just curious

I've read many times that muslim unity is the answer for most of the middle eastern problems. What exactly is that and how is it established? Does unity involve discovering which school of Islamic thought and/or cultural interpretation gets to dominate the Islamic world in this one political rule? Is unity the acceptance of differences in muslim countries? Does this decision ultimately have to be made by the outcome of threats and reality of violence, or debate? How does an honest debate occur without threats of murder for having the wrong opinion? I would also like to know if muslims think this unity could possibly be achieved without the independent insight of women.

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abdulksaida
2 December 2007 - 6:54pm

candace

we wish that all arabic and muslim countries unite in one opinion and it is logic that when many people are together they would be more powerful and now europe unite and if we want to be effective also especially in resolving the ME conflict, we must have one voice and not divisable

of course women will share and she is very important element, in all issues of lifes.

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MarciaMarcia
3 December 2007 - 3:50pm
abdulksaida wrote:
we wish that all arabic and muslim countries unite in one opinion and it is logic that when many people are together they would be more powerful
Unite in one opinion about what? Are you talking about the Caliphate, or are you refering to the problem of the uncompromising way in which "some men" in Arab and Muslim countries cope with being offended by different opinions.
MarciaMarcia
3 December 2007 - 3:56pm
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of course women will share and she is very important element, in all issues of lifes.
yes, as long as they don't argue with what the men decide is the one opinion.
owly
2 December 2007 - 7:22pm

The problems in the Middle East would be far easier to solve is Muslims weren't quite so keen to kill one another.

While abdulksalda might think women 'will share' in this glorious dream one doubts she would have equal rights with men, although on past form she doesn't seem that bothered about that.

It would also be a mark of progress if they were more accepting of other beliefs and religions. But least there will be lots of other people to persecute - Jews, Christians etc and lets not even mention the treatment of Homosexuals.    

owly
3 December 2007 - 6:41pm

BigC, 

Its a pity you don't read more about the Middle East, Islam and Muslims attitudes towards other faiths.

For a start it is impossible to build a church, let alone hold a Christian service, in Saudi Arabia. I for one have made this point before, and the attitude of our Muslim posters is one of indifference or actually agreeing with this proscription. Also no Christian many visit Mecca. So I'm glad you see this as 'completely accepting of other faiths'. In Egypt until very recently it was impossible to build or to repair a church without the approval of the President. Coptic Christians were long established in Egypt before Mohammed was even born. I did meet a man in New York who had been a high ranking Civil Servant in Cairo but had been forced to flee because of Muslim intolerance. He was a Coptic Christian.

As to your point re Nazi concentration camps I believe you are wrong. Many of the SS Guards were actually Germans. You might also like to know that in Sudan at least 2 million people have been murdered by Islamic 'forces' and 4 million forced to flee.

One could go on and on listing examples here and now of Islams intolerance to those of other faiths but such examples would not suit your 'rant'.

Oh and by the way the West had nothing to do with the rise to power of either the Saudis or indeed of Nasser in Egypt. Sorry to spoil that little 'rant'.  

 

   

 

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