http://www.opendemocracy.net/global_deal/usa Comments for "USA" en http://www.opendemocracy.net/global_deal/dumping_Kyoto#comment-438465 <p>David,</p> <p>There is another "realist" attack on Bali coming from <a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/fc338d2a-a292-11dc-81c4-0000779fd2ac.html">Martin Wolf in his FT column.</a> It is quite thoughtful; this is his argument:<br /> - Kyoto targets have been flouted<br /> - the rich are unlikely to tighten their belts for the poor<br /> - therefore we need _real_ scare tactics: not 3C temperature increase, but 40C, Venus-style feedback loops, accompanied by<br /> - a demonstration that low carbon is not hair-shirt</p> <p>What worries me in this argument is that we are socially well inured to end-of-the-world Wolf-crying.</p> <p>Where do you see a motivation for a deal coming from - if not liberally using the politics of energy-independence?</p> <p>Tony</p> Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:40:04 +0000 opendemocracy comment 438465 at http://www.opendemocracy.net