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Gangs and street violence


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In the UK, August 2007, frequent media reports of street killings suggest that there is an increase of street violence, especially affecting young people. The increase may be real, or it may be due merely to increased reporting, since it is quite possible for media filters to create these apparent increases – as happened, for instance, with the great Bristol Baby Snatching wave in the 60s or 70s, which turned out to be a media illusion. In fact, even if there is no increase, we ought to address the problem of street violence. What can be done? The Government will probably bring out another piece of Asbo-type legislation – tough, as usual, on crime, but completely blind to the causes of crime, because looking at the causes of crime would involve Government in radical thinking, and also in challenges to business, and Government is averse to both. There is no one, single, magic-bullet solution to the problem; this is a problem with a human social system, and only a systems approach, covering many changes, preferably simultaneously, will help to solve it. The problem will demand a systems approach, gathering together all the many and diverse factors that create gang culture and delinquency, since human society is a system, which means that each constituent part contributes to the whole, and the whole has an effect on each part. The aspects that need to be discussed are: Physical, Psychological, familial, community and social, cultural, juridical, economic and ethical. Physical There is sound evidence for the effects on behaviour of toxins (e.g. lead) and diet on community behaviour. Environmental cleanups, and taxes on food additives, will make fundamental changes to behaviour. Drugs play an important part in the gang economy. The radical approach to the drug problem is for governments to buy the drugs from the farmers in Afghanistan and Colombia and either burn them or use them as legitimate medicines. Opium in particular is needed in Africa, where many cancer patients are dying without adequate pain relief. At the other end of the physical spectrum is the matter of availability of guns and knives. Clearly it is time for another amnesty on weapons, which not only reduces the availability, but also sends a signal to society of their unacceptability. There are already laws governing carrying of weapons. Ammunition can easily be identified by trained dogs. The number of these dogs can be increased, and if they are sited at the point where crows are in file, for instance, at the head of escalators, they can pick out individuals carrying firearms. All guns should have their ballistic identity established prior to sale. Anyone buying a gun should be put through psychological profiling. The costs of all gun and ammunition control measure should be put on the item itself, through increased VAT. Psychological A gang is an extended ego, and an immature ego defines itself in opposition to other selves or gangs. A perception of not belonging to the greater society will create a gang culture. It may be that the absence of any rite of passage in our society contributes to the gang culture. This is a matter where Government should commission a review of the literature. Lack of self esteem is commonly thought to lie at the root of anti-social behaviour. In fact, the evidence points the other way, and that most anti-social individuals think too much of their own needs and not enough of the needs of others. Familial Parent craft can be taught to failing parents, and can also be added to the school syllabus. The problem is to persuade Government to supply the funding for training up parent craft teachers, and for the process of teaching. Experience in the NHS shows that when parent craft was adopted as a strategy, it was expected to be taught by health visitors out of existing budgets. Community and society It is known that the sense of community can be built up by means of well-resourced community workers. http://www.greenhealth.org.uk/BillsofHealth.soc.htm One worker and a dedicated communal space can make a significant difference to the way a community functions. The outlay from government would be trivial, the benefits enormous. It may be that certain exceptional people will form their own neighbourhood response to the threat of street violence. Some may even take direct action, either in terms of vigilantism, or preventive, by closing outlets of guns and knives, perhaps by super-gluing the locks of local gun and knife shops, or by publicly smashing violent video games and CDs. The community reaction is the key to successful action since anti-social behaviour is essentially anti-social. Philosophically, society is now a difficult concept. Although Margaret Thatcher’s famous dictum “There is no such thing as society” is now quietly rejected by her own party, the philosophy of individualism still underpins all economic thinking, in the shape of free-market capitalism. Corporations are granted the status of legal individuals, with the rights of a real person, but only limited responsibility, enshrined in the legal framework of limited liability. This pervasive individualism (which expresses itself in common thought as “You’ve got to look after number one”) needs to be challenged philosophically. There is such a thing as society, and society needs to reassert its claims over the delinquent individual and delinquent groups. Cultural The intellectual establishment is in denial over the evidence regarding the effect of culture on behaviour. There is strong resistance to the idea that films, music and electronic games can influence what people do, but the evidence is nevertheless in existence. Since there is no consensus, Government should commission a review of the evidence. The problem here is that Government, due to free-market assumptions, and due to the way that political parties are financed, is not about to challenge the power of the film industry, since it would be accused of censorship. A courageous Government nevertheless would at least impose a levy on cultural products sufficient to pay for the research on their effects on society, and once consensus is achieved, to pay for the effects on society itself. The effects of media on behaviour is reviewed here: http://www.greenhealth.org.uk/BoHmediaImp.htm In the mean time, it is up to families and communities to take direct action on violent cultural items if they are convinced that they are having a bad effect on the young by banning them and demonstratively destroying them in public. Juridical Government needs no encouragement to bring in new laws to punish or attempt to prevent crime. The principle is that punishment should fit the crime. Jail should only be used for individuals who are a danger to society. Community service (now renamed Unpaid Work) is the way forward. It is cheaper and more effective than prison. Unpaid work in forestry and gardening is particularly therapeutic. Economic A divided society can expect to find its youth alienated. The UK has a highly divergent economy, with the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer. There is evidence that this has an adverse effect on health http://www.greenhealth.org.uk/BillsofHealth.pov.htm , and it is highly probable that it has a similar effect on anti-social behaviour. It would be highly challenging, but highly rewarding, to reform the UK economy so that the fortunes of rich and poor become convergent. At present, the benefit system tends to keep people in the unemployment trap. Citizen’s Income, implemented as a Green Wage Subsidy, is a cost-effective way of getting people off the dole and into good work. Ethical Alienation, anomie, boredom, pointlessness; all words that describe the attitude of a lost generation. In tribal societies, fifteen year old males are apprentice hunters, learning the skills of their elders while providing the athleticism and energy to make the kill. In some way, we need to re-position our urban youth. Sport is one way of sublimating energy. Paid community work, in improving the visual amenity, clearing rubbish, and helping old people with their gardens are all effective ways of increasing engagement. Overall, street violence is one expression of the individualistic stance, where the planet and other people are obliged to serve the individual ego. This attitude has to be reversed. Conclusion In conclusion, the only effective response to the increasing culture of violence is a holistic and systematic correction of many problems in our society and our economy. The needed reforms are radical, and will only come about when society has reached a point of desperation. It is our job to show that there is a rational plan of action available to rectify the situation.



