Mandela neither demanded nor received an entirely unconditional devotion; in power he expected his compatriots to behave as assertive citizens not genuflecting disciples
Mandela neither demanded nor received an entirely unconditional devotion; in power he expected his compatriots to behave as assertive citizens not genuflecting disciples
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Crusade for Fairness
Crusade for Fairness
According to a poll for a conservative think-tank, the growing number of young Muslims is embracing radical Islam. Young Muslims hold aggressively more extreme views than their parents. The think-tank blames multiculturalism for producing a generation of young Muslims who champion their right to be different. Multiculturalism is nothing to do with community cohesion and at the same time it does not divide people. British society is already divided because of institutional racism and extremism by all political parties. British society can tolerate foreigners as economic slaves but is unwilling to accept them as human beings. Muslims are human beings with social, emotional and spiritual needs and demands. They are not just economics. It is not 9/11 or 7/7; Islam was always portrayed as a threat to Western societies. Fear and the emotions that accompany it, has become a part of the public mindset. Headlines about waves of immigrants and fears of being swamped by foreigners are not much different now and they were in the past, and it is enough to make you wonder if we really were welcome in this country. Britain seems to be more in the grip of Muslim
Submitted on Fri, 2007-03-02 18:58
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What a load of rubbish.
Britain was puzzling over how a few young Muslim men, British born and educated, could feel so alienated that they wanted to blow up their fellow British citizens. I blame the British education system which is the home of institutional racism and native teachers, who are in no way role models for Muslim children.
Well that's a new one. I blame Muslim thought and teaching which planted in the minds of these young men that to go out and commit cold blooded murder was in someway acceptable and a religious duty. They were just murdering scum and may they burn in hell for it. And you are no better if you seek to defend what they did.
But that being said it is also views such as your which are part of the problem. This is a catholic country, with a catholic sovereign and catholic laws. The base of our society and country is its Christian roots. Islam is profoundly hostile to Christianity and has tried to irradiate it, but has failed. And let us be honest: as a Muslim you have far more freedom to practice your religion in the United Kingdom than Christians have to practice their religion in most Muslim countries, Saudi Arabia being a notable example of a nasty racist state.
Perhaps it is time we applied the same degree of tolerance to Muslims in Britain that Christians receive in Saudi Arabia. If we did so then, and only then, might you have grounds for complaint. You have no such grounds, but if you are so unhappy then do feel free to leave our shores.
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make me king for a day and I would blow up all the mosques. When the muslims whine just give them the S Arabia line.....islam is a wrong religion and we wont let it be practiced in our country!
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I doubt you could sign all the warrants in a mere day.
Re: Crusade for Fairness
In Las Vegas, a man performed in front of tens fo thousands of tourists with a tiger. Toward the end of the show, the tiger wildly attacked the dancer and was hospitalized. During his press report, he stated that the incident surprised him because he performed so many times with that animal. Somehow the tiger's natural instinct kicked in! Few other examples of snake charmers, lion trainers being attacked. No matter how calm, tame, and wonderful these animals are, their instinct make them act.
This incidents should be warnings to Christian nations of the world, US and UK in particular. Recently, a documentary released by TV through out UK and US shows Immams and other Clerics preaching in Mosques calling for the destruction of UK, US, Israel and basically any country that supports Israel and the war Against Terror. Muslims who are born in UK and US are citizens of these countries, but, like the tiger story above, they are Muslims and according to their religious and natural instinct, it is their duty to the "infidels." No matter how many years these radicals spent in Colleges in these countries, their views never changed.
Today, political correctness often protecting radical Muslims in our countries. In such, Muslims are categorized in our countries by politicians into various groups (for the sake of political correctness):
A. The traditionalists: often applied to Conservative Muslims who called for the return to "basic" teachings of Mohammed.
B. Radicals: Muslims who believe that everyone should be Muslims. They take the words of Mohammed literally.
C. Extremists: Those who enforced the radical teachings of Islam through terror and murder. They are called the "martyr" of Allah (in a hope to have some 72 virgins in paradise)
D. The Moderates: Those who view extremism and radicalism as not Islamic in nature. They, like traditionalists want Muslims to be peace makers.
However, the problem with this is that Muslims don't have boundaries and every single Muslim has the potential of being violent. Take Australia for instance, Muslims in Australia have always been peace makers, isolate and praciticing Islam peacefully, but recently violence emerged within the Muslim communities as Clerics called for "Jihadist."
The question is why? Why all of a sudden peaceful Muslims transformed into violent?
Take a look at some of the scriptures that "ALL" Muslims read every day:
1. Sura 4:74
"Let those who would exchange the life of this world for the hereafter, fight for the cause of God; whoever fights for the cause of God, whether he dies or triumphs, on him We shall bestow a rich recompense."
"Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."
2. Sura 4:76
"The true believers fight for the cause of God, but the infidels fight for the devil. Fight then against the friends of Satan. Satan's cunning is weak indeed."
3.Sura 4:84
"Therefore fight for the cause of God. You are accountable for none but yourself. Rouse the faithful: perchance God will overthrow the might of the unbelievers. Mightier is God and more terrible is His punishment."
4. Sura 4:89
"They (Muslims who don't want to fight) would have you disbelieve as they themselves have disbelieved, so that you may be all alike. Do not befriend them until they have fled their homes in the cause of God. If they desert you, seize them and put them to death wherever you find them. Look for neither friends nor helpers among them."
"They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them,"5. Sura 4:91
"Others you will find who seek security from you as well as from their own people. Whenever they are called back to sedition they plunge into it headlong. If these do not keep their distance from you, if they neither offer you peace nor cease their hostilities against you, lay hold of them and kill them wherever you find them. Over such men We give you absolute authority."
"Ye will find others who desire that they should have security from you, and security from their own folk. So often as they are returned to hostility they are plunged therein. If they keep not aloof from you nor offer you peace nor hold their hands, then take them and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you clear warrant."
The logic of the Koran are clear and are embraced by everyone single Muslim:
1. Unbelievers are those who do not accept Islam, particularly Jews and Christians.
2. Because unbelievers do not accept Islam, Allah hates them and does not guide them.
3. Because Allah does not guide them, unbelievers become evil-doers - they commit additional sins besides rejecting Islam.
4. Muslims will see the sins of unbelievers plainly, both in non-Muslim society and in dealings with non-Muslims.
5. Therefore, Muslims must fight unbelievers both to limit sin and give unbelievers a chance to go to heaven by becoming Muslims. (Of course, whether you do go to heaven - and get the 70 "black-eyed virgins" - depends on whether your good deeds outweigh your bad or whether you die in jihad.)
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