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DO NOT MISS THEM
DEAR NON MUSLIM AND NON MUSLIM
As i love you and care about your welfare, I am offering yOU this special gift.You do not need to close your eyes but tounlock your hearts and click on the following links.
Please watch TV LIFE , lectures , Quran recitation , taraweeh
http://is.aswatalislam.net/
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Submitted on Tue, 2007-01-09 16:58
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Does it teach you how to make bombs?
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THANK U SO MUCH MR FOR YOUR REPLY.I HAVE NO HATRED TOWARDS YOU OR OTHERS.I RESPECT YOUR OPINION BUT DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT ISLAM CALL FOR TERRORISM.
PLEASE BEAR IN MIND THAT there is nothing and nobody else in the universe that deserves to be worshipped, for Allaah is the Creator and Sustainer, Who has created the universe out of nothing and has bestowed so many blessings upon us. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
So glorify Allaah, when you come up to the evening [i.e., offer the Maghrib (sunset) and Isha (night) prayers], and when you enter the morning [I.e., offer the Fajr (morning) prayers].
And His is all the praise and thanks in the heavens and the earth, and (glorify Him) in the afternoon [i.e., offer Asr (mid-afternoon) prayer] and when you come up to the time when the day begins to decline [i.e., offer the Zuhr (mid-day) prayer].
He brings out the living from the dead, and brings out the dead from the living. And He revives the earth after its death, and thus shall you be brought out (resurrected).
And among His Signs is this, that He created you (Adam) from dust, and then [Hawwa (Eve) from Adams rib, then his offspring from the semen, and], - behold you are human beings scattered!
And among His Signs is this, that He created for you wives from among yourselves, that you may find repose in them, and He has put between you affection and mercy. Verily, in that are indeed signs for a people who reflect.
And among His Signs is the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. Verily in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge.
And among His Signs is the sleep that you take by night and by day, and your seeking of His Bounty. Verily, in that are indeed signs for a people who listen.
And among His Signs is that He shows you the lightning, by way of fear and hope, and He sends down water (rain) from the sky, and therewith revives the earth after its death. Verily, in that are indeed signs for a people who understand.
And among His Signs is that the heaven and the earth stand by His Command, then afterwards when He will call you by single call, behold, you will come out from the earth (ie.e, from your graves, for reckoning and recompense).
To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and the earth. All are obedient to Him.
And He it is Who originates the creation, then will repeat it (after it has perished), and this is easier for Him. His is the highest description (i.e., none has the right to be worshipped but He, and there is nothing comparable unto Him) in the heavens and in the earth. And He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.[al-Room 30: 17-27]
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
Is not He (better than your gods) Who created the heavens and the earth, and sends down for you water (rain) from the sky, whereby We cause to grow wonderful gardens full of beauty and delight? It is not in your ability to cause the growth of their trees. Is there any god with Allaah? Nay, but they are a people who ascribe equals (to Him)!
Is not he (better than you gods) Who has made the earth as a fixed abode, and has placed rivers in its midst, and has placed firm mountains therein, and has set a barrier between the two seas (of salt and sweet water). Is there any god with Allaah? Nay, but most of them know not.
Is not He (better than your gods) Who responds to the distressed one, when He calls Him, and Who removes the evil, generations after generations. Is there any god with Allaah? Little is it that you remember!
Is not He (better than your gods) Who guides you in the darkness of the land and the sea, and Who sends the winds as heralds of glad tidings, going before His mercy (rain)? Is there any god with Allaah? High Exalted be Allaah above all that they associate as partners (to Him)!
Is not He (better than your so-called gods) Who originates creation, and shall thereafter repeat it, and Who provides for you from heaven and earth? Is there any god with Allaah? Say: bring forth your proofs, if you are truthful
Say: None on the heavens and the earth knows the unseen except Allaah, nor can they perceive when they shall be resurrected.
[al-Naml 27:60-65]
So is there anyone or anything besides Allaah that deserves to be worshipped?