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Parent craft can be taught to failing parents

Since we are discussing prevention: what exactly would be considered parental failure? And do these failing parents get to choose whether they go to the classes or not

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At the other end of the physical spectrum is the matter of availability of guns and knives. Clearly it is time for another amnesty on weapons, which not only reduces the availability, but also sends a signal to society of their unacceptability. There are already laws governing carrying of weapons.

gang violence = unwillingness to participate in whats socially unacceptable?

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It may be that certain exceptional people will form their own neighbourhood response to the threat of street violence. Some may even take direct action, either in terms of vigilantism, or preventive, by closing outlets of guns and knives, perhaps by super-gluing the locks of local gun and knife shops, or by publicly smashing violent video games and CDs.

...oh, you mean free advertising!

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Citizen’s Income, implemented as a Green Wage Subsidy, is a cost-effective way of getting people off the dole and into good work.

How will you qualify for this green wage subsidy?

Amount of arrests?

  Jail time?

Or do you just have to be unemployed?

 Will they ever be able to advance beyond making more money than when they sell drugs? Most likely they will get their green wage subsidy (garden work.. whatever) and still sell drugs. criminals have ambition too, ya know :-)

 A thoughtful child with a positive self image.. etc. is not created by government programs. Parents and extended family need to be  involved in their childrens lives. Otherwise too bad about the street or video games having more influence on  your child than you.

Creating dependency and handing over responsibility to the government to raise children properly is not a solution for gang violence, in my self righteous opinion. ;-)




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Rising violence??

