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GAZA: STOP BLOCKADE AND WAR. Sign the Petition now!Solve Forgets One Import To Gaza
Solve; You forgot to mention Hamas' import of guns, ammuniton and rocket parts to Gaza. They seem to have no shortage of those materials. Why is That? Does Hamas have its priorities wrong? If Hamas stopped importing war material, the import of consumer goods would flow in.
Submitted on Thu, 2008-01-24 01:29
reply before hamas also israel was a terror state
it is not hamas or anyone, it is the intention of israel to steal more land and occupied paleatinians . Rockets is only recent, where is the releive and letting palestinians living with dignity before more than 50 years. Please think logically, it is only execuses,and even if hamas stop ususless rockets , the occupation will remain and struggle and suffer of palestinaisn will remain and israel will kill daily palestiniasn to let people revenge by rockinting them and give the world an execuse wich is not fact.
Submitted on Thu, 2008-01-24 05:04
reply thanks solve
i will travel today ,. i sign petition, i will try to tell others to sighn, we need only degnity and liberation as all other people in the world. Trrysborn and mike wants collective punishments , so do they agree if we consider all jewish people , kids, women and civilians as targets and as soldiers, No we have more logic and think more, so i think they wants that, so why they want only hamas to stop and not asking the aggression to stop.
Submitted on Thu, 2008-01-24 05:09
reply collective punishment?
addulksaida, The palestinians in Gaza voted and elected Hamas. It`s very simple: If they want the blockage to end, they should simple stop launching rockets into Israel.
Submitted on Fri, 2008-01-25 10:47
reply 
 Logic would be a nice start for the Palestinians.
[quote] Trrysborn and mike wants collective punishments , so do they agree if we consider all jewish people , kids, women and civilians as targets and as soldiers, [/quote] Palestinians already consider all jewish people targets. Rockets and suicide bombs do not discriminatebetween combatants and non-combatants, do they? If you want the petition to be effective, petition EGYPT to create border crossings to ease the suffering of their arab brothers and ensure weapons and explosives are not smuggled back into Gaza. For the record, I am in favor of collective responsibility and accountability. If Palestinian civilians were responsible, they would stop the attacks and force their government to negotiate...except their government pledges to never negotiate with Israel, right? It really makes "Palestinian Logic" an oxymoron.
Submitted on Thu, 2008-01-24 18:27
reply A Step In The Right Direction
Abdulksaida; Everyone would like to see a peaceful outcome in this conflict. Unfortunately, the leaders chosen by the Palestinians to resolve it are the worse possible choices (continued conflict, continued suffering). What do you think they can really accomplish? You need fresh leadership with new ideas and tactics. Tell me I am wrong.
Submitted on Thu, 2008-01-24 17:54
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Let Egypt deal with Gaza!
Looks like I'm not the only one who favors turning Gaza over to the Egyptians. Editorial in the NY Sun, http://www.nysun.com/article/70096 [quote] Rather than forcing the Gazan Arabs to join with the West Bank Arabs into a state of "Palestine" that has never before existed and has few of the elements of a successful nation-state, why not let Gaza revert to its pre-1967 status as part of Egypt? Egypt, at least is a country with which Israel has a peace treaty and diplomatic relations, which is more than can be said for the Hamas terrorist organization that now controls Gaza. Were Gaza to become an Egyptian responsibility, Israel would no longer be reduced to complaining about arms smuggling across the Gaza-Egypt border. It could hold Egypt directly responsible for the rocket attacks on the Israeli city of Sderot, and America could use its $1.8 billion a year in aid to Egypt as leverage to demand the cessation of the attacks. If the plan of letting Gaza merge into Egypt works, it could be a model for allowing Jordan, another country with which Israel has a treaty of peace, to accept responsibility for parts of the West Bank. In the crisis along the Egypt-Gaza border could lie the seeds of a just resolution to the so-called Palestinian question. [/quote] So amend your petition to include turning Gaza over to the Egyptians! Make them responsible for turning off the flow of weapons and withhold aid if they fail to do so. Of course, the reality is the Egyptians don't want to deal with the Palestinians either. [quote] "This is a wrong assumption," Hossam Zaki, the official spokesman for Egypt's foreign ministry, said of Israeli hints that it was thinking of giving up all responsibility for Gaza, including supplying electricity, now that the territory's southern border with Egypt is open. . . . Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak instructed his forces at the border to detain any Palestinian who illegally crossed the border. . . . Mubarak said that while Egypt would not let them starve, the Palestinian factions must consider the suffering of the Palestinian people above all. The Egyptian president urged the Palestinians not to involve Egypt in their internal disputes, Israel Radio reported. [/quote] http://tinyurl.com/29mnl6 Frankly, I'm shocked at the insensitivity Egypt is showing their arab brothers!