Secondly: Allaah did not create us except to worship Him, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):
And I (Allaah) created not the jinns and humans except they should worship Me (Alone).[al-Dhaariyaat 51:56]
Thirdly: No one will be saved on the Day of Resurrection except those who used to worship Allaah truly and sincerely. After death Allaah will resurrect His slaves and call them to account, rewarding or punishing them according to their deeds. No one will be saved on that day except for those who used to worship Allaah Alone. The rest will be gathered into a Hell, a terrible fate! The Prophet of Islam, Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), was asked by his Companions: Will we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection? He told them:
Do you doubt that you can see the sun and the moon when the sky is clear? We [his Companions] said, No. He said, Then you should not doubt that you will see your Lord on that Day, you will see Him as you see them (the sun and moon). Then he said, A caller will call out, Let every people go to that which they used to worship. So the worshippers of the cross will go with their cross, the worshippers of idols will go with their idols and the worshippers of every god will go with their gods, until there will be left those who used to worship Allaah, whether they were righteous or otherwise, and a few of the People of the Book [Jews and Christians]. Then Hell will be brought and shown to them as if it is a mirage. It will be said to the Jews, What did you used to worship? They will say, We used to worship Uzayr, the son of God. It will be said, You have lied. Allaah does not have a wife or son. What do you want? They will say, We want something to drink. It will be said to them, Drink! and they will fall into Hell. Then it will be said to the Christians, What did you used to worship? They will say, We used to worship the Messiah, the son of God. It will be said, You have lied. Allaah does not have a wife or son. What do you want? They will say, We want something to drink. It will be said to them, Drink! and they will fall into Hell. Then there will be left those who used to worship Allaah, whether they were righteous or otherwise. It will be said to them, What are you waiting for? All the people have gone. They will say, We have separated from them and we need Him more today. We heard a caller saying that every people should follow that which they used to worship, so we are waiting for our Lord. He will say, Al-Jabbaar [the Compeller, i.e., Allaah] will come And He will say, I am your Lord. They will say, You are our Lord, but none will speak to Him except the Prophets then every believer will prostrate to Him. (Reported by al-Bukhaari, no. 6886). These believers are the people of Paradise on whom shall be no fear neither shall they grieve, and they will dwell therein for ever.
We hope that this matter has now become clear. In conclusion we can say nothing except that which Allaah has said (interpretation of the meaning):
Whoever goes right, then he goes right only for the benefit of his ownself. And whoever goes stray, then he goes astray to his own loss [al-Isra 17:15]
Peace be upon him who follows the guidance.
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Well I wont pick your post apart, but suffice it to say that I think its a bunch of bs. if you dont believe in the cult of islam or ollie, and you think that muhammad was just a desert rat, thief, murderer and pedophile like I do, then everything you posted is just muslim spew.
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THANK YOU MR FOR INSULTING OUR PROPHET.IF HE WERE ALIVE HE WOULD THANK YOU TOO AND PRAY FOR YOU.READ HIS LIFE AND ABOUT HIS MANNERS AND HUMANITY.YOU ARE INSULTING SOMEONE WHO HAS DONE NOTHING TO YOU BUT BECAUSE HE HAS BROUGHT YOU REAL LIFE AND BROUGHT YOU OUT OF DARKNESS.HE WAS KIND TO ANY ONE EVEN TO ANIMALS.
The Prophet (pbuh) not only preached to the people to show kindness to each other but also to all living souls. He forbade the practice of cutting tails and manes of horses, of branding animals at any soft spot, and of keeping horses saddled unnecessarily (Muslim, Sahih Muslim). If he saw any animal over-loaded or ill-fed he would pull up the owner and say,
"Fear Allah in your treatment of animals." (Abu Dawud, Kitab Jihad).
A companion came to him with the young ones of a bird in his sheet and said that the mother bird had hovered over them all along. He was directed to replace her offspring in the same bush (Mishkat, Abu Dawud)
During a journey, somebody picked up some birds eggs. The bird's painful note and fluttering attracted the attention of the Prophet (pbuh), who asked the man to replace the eggs (Bukhari, Sahih Bukhari).
