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 <title>caspar.henderson@opendemocracy.net on &quot;Leaving Bali for a European destination&quot;</title>
 <link>http://www.opendemocracy.net/global_deal/from_Bali_to_EU#comment-438681</link>
 <description>Yes, but can the EU actually deliver on its own pledge of 20% cuts by 2020?  To do so would probably mean actually taking some powerful vested interests back home, and committing very large amounts of public and private capital to change.  What are the odds for this in Europe, and how might those odds [be] change[d]?Thanks, by the way, for outstanding coverage!</description>
 <pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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 <title>opendemocracy on &quot;Dumping on Kyoto&quot;</title>
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 <description>&lt;p&gt;David,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There is another &quot;realist&quot; attack on Bali coming from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/fc338d2a-a292-11dc-81c4-0000779fd2ac.html&quot;&gt;Martin Wolf in his FT column.&lt;/a&gt; It is quite thoughtful; this is his argument:&lt;br /&gt;
- Kyoto targets have been flouted&lt;br /&gt;
- the rich are unlikely to tighten their belts for the poor&lt;br /&gt;
- therefore we need _real_ scare tactics: not 3C temperature increase, but 40C, Venus-style feedback loops, accompanied by&lt;br /&gt;
- a demonstration that low carbon is not hair-shirt&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What worries me in this argument is that we are socially well inured to end-of-the-world Wolf-crying.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where do you see a motivation for a deal coming from - if not liberally using the politics of energy-independence?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Tony&lt;/p&gt;
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 <pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 10:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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