&amp;#146;. It&amp;#146;s probably

the word I habitually use most often &amp;#150; sometimes as a way of hailing a waiter,

or, even, I&amp;#146;m not beyond saying it when someone treads on &lt;i&gt;my&lt;/i&gt; foot. There

may be a class aspect to this, of a certain upbringing and a liberal

conscience. (Saying sorry can be a way of life.) More seriously, I want to give

my support to acts &amp;#150; verbal utterances &amp;#150; which represent revulsion against

wrongdoing, to accept that to forgive and forget is the better part, and to

acknowledge the enchanting power of language to bring about changes in the air

&amp;#150; aery nothings, however insubstantial, are aery somethings too. As Hippolita

says in &lt;i&gt;A Midsummer Night&amp;#146;s Dream&lt;/i&gt;, a story made up of immaterial words

can make a permanent impression, can &amp;#145;grow to

something of great constancy.&amp;#146;


&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;pull_quote_article&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;pull_quote_image&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.opendemocracy.net/content/articles/603/images/kim hak sun.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Kim Hak Sun&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;image_caption&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=http://userwww.sfsu.edu/~soh/comfortwomen.html#KimPhoto target=-blank&gt;Kim Hak Sun&lt;/a&gt;: the first Korean woman to give public testimony in 1991 to her life as a comfort woman for the Japanese Imperial Army&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;But, but, but. The

personal is political, yes, but maybe that is the problem &amp;#150; the feminist slogan

has won an extraordinary victory and is now being appropriated by jealous

power. It is not just that other, different groups want their sorrows

recognised in a language of compassion. The Lords of Creation also want to show

adherence to it, by accepting a vicarious guilt and expressing their sorrow for

it.

 

&lt;p&gt;It

is easy enough for them to find the opportunity. As Meursault comments wryly to

himself in &lt;i&gt;The Outsider&lt;/i&gt; by Albert Camus, &amp;#145;In any case, you&amp;#146;re always

partly to blame.&amp;#146; But what are we to make of self-inculpation for events in the

past? Should an existential model of subjectivity encompass the structure of

human rights? Should politics be personalised to this extent?

 

&lt;p&gt;I

feel I&amp;#146;m getting in very deep here, but I want to find out why I laughed a

hollow laugh when I arrived in San Francisco the day that the Archbishop of

California was apologising to all those who had been abused as children by nuns

and priests. The thought of Blair shucking off the inconvenient complications

of Britain&amp;#146;s role in Ireland by saying he was sorry also made me snort; and I

want to shake the Pope, frail as he is, when he says he forgives and asks for

forgiveness &amp;#150; from God &amp;#150; for 2000 years of sins of the Church against women.

Yes, well, what you are you doing about us now?

 

&lt;p&gt;When

it concerns the sins of the past, official apology unites two different forms

of speech, both of them deeply intertwined with ideas about self-examination,

and self-disclosure &amp;#150; with, in short, ways of remembering oneself. The first is

theological and sacramental, the language of repentance and atonement. The

second is psychoanalytic: the practice of the &amp;#145;talking cure&amp;#146; and the

psychotherapy group meeting to help relieve bereavement, mental distress, and

the victims of abuse.

 

&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;pull_quote_article&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;pull_quote&quot;&gt;&amp;#147;&amp;#133;after forty years, the whole rationale of the Soviet Alliance is beginning to fall apart. The key event I think was in 1970, when Willy Brandt went to Warsaw. The sight of a German leader, kneeling in expiation for the crimes of the wartime period, is a sight which no Pole, I think, would ever forget&amp;#148;.  (Norman Davies, in Michael Charlton ed.,  &lt;i&gt;The Eagle and the Small Birds&lt;/i&gt;, 1984)  &lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Thus,

public apologies made by leaders of world affairs cast them in priestly roles;

Tony Blair is not &lt;i&gt;directly&lt;/i&gt; implicated in the acts for which he has

apologised, nor is Clinton. Indeed, they show themselves rather more reluctant

to apologise when they are directly involved. Their verbal retractions are

magical, sacramental acts, designed to ease and soothe and purge hatred and

grudge. Such apologies are like religious rituals that exorcise demons. The

purpose in the present, with respect to potential supporters, is to generate

the identification that comes with the shared experience of healing, however

momentary.

 

&lt;p&gt;Such

apologies differ from public statements of responsibility and regret made by

those involved directly to those injured. Neither the priestly discourses nor

the curing is juridical or political in the traditional sense. But as politics

becomes increasingly presidential, and as presidential politics becomes

increasingly priestly, it is important to evaluate the change not just dismiss

it, for all its cynicism. As Roy L. Brooks writes in his book of essays, &lt;i&gt;When

Sorry Isn&amp;#146;t Enough&lt;/i&gt;, &amp;#145;what is happening (in the age of apology) is more

complex than &amp;#147;contrition chic&amp;#148; or the &amp;#147;canonization of sentimentality&amp;#148;.&amp;#146;

 

&lt;p&gt;In

the wake of the Second World War, the possibility of healing grief and easing

social conflicts through speech acts, through rites of mourning and expiation,

through an evolved, secular verbal magic, has passed into the public arena all

over the world.