As his army marched towards Makkah to conquer it, they passed a female dog with puppies. The Prophet (pbuh) not only gave orders that they should not be disturbed, but posted a man to see that this was done.
He stated,
"Verily, there is heavenly reward for every act of kindness done to a living animal."
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Love for the poor
The Prophet (pbuh) enjoined upon Muslims to treat the poor kindly and to help them with alms, zakat, and in other ways. He said:
"He is not a perfect muslim who eats his fill and lets his neighbor go hungry."
He asked,
"Do you love your Creator? Then love your fellow beings first."
Monopoly is unlawful in Islam and he preached that
"It is diffucult for a man laden with riches to climb the steep path that leads to bliss."
He did not prohibit or discourage the aquisition of wealth but insisted that it be lawfully aquired by honest means and that a portion of it would go to the poor. He advised his followers
"To give the laborer his wages before his perspiration dried up."
He did not encourage beggary either and stated that
"Allah is gracious to him who earns his living by his own labor, and that if a man begs to increase his property, Allah will diminish it and whoever has food for the day, it is prohibited for him to beg."
To his wife he said,
"O Aysha, love the poor and let them come to you and Allah will draw you near to Himself." (Bukhari, Sahih Bukhari)
One or two instances of the Prophet's (pbuh) concern for the poor may be given here. A Madinan, Ibad Bin Sharjil, was once starving. He entered an orchard and picked some fruit. The owner of the orchard gave him a sound beating and stripped off his clothes. The poor man appealed to the Prophet (pbuh) who remonstrated the owner thus:
"This man was ignorant, you should have dispelled his ignorance; he was hungry, you should have fed him."
His clothes were restored to the Madinan and, in addition, some grain was given to him (Abu Dawud, Kitabul Jihad).
A debtor, Jabir Bin Abdullah, was being harassed by his creditor as he could not clear his debt owing to the failure of his date crop. The Prophet (pbuh) went with Jabir to the house of the creditor and pleaded with him to give Jabir some more time but the creditor was not prepared to oblige. The Prophet (pbuh) then went to the oasis and having seen for himself that the crop was really poor, he again approached the creditor with no better result. He then rested for some time and approached the creditor for a third time but the latter was adamant. The Prophet (pbuh) went again to the orchard and asked Jabir to pluck the dates. As Allah would have it, the collection not only sufficed to clear the dues but left something to spare (Bukhari, Sahih Bukhari).
His love for the poor was so deep that he used to pray:
"O Allah, keep me poor in my life and at my death and raise me at resurrection among those who are poor." (Nasai, Chapter: Pardon)
http://www.islamonline.net/English/introducingislam/Prophet/Life/article01.shtml
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Im sure all the people that he and his followers murdered would beg to differ with you! Sorry to burst your bubble but mohammad was an illiterate thief, murderer, rapist, pillager, and pedophile. If he were alive today he would be doing life in prison. Maybe he could work in the stables since he was so good to animals.
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Steeler
1- you accused prophet mohamed (pbuh) will all these allegations. Can you proove these to the posters ? I challenge you to post authonticative resources which will proove your allegation. The smart man when accuses someone first will submit his evidence for that allegation, or sorry to say it is only blind hatret and you dont like to see the light of truth, only because some muslims are bad and not practising the following of prophet mohamed (pbuh). Iam waiting for evidences .
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Iam waiting for evidences .
Are you kidding me? Google is your friend abdulsaida, it took me 1 second to find this story. There are literally tens of thousands just like it.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/PaymanSaqib.htm
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steeler
1- also now I surve it quickly and I will later read it , but from the first impression , i recognize all the analysis is fabricated and you know that the man who judje for killing his own people was before a jewish and he told prophet mohamed about that as his people did many crimes and try to kill prophet and safia even was a very noble wife whom she narrated some hadith to muslims. All what you think of low meaning of marriage and not as a holly relation between husband and wife, which islam consider wife and husband as near as the clothes near to the people.
