How about real democracy in America for a start??? I do not regard one vote every four years as democratic and who are you to say surely anything is better for a country you probably haven't visited or have no knowledge of the faith of the Iraqi people that states they shall live by God's law and not Man. If Iraq is to be truely democratic it will surely be Islamic which is why I do not believe Iraq can ever be democratic as long as there is an Islam hating Jew loving drunk America to stop it being it's natural self.

One must consider the possibility that Asif Khan's posts are monitored, and that he is aware of that fact.

Obviously the truth is hurtful to all of you, I cannot offer you any ease from that. The people of Iraq are level headed and reasonable, it is interesting to note how you assume all Muslims, regardless of how far away from each other they are, or how different their backgrounds, may possibly be linked by a common, all-consumming thought. I am glad you made that statement as it fuels my conviction that America can never have peace with Muslims unless it becomes Muslim itself, this may sound 'extreme' but if you cannot honestly see that what I have said is in reality being acted out by America, only they replace religion with democracy, then there is no reasoning with any of you. Finally, Mr Mike, When I joined openDemocracy i was 21 years old and a 'University' student, I have since graduated. I do not think any of us here, whether in receipt of higher education or not, can in reality analyse the topic of Iraq with any real integrity, this is a playground for political wannabes, our opinions here are not significant to anyone else other than us, I thought you may have realised that. At least. I live in the 'West', the UK in fact, so any anti-western propaganda I may be neck-deep in comes from a 'Western' country, and is freely available, it does not come from any Iraqi youth. My statements are in no way hate-mongering. It is true to say American government loves Jews and Israel, it is up to you to disprove this claim not for me to qualify it. I will of course not interfere in your right to fantasise about what my beliefs are, what my background is and who I may be akin to, no matter how egregious your conclusions are, attacks on my personality stand testament at least to the fact that I have enough academic and life experience not to fall into that trap of bitchiness.