Submitted on Thu, 2008-01-24 21:16
reply which sensitivity
before 2 days, i know that eypt allow palestinians to cross to eypt to provide their children, family with food and fuel which was deprived of it since hamas took the power. really i thanks eypt and the brotherhood of eyptian people, i heard them by TV as wellcoming those starving palestinians, and gave them food and medicine and open their stores for them. Those palestinians were happy for the first time, can u imagin and happy only that they could buy fuel and essential food which most of us dont buy and buy other thing accessories as more lugury. One of the eyptian lady was shouting and said how come we are eyptian sell fuel to israel and dont give it to our brothers palestinians. Really they have a big sinse of morals and even the presidence said that those are hungry people and have to take food as long they are innocent people and dont hold any weapons. For mike and trrysborn and hoby , i think they dont like to understand that simple fact in life and consider them as humans. We are innocent palestinians people are not responsible for the genocide planned to occur for us and we all are pushed to corner to surrender and israel will take all our lands , not only palestine, but others. That is the idea of all lay persons in most arabic and muslim countries.
Submitted on Fri, 2008-01-25 13:33
reply i dont know how u think?
hobby Also the jewish people voted for sharoon and their leaders whom killed so many palestinians, and also agree to live in a stolen land, so are they also responsible and we have to treat them the same as their leaders and soldiers ? i dont know how u think? if e.g your leader did a killing, even if you vote for him before commiting crime, do u bare responsibility and you have to be punished the same please only think mercifully and justly and for us each one is responsible for his sin in this life and in front of God after death
Submitted on Fri, 2008-01-25 13:07
reply 
Exaggeration, and talk of 'genocide'
"[P]alestinians people are not responsible for the genocide planned to occur for us". So where exactly are the clearly stated policies of Israel that indicate the presence of an intent to destroy all or part of the Palestinian peoples? Please enlighten me - or did the words 'planned' come from your rather overactive imagination. I suppose if you say something often enough, people will start believing it - whether it is true or not...
Submitted on Fri, 2008-01-25 13:58
reply an intent to destroy all or part of the Palestinian peoples
The intent to ethnically cleanse is abundantly clear. The settlements on stolen Palestinian land. Turning the Occupied Palestinian Territories into concentration camps.
Submitted on Fri, 2008-01-25 14:49
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Ethnically cleanse?
I left out the words 'ethnic' or 'ethnically' on purpose because in terms of 'genocide', it would be impossible for the same ethnic group to cleanse itself. According to recent research in genetic science, Palestinians and Jews actually share a genetic link that would therefore mean they have very similar, or the same ethnic background. The historian and political scientist Dr. Megalommatis, draws a very similar conclusion. It stands to reason that a particular ethnic group cannot really ethnically cleanse itself - can it?
Submitted on Fri, 2008-01-25 15:57
reply ethnically cleanse itself
Ethnic groups are not formed on the conclusions of genetic research. The qualification for admisison to the racist Jewish state is not that you should pass a DNA test but that your mother should be certified culturally Jewish by a rabbi. Palestinian Arabs are not Jews (as it shouldn't be necessary to mention) and so have been ethnically cleansed from Palestine in the hundreds of thousands and the process is ongoing.
Submitted on Fri, 2008-01-25 18:28
reply Herric and Racial Purity
Herric; Your opinion of racial groups is a political one (why am I not surprised?) As DNA testing becomes more common, people will find out that they are not who they think they are. PBS broadcast a recent program in which the DNA of many famous black Americans was tested. Quincy Jones found out that his genetic makeup was 50% European. Orah Winfrey has European genes. Stereotypes may become a thing of the past even in the Mideast.
Submitted on Fri, 2008-01-25 20:12
reply ethnic cleansing
The latest efforts by the nation of Israel are enforced starvation in Gaza. The famished people of Gaza have broken through the wall and swarmed into Egypt to buy basic essentials.
Submitted on Sat, 2008-01-26 00:45
reply Ethnic Exaggeration
Herric; "Enforced starvation" in Gaza? The Palestinians are not rich. They are not dying of starvation in the streets either. The UN provides a great deal of food and money to the Palestinians. Governmental contributions in money amount to well over $1 billion per year even with Hamas in charge. There was talk recently of increasing this amount. Pictures of Palestinians crossing into Egypt do not show them starving. They are going into Egypt to buy consumer goods and cigarettes (which are cheaper in Egypt and can be re-sold at a profit in Gaza) as well as food. In addition to buying necessities, some Palestinians interviewed have said they went into Egypt just to get out of Gaza for a few days. Some want to visit relatives, some want to go to Cairo to look for girls. The Israeli have said they would not blockade Gaza to the point of starvation. They have also said Hamas is hording fuel to create the appearance of distress. The Israelis simply want Hamas to stop launching rockets at their nearby settlements. Hamas launched 225 rockets last week.