2- Tell now their is punishment for all criminals. why execusion is tell now in most of the western countries and also in france was by cutting head. Iam not telling that as to make execuses , but some people deserve punishment when they commit crimes and that is logic. prpohet mohamed (pbuh) didnt order even anyone to kill other.
3- Mr asaf , also I need your help to read the location as my english is little bit poor and also I will elaborate as to help each other when I forget something , you can correct me . If you dont mr asaf to answer steeler , answer me .
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WHY DONT YOU PUT YOUR HEAD BACK UP YOUR BOTTOM, and leave off the koran-thumping? we are sick, really SICK of this islamic claptrap.
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People are just sick and tired of getting fed religion and being told what to read, what to think, what to believe ...
Religion should be a very personal thing, not something that should be forcefed to people ..
I doubt there is anyone on this forum reading all those long copy and paste posts ... they are boring, they are long and they are totally uninteresting ...
I will not convert to islam more than most other people ..
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Time for you to make some money abdulina. Ask any and all dumbass muslim friends of yours for help, it seems like they are inviting all takers. It seems to me that EX muslims should know what islam is all about. Here is their challenge:
I CHALLENGE
Muslims
I receive many mails from angry Muslims who sometimes beg me and sometimes order me to remove this site. None of that has any effect on me. I consider both pleading and bullying, the signs of psychopathology, which stem from a variety of personality disorders affecting the followers of Muhammad.
If you disagree with my site and want me to remove it, instead of acting as bully or as victim, I invite you to disprove my charges against Muhammad and Islam. If you can show that what I say is unfounded I promise to remove this site not before confessing that I was wrong and Islam is a true religion. I will also pay
$50,000 U.S. dollars
to anyone who can disprove my charges and prove Islam is a true religion in an objective (not subjective) way. This is to thank you for showing me the right way. Hey, what is $50.000 dollars compared to being burned and tortured by a sadistic deity?
The challenge is:
Disprove my accusations against Muhammad.
I accuse Muhammad of being:
a rapist
a pedophile (had sex with a child)
an assassin
a mass murderer
a ruthless torturer
a terrorist (I have been made victorious through terror)
a lecher
a misogynist
a narcissist
a thief and plunderer
a cult leader
a mentally deranged (was paranoid, heard voices, hallucinated of seeing jinns, Satan and angels, used to think he had sex with his wives when he did not, suffered from depression and had suicidal tendencies).
Muslims often ask: "Who will judge whether or not an attempt to disprove your accusations against Muhammad and Islam, was successful?"
My debates with Muslims are published for the world to see. Read them. Do you think anyone of my opponents had a wining argument?
All they said can be summarized as:
a- Denial of the authenticity of the Islamic sources that report the stories of crimes of Muhammad (example: debate with Edip Yukssel, the head of the Submitters)
b- Moral relativism and situational ethics, i.e. In those days, pedophilia, assassination, rape, theft, massacre and lying, were common practice, so Muhammad is innocent because he did what everyone else did. Muslims even go as far as to question the legitimacy of the Golden Rule to claim we do not have any bases to condemn Muhammad. In other words evil can be good and vice versa (example: debate with Yamin Zakaria)
These are the only two arguments that Muslims present. I am sorry but any rational person can see these are logical fallacies. Read these two debates. If all you want to do is to rehash the same logical fallacies, don't waste your time, as you can see I have already responded to these arguments.
These charges have no answer. You simply cant disprove them because they are reported in Islamic sources and as such they are considered confessions. You can't acquit a criminal after he has confessed, unless you plead insanity, which is my point. That is why I offered $50,000 as the reward to anyone who can disprove those charges. If I had any doubts, I would not have risked my money and also would not have dared to oppose a sadistic deity like Allah who likes to burn humans for eternity for disbelieving in him. I know for certainty that Muslims have no answer, Muhammad was a liar and his Allah is fabricated by him. These I have proven exhaustively.
To read my charges in more detail read my debate with Mr. Shahzad. I have to add that Mr. Shahzad was a rare Muslim who intelligently argued his case and never descended to logical fallacies or insults. I did not manage to convince him to leave Islam but he earned my utmost respect.