I agree we have a problem but I believe the evidence would suggest no statistically significant rise in gun crime over the last 10 years or so. It is very hard to get at proper statistics and I am going on memory from some figures in the Independent a short while ago. The number of deaths is quite low and would be remarkable to most people in the USA for example. A blog which gives a balanced and seemingly well researched view on this is:

http://brightonregencylabourparty.blogspot.com/2005/11/gun-facts.html

Of note is the drop in gun related deaths following the total ban on handguns in 1997 and a subsequent rise in crimes using replica guns. Also I would expect an increase in "gun crime" to be higher because the act of having a gun is itself a crime.As you suggested Richard, there is an element of the press finding something to feed on.

I did not understand your comments regarding gun suppliers, Richard. That is not something that can be done legally. I would guess that very few of the guns, certainly handguns, on the street are, or likely ever have been, legally supplied in the UK. Of course there are other sorts of lethal weapons, including some low power air pistols, replica guns, paintball guns etc that can be acquired, and there are plenty of shotguns about (historically) that can be sawn off to be used at short range. But the press are emphasising handguns.

I think there have been a number of killings involving young, sometimes very young, people which has been the most shocking. It is probably unwise to over-react though. I suspect the problems really stem, not from any deep seated change of character of youth today, but as a consequence of better communication. By that I mean the media as a whole. Ideas, fashion etc spread quickly and can become widespread whether they be benign or not. Gang culture has not suddenly been independently invented in all the inner cities. It has developed because there is a fashion for it. Much of it can be harmless but it needs watching.




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Candace wrote:

what exactly would be considered parental failure? And do these failing parents get to choose whether they go to the classes or not

Parents often ask for help from GP or school with children that are having problems.

gang violence = unwillingness to participate in whats socially unacceptable?

er..no.

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Citizen’s Income, implemented as a Green Wage Subsidy, is a cost-effective way of getting people off the dole and into good work.
How will you qualify for this green wage subsidy?

By being out of work and finding someone offering work that is of benefit to society or environment. You then get to take your benefit in to work with you, and the employer tops it up to the rate for the job.
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Creating dependency and handing over responsibility to the government to raise children properly is not a solution for gang violence, in my self righteous opinion. ;-)

Agreed.



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I'm with Englishman...

I agree with much of what Englishman has argued - indeed, his post is backed by Home Office figures which suggest that gun crime, far from being a 'problem' for some unfortunate youngsters, is in fact a mercifully rare occurrence.

To label such rare occurrences as a 'culture' is to exaggerate what is, to all intents and purposes, isolated incidents. The truth is, these isolated tragedies reveal next to nothing about British society. If anything, it is your response to such rare killings that reveals your views of, and alienation from, young people in the UK in the here and now.

I don't know about you Richard, but I owned at least 3 air guns in my teenage years, and a rifle - of course, I would never shoot anyone with them, but having an air gun is almost a passage of rites for most teenage boys in London and Manchester. Indeed, according to Home Office figures, air guns make up nearly half of all gun related crime in England and Wales. This comes as no real surprise to me.

This seemingly appears as if you have made a rash foray into an area of specialism that lies well outside your normal area of expertise. The reason I say that is because nothing you have mentioned is backed by any real hard evidence, or how some environmentalists love to say, that they are 'armed with The Science' - with a capital T and S.

So, one thing I could evaluate from all of this, is that you appear to be projecting a rather unfounded fear about todays youth - unjustifiably.




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Clarification
Hello Courtney This is what I wrote: "In the UK, August 2007, frequent media reports of street killings suggest that there is an increase of street violence, especially affecting young people. The increase may be real, or it may be due merely to increased reporting, since it is quite possible for media filters to create these apparent increases – as happened, for instance, with the great Bristol Baby Snatching wave in the 60s or 70s, which turned out to be a media illusion. In fact, even if there is no increase, we ought to address the problem of street violence". To clarify what I said, that idea that street shootings are on the increase may be due to reports in the newspapers &c, since it is quite possible for journalists to create these apparent increases, and I went on to give an example of when journalists in Bristol did just that a few years back. The media can create ideas in peoples' heads that are not really there. (Home Office statistics can also do that sometimes). However, even if the journalists have been bigging it up, street shootings are still a problem, if only for the friends and relatives of the person who gets shot. I am sorry I did not express myself clearly enough first time round, and I hope that I have got the message acoss now. Richard