Submitted on Sat, 2008-01-26 01:50
reply israel was enstablished on relegious basis
Ttrrysborn Really iam astonished as palestinians were interviewed and be enforced to cross the rafah border to buy their essential food of wheat, oil, fuel and only essential things, may be some buy cigarrets so what of that ? also they have reletives since 10 or more didnt see them, and they were crying that they will see them and also many were sick and buy medicine for their kids, women and old people and dont forget how many patients have already died from the blockage of all ways to hospitals and to the outside world, really they were in prison, but in some advanced country prisinos their is medicine and food better than to live like palestinians in Gaza without anything. They suffer the cold, no electricity, no light, no fuel, no children are going to school to creat an ignorant people. Also i astonish from which source you hear that some palestinians went to eypt for girls, i think that what u think of it, as if palestinians are with hamas, so they will not do it, it is forbidden, we are not living as israeli culture, we dont have boy friend or girlfriend as hamas is relegious and i think palestinians are buzy of trying to find food for their family than to go for girls. Even eypt is a conservative country and they dont permit such that, only palestinians if they want to marry from their relatives in egypt and now with these difficult no body is thinking like that. I think u never visit any arab or muslim country to see lively how they respect their culture and only wants dignity and safe. Israel also knows how to end violation by giving palestinians their legitemate rights and withdraw from what they steal from palestine, or they want to let all palestinians to die and suffer and forget to defend their country which is legitamate, and i will ask you Ttrrysborn , if any army now occupy your country or let you exil from your own home and kill your family and kids, what is your side and how you will act ? simple question
Submitted on Sat, 2008-01-26 15:10
reply The Palestinians Can End Their Own Misery
Abdulksaida; Where do I live? Where exactly do you live? You sound pro-Hamas? If so, you are the one who should be listening. It is one thing to express outrage on a website like OD over Israel's refusal to allow essentials into the Gaza Strip while ignoring the reasons for it (we all know what they are); it is another thing to think that will convince Israelis in towns like Sderot (a prime target of Hamas rockets) to end the blockade. All you are doing here is preying on the gullibility of OD readers, hoping they won't ask too many questions. In some cases it is working. The Israelis are not that gullible. Words aside, there is no excuse for Palestinians shooting 225 rockets into Israel in a five day period. How could you think Israel would not respond? (I've already heard of the low Israeli casualties from these attacks. That's no excuse.) Thousands of rockets have landed in Israel so far. Sooner or later, Hamas will have to negotiate with the people of Sderot and other Israeli towns in to end rocket attacks and restore commerce. You cannot talk around that forever. Like everyone else, I have read the same accounts of Palestinians passing into Egypt. There are thousands of reasons. Buying food, buying cigarettes, buying goods to re-sell. I don't have to make them up. Pictures of healthy Palestinians passing into Egypt are on the internet. Interviews of Palestinians in Egypt expressing their wishes to visit relatives, go to Cairo and meet girls are there too. You honestly think that just because Hamas is in charge of the Gaza Strip that healthy young Palestinians men do not think of girls? Now I'm astonished. It is that kind of mindset which has made compromise between Palestinian and Jew so difficult.
Submitted on Sat, 2008-01-26 18:43
reply it is a fact after 60 years of occupation
Courtney Hamilton It is not only me who think like this, but after 60 years of occupation and daily killing of palestininas and depriving them of all essential elements in life, no school, no food, no fuel, no hope no home , no medicine, no security, even cant pray in al Aqsa mosque freeley, every thing is deprvied of, what do think is that? it is finally will be genocide and also refusing of refugees to return back to their homes, as if that they dont want to consider us palestinians and forget that, so that is type of reaching ethnical cleaning and finally no one be palestinian living . They try to let them all refugee to take their homes again. beleive me after my parents suffer and their refugee and what they and their relatives suffer, so iam not exagerating or dreaming, i saw the facts alive from all my people .
Submitted on Sat, 2008-01-26 15:20
reply Negotiations
Adbulksaida" "Give the Palestinians their legitimate rights"? Rights yes, but: Telling someone to give you EVERYTHING and THEN you MIGHT let them live is not much of a negotiation. Hamas needs a change of leaders and a change of ideas. Your present leaders are leading you to a cliff and telling you jump off for the cause.
Submitted on Sat, 2008-01-26 18:52
reply Before peace negotiations can take place
There can be no peace negotiations before the criminal Jewish State puts itself on the right side of the law. This means, as a first step, evacuating all the settlements and tearing down the Wall on Occupied Palestinian Territory.