Before trying to refute me, I urge you to read at least the above three debates and write only if you have something new to say, otherwise I will not even read your email, let alone respond to it. You must realize that I can't respond to a billion people who repeat the same thing.
I receive countless requests from Muslims to debate with them and mostly the challengers are not scholars. Obliviously I can't debate with a billion people. So please don't write to me requesting debate. All you have to do is prove the above charges against Muhammad are wrong. You don't need to debate with me for that. I can prove Socrates, Marx and Freud were wrong even though these guys are dead. Consider me dead. Prove my charges are wrong. Read my previous debates. You can start from here.
Once you wrote your refutation of my charges, please post it in the forum.
Muslims are triumphalists and claim victory even when they are clearly defeated. A Muslim can never accept defeat. A Muslim's typical response to this site is: my faith in Islam grew after I read your site. How can one's faith grow after reading the proof that the man whom he thinks to be a prophet was criminal psychopath? Has anyone disproved any of those charges for Muslims to increase their faith in Islam? Or is it that they are worshipping a demonic god?
I have debated with Muslims who claimed victory because according to them I have not proven that Muhammads sexual relationship at the age of 53 with the 9 years old Aisha constituted pedophilia. I consider this a self evident fact that needs no proof. I do not think there is any need to prove that day is bright and night is dark to a seeing person. And to a blind, proofs are of no avail.
My debates with Muslims are listed here and can also be found in the forum of this site. No Muslim has yet proven any of the above charges wrong.
They ask me, what if one of those charges is proven wrong; would I still remove the site?
Firstly none of those charges are or can be proven wrong.
Secondly even if hypothetically one of those charges is proven wrong, would that exonerate Muhammad of other charges and make him worthy of his claim?
If you can prove any of the charges wrong I will remove that charge. I will remove the whole site when all the charges are proven wrong.
I repeat again, the challenge is not to prove "I" am not infallible. The challenge is to prove Muhammad was not guilty as charged. For him to be worthy of his claim he must be acquitted of all the charges.
Muhammad claimed to have "sublime morals" (68:4) and be a good example to follow" (33:21). He referred to himself as "the mercy of God for all the worlds" (21:107) . Surely such a man can't be a rapist, a pedophile, a looter or be guilty of any of the above charges.
So far a few Muslims have responded to this challenge. Here is our discussions. I don't think they managed to prove me wrong. Can you? Do you know of any Islamic scholar who may be able to do that? If you can't prove what I say about Muhammad is false, why are you still a Muslim? Why you insist to follow a false doctrine? Don't you think the miserable state in which the Islamic world finds itself is because it is following a false doctrine that is dangerous and backward?
Please don't start writing your refutation before reading the articles in this site. You'll be shooting yourself in the foot. If you want to write and tell me: "Oh you are wrong. Islam is a religion of peace". "You take everything out of the context". And other clichs like these, please don't. I receive many messages like these everyday. Don't send me the URL of Islamic sites telling me to read, as if there is something new there that I don't know. I have read all of them, they rehash the same nonsense and I have answered them all. I refuted the Quran and don't have to refute thousands of apologetic sites on Islam. If the Quran is the biggest miracle of Islam then don't ask me to refute the interpretation of a follower of the Quran. Take your time, go through my refutation of the Quran and my views about the alleged miracles of the Quran or the claim that it is "scientific". Write to me ONLY after you read few of the articles posted in this site. Most if not all your arguments are already answered.
The best way to win an opponent is to know him and learn about his weaknesses. So read carefully. Don't try to prove to me that Islam is right. Prove to me that my accusations against Muhammad are wrong. But first read the charges and my proofs.
Ali Sina
please read the debate page and if you want to send your refutation post it in our forum.
The following are a few names that have been invited to defend their claim on Islam but declined.
Dr. John Esposito
Ali Sina's open letter to Prof. Michael Sells
Dr Zakir Naik never accepted to respond to my charges against Islam.