 

&lt;p&gt;Many

tributaries, very tricky to navigate, flow from this main current of public

avowals and disavowals; not least, must an apology lead to reparation, if it is

to be to be at all meaningful? That is, without a subsequent act of reparation

or restitution, can it be fully constituted as an apology? Or is the

performance of a speech act something that itself makes change? Is it the soft

answer that turneth away wrath? Is the recognition of wrongdoing sufficient? As

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nobel.se/literature/laureates/1986/soyinka-bio.html&quot; target=_blank&gt;Wole

Soyinka&lt;/a&gt; asked, &amp;#145;Is knowledge on its own of lasting effect?&amp;#146;

 

&lt;p&gt;Or is an apology

necessarily in and of itself a plea for forgiveness, which reaches completion

only if and when that pardon is granted?

 &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;pull_quote_article&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;pull_quote&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;An Irishman&#039;s Diary&lt;/b&gt;&lt;bR&gt;&lt;A HREF=http://dispatches.phoblacht.net/archive/dispatch227.htm   
 TARGET=_BLANK&gt;By Kevin Myers, Irish Timid, 4/1/01
&lt;BR&gt;
&quot;Amnesia has been one of the great enabling factors in the cycle of troubles over the years. Amnesia liberates from consequence, conferring innocence on the guilty, and banishing the slaughtered dead to a permanent exile from popular memory. So it is not spiteful or revanchist to remember. It is morally necessary. It is the guard against a fresh infestation of violence&quot; 
&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/div&gt;
The sacrament of penance

in Roman Catholic rite sets out three stages. First, there is Contrition. Then,

if it is sincere, Absolution will be granted. But, thirdly, Penance has to be

performed by the confessor in order to make the absolution take.

 

&lt;p&gt;Already we are starting

to see that the framework of public apology is intricate, combining issues of

language, religion and gender. In several languages, the word apology does not

exist independently of the word for forgiveness. In Ibo, as spoken in Nigeria,

to apologise is to ask for a pardon: &lt;i&gt;biko gbaghala mm&lt;/i&gt; means please

forgive me. In French, &lt;i&gt;je vous demande pardon&lt;/i&gt;, and likewise the Italian,

&lt;i&gt;mi scusi&lt;/i&gt;, differ from the English &amp;#145;I&amp;#146;m sorry&amp;#146;. French has &lt;i&gt;je suis

désolée&lt;/i&gt;. But it lacks the formality of what is a normal phrase in English

conversation, &amp;#145;I apologise&amp;#146;. The distinction between this and the personal

&amp;#145;forgive me&amp;#146; is not available. (However, French does have &lt;i&gt;pardon&lt;/i&gt;, which

contains the admission of fault, while the weaker phrase for regret, &lt;i&gt;je&lt;/i&gt; &lt;i&gt;m&amp;#146;excuse&lt;/i&gt;,

includes a hint of a reason for the act &amp;#150; an excuse. As the French also say, &lt;i&gt;Qui&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;s&amp;#146;accuse s&amp;#146;excuse &amp;#150;&lt;/i&gt; to accuse oneself is to excuse oneself.) 
&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;pull_quote_article&quot;&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;pull_quote_image&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.opendemocracy.net/content/articles/603/images/0518_Warner_Magdalen_LAUNCH.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Mary Magdalen&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;image_caption&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Penitent Magdalen by Titian:&lt;br&gt;
Penance suits women&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;Sorry is associated with

a gender. When I asked a friend of mine, the writer Jonathan Keates, who is

also an English teacher (at a central London boys&amp;#146; secondary school), if he

ever asked his pupils to apologise to one another, he told me, that on some

occasions, he had done so, and it cost boys dearly to do so, because, as he put

it, &amp;#145;it&amp;#146;s a girly thing&amp;#146;. This is also my impression &amp;#150; and I think the scenes I

am going to explore will help us understand why.

 

&lt;p&gt;The

religious background is also very influential of people&amp;#146;s attitudes and

expectations. It is significant that the Catholic sacrament, if all the

conditions are met, shrives the penitent of the sins that have been confessed

and lifts guilt from the wrongdoer. Puritan or Protestant guilt, by contrast,

cannot be shed by mere contrition or even subsequent acts of penance. This may

underpin the difference between papal acts of apology, and the consequences of

apologies in the USA and in Anglican England. Perhaps along with the fact that

in the birthplace of making gains through the insurance market there is a fear

of the consequences that could follow public apology &amp;#150; demands for reparation

and monetary damages along the model of an insurance claim. But there are other

reasons too.



&lt;p&gt;
&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;/articles/View.jsp?id=646&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Scene One: Io&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;li&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;/articles/View.jsp?id=647&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Scene Two: St Augustine&amp;#146;s Confessions&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;li&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;/articles/View.jsp?id=648&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Scene Three: The Marriage of Figaro&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;li&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;/articles/View.jsp?id=649&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Scene Four: Red Dust by Gillian Slovo&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;li&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;/articles/View.jsp?id=650&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Conclusion&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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