Submitted on Sat, 2008-01-26 20:01
reply always more to dispute
[quote]Hamas seized control of the Palestinian territory in June but before the breach, it had no role in policing the border with Egypt. Now the Islamic militant group is hoping that will change now and it is pressing for some kind of future role in border administration. At a meeting in Cairo, Arab governments were forceful in their opposition to that idea. Egypt and the foreign ministers of the Arab League have firmly backed the Palestinian Authority led by moderate President Mahmoud Abbas of Fatah in its power struggle against rival Hamas. They have called for a return to a 2005 international border monitoring agreement that excluded the Islamist organization entirely. "They (Hamas) should not interfere. They should just simply get out of the way and allow this to happen," Palestinian Prime Minister Salam Fayyad, who heads a rival government in the West Bank, told reporters after returning from Cairo. In the divided town of Rafah, however, Hamas forces were very much in control. "There has been continuous and direct cooperation with Egyptian security officials over the last couple of days," said a bearded Hamas security official dressed in blue camouflage and sporting an assault rifle. "They asked us to only allow trucks to enter and not civilian cars to make the operation as orderly as possible." [/quote]
Submitted on Mon, 2008-01-28 23:12
reply Herric Has A Hissy For Hamas
"There can be no peace negotiations before the criminal Jewish State puts itself on the right side of the law"? Congratulations! Glad to see you finally got a full-time job at the Hamas Propoganda Office. Looks like you are putting in a lot of overtime. "right side of the law"? Exactly what laws are you referring to? The World Court has no power of law. By its own rule of requiring consent from both sides, its decision regarding the seperation wall is not a law. At most it is advice, or a non-binding resolution. Speaking of non-binding resolutions, aren't the UN resolutions regarding Israel non-binding also? Doesn't sound like any laws broken to me. (BTW. At the risk of getting you fired at the new job, thank you for not referring to "the Wall" as the "wall of shame" or "the apartheid wall" in your rant. There may be hope for you afterall.)
Submitted on Wed, 2008-01-30 02:24
reply iam not defending hamas
i read quickly some of the arguments, and i know many dont agree the way of hamas, but the suffer of palestininas was also before hamas, and also still we are refugee and in exiles, still iam telling those arab voices who only condemn hamas to have the same tone to condemn israel first who creat all these mess of hamas and fath and many different palestininas groups to fight and each one have different agenda than the other as i say i will respect those voices whom also say all the suffer of palestininas are not with hamas or fath or any group , the source of suffer is when israel stole our land and make palestininas without degnity scattered all over the worl, the arab voices have to be neutral and know that all the world fight hamas as it based on relegious roots and that is the only reason, and they have to ask them selves why palestinians elect hamas, as corruption was auful in the previous group and the whole world fight for those people. The arabs have at leas if they want to condemn hamas to start first with israel and US wich they have the solution right now if they wish, but for othe agenda, i dont know are we all arabs writers are stupid and dont know who start the struggle and misery of palestinians , it is israel and US and after we know the root of the conflict then we will come and condemn each other, really it is shame as we cant see the correct path to follow, and what is planned for us, and many times hamas didnt launch any usuless rockets and israel starts to be angry as if israel wants hamas to launch rockets to kill all palestinians and collective punishment, i want to say even if hamas is in correct of launching rockets, so why israel are not human beings and revenge also by killing kids who dont vote for hamas or others is that justice and that is the law of jungle only.
Submitted on Tue, 2008-01-29 07:43
reply Abdulksaida,
I didn’t get
Abdulksaida, I didn’t get the feeling that the people quoted from Arab media favored Israel over the Palestinians;
Submitted on Tue, 2008-01-29 17:14
reply A Few Questions About Palestinian Losses
Abdulksaida; You say often that Israel stole your land. Since the actual land is the issue for individual Palestinians such as yourself a few questions become apparent: Exactly how many Palestinians actually owned land in l948? Weren't the vast majority of Palestinians landless? If they did not own land, what did they really lose? Regardless of what was lost, did the Palestinians lose it, or abandon it? Why did so many Palestinians stay behind in Israel after l948?
Submitted on Wed, 2008-01-30 02:13
reply who started it
European Jewish immigrants who ethnically cleansed Palestine of many of its local residents and are continuing the colonisation of the country to this day.
Submitted on Tue, 2008-01-29 19:28
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GAZA: STOP BLOCKADE AND WAR. Sign the Petition now!
The years-old blockade of Gaza is at crisis point: with the humanitarian crisis growing, the southern border has been breached and 350,000 Palestinians are pouring across. The situation is out of control -- the world must step in.
To prevent catastrophe and protect civilians on all sides, your voice is needed urgently: we’re running an emergency global campaign to international, European and Arab leaders, calling on them to stop the siege, oversee open borders and help broker a ceasefire. We’ll deliver the petition when we reach 150,000 signatures - please add your name below, then spread the word:
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