The World's Greatest Showman is a conclusive rebuttal of all Dr. Naik's claims.
Huda at About.com
Please send your invitation to any Muslim scholar you know and invite him to defend Islam.
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82 But if they turn away from you, (O Prophet remember that) your only duty is a clear delivery of the Message (entrusted to you).
6:107 Yet if God had so willed, they would not have ascribed Divinity to aught besides him; hence, We have not made you their keeper, nor are you (of your own choice) a guardian over them.
4:79, 80 (Say to everyone of them,) 'Whatever good betides you is from God and whatever evil betides you is from your own self and that We have (O Prophet) sent you to mankind only as a messenger and all sufficing is God as witness. Whoso obeys the Messenger, he indeed obeys God. And for those who turn away, We have not sent you as a keeper."
11:28 (Noah to his people) He (Noah) said "O my people! think over it! If 1 act upon a clear direction from my Lord who has bestowed on me from Himself the Merciful talent of seeing the right way, a way which you cannot see for yourself, does it follow that we can force you to take the right path when you definitely decline to take it?
17:53, 54 And tell my servants that they should speak in a most kindly manner (unto those who do not share their beliefs). Verily, Satan is always ready to stir up discord between men; for verily; Satan is mans foe .... Hence, We have not sent you (Unto men O Prophet) with power to determine their Faith.
21:107 to 109 (O Prophet?) 'We have not sent you except to be a mercy to all mankind:" Declare, "Verily, what is revealed to me is this, your God is the only One God, so is it not up to you to bow down to Him?' But if they turn away then say, "I have delivered the Truth in a manner clear to one and all, and I know not whether the promised hour (of Judgment) is near or far."
22:67 To every people have We appointed ceremonial rites (of prayer) which they observe; therefore, let them not wrangle over this matter with you, but bid them to turn to your Lord (since that is the main objective of religion). You indeed are rightly guided. But if they still dispute you in this matter, (then say,) `God best knows (the value of) what you do."
88:21, 22; also see 24:54 And so, (O Prophet!) exhort them your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel them to believe.
48:28 He it is Who has sent forth His Messenger with the (task of spreading) Guidance and the Religion of Truth, to the end that tie make it prevail over every (false) religion, and none can bear witness to the Truth as God does.
36:16, 17 (Three Messengers to their people)Said (the Messengers), "Our Sustainer knows that we have indeed been sent unto you, but we are not bound to more than clearly deliver the Message entrusted to us.'
39:41 Assuredly, We have sent down the Book to you in right form for the good of man. Whoso guided himself by it does so to his own advantage, and whoso turns away from it does so at his own loss. You certainly are not their keeper.
42:6, 48 And whoso takes for patrons others besides God, over them does God keep a watch. Mark, you are not a keeper over them. But if they turn aside from you (do not get disheartened), for We have not sent you to be a keeper over them; your task is but to preach ....
64:12 Obey God then and obey the Messenger, but if you turn away (no blame shall attach to our Messenger), for the duty of Our Messenger is just to deliver the message.
67:25, 26 And they ask, "When shall the promise be fulfilled if you speak the Truth?" Say, "The knowledge of it is verily with God alone, and verily I am but a plain warner."
60:8 Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just.
60:9 Allah only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith, and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these circumstances), that do wrong.
The teachings of the Prophet on how you and I should treat our Non-Muslim friends and neighbours on a day to day basis as well as how to government should treat a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state.
"He who believes in God and the Last Day should honour his guest, should not harm his neighbour, should speak good or keep quiet." (Bukhari, Muslim)
"Whoever hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys God." (Bukhari)
"He who hurts a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state, I am his adversary, and I shall be his adversary on the Day of a Judgement." (Bukhari)
"Beware on the Day of Judgement; I shall mysefl be complainant against him who wrongs a Non-Muslim citizen of a Muslim state or lays on him a responsibility greater than he can bear or deprives him of anything that belongs to him." (Al-Mawardi)
"Anyone who kills a Non-Muslim who had become our ally will not smell the fragrance of Paradise." (Bukhari)
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