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Momo
17 December 2009 - 6:05pm

I am getting another sort of popup continually (only when I am on oD). A warning that my computer is trying to download. Author is MS (says the warning), site sounds fishy.

Thomas Ash
17 December 2009 - 6:14pm

That's very strange - can you send me a screenshot? My address is thomas dot ash @ od

Thomas Ash
17 December 2009 - 6:15pm

Also, if anyone has a similar problem can they let me know, with as many details as possible. Thanks.

Iron Mike
17 December 2009 - 8:02pm

I already posted about this in your other thread about the new forum.  Details over there.

Iron Mike
18 December 2009 - 1:49am

Tom,

Unable to send a link to the report.  Microsoft is reporting the following alert. 

"SmartScreen filter cannot check this website because the Microsoft online service is temporarily unavailable."

Thomas Ash
18 December 2009 - 10:37am

Thanks Mike, let us know if you have any better luck.

We have now done a thorough check and found that the only problem was one that we resolved yesterday - now we just have to wait for Google to clear us (it'll take its own sweet time I'm afraid - a reader suggested to me that the whole thing was just a marketing exercise for Chrome).

Thomas Ash
18 December 2009 - 1:12pm

We now have a full report on the problem we had, along with advice to readers at http://www.opendemocracy.net/info/information-about-security-warnings-on-opendemocracys-site-17-december-2009 . But do provide any more comments or reports in this thread...

cedric (Ric)williams
18 December 2009 - 5:53pm

My website is " First Fleet On. Williams/Nash Pioneers Australia."Several days ago I was shocked to find the red warning that my website was not safe.

The reasons given was that it contains malware coming from opendemocracy.net. I went to opendemocracy.net and found (I think for the first time) a very informative website with  the contents of which i am in complete general agreement. I was not aware there was any link to my blog either way.

I put on spybot and it came back clean. I changed Internet Explorer, putting on  I.E.8 and in doing so it checked for malware....and it came up clean. I use mostly chrome and sometimes firefox. Firefox does not seem to give the warning but Chrome does.

I am very perturbed about the warning. Already my readership has plummeted to a trickling few. Is there anything you can do to alleviate the situation or give some advice? Your website still has the warning as has mine  up to several minutes ago.

 

My belief is the warnings are from manipulated malware which is done to curb free speech as I have been particularly concerned about American politics and foreign wars.

Several weeks ago i became aware that there were some two or three websites with names almost the same as my site but with the additional "39" added in one case and another with my website name plus "america." These are porn sites and though I did not open them completely, they seemed to be kiddie porn.

I advised Google abuse and I have not yet checked today if those offending sites are still there.

Also some sites that mention my site incidentally giving a link, cause the information to arise that there is no such site as my site.

What can be done. I think there are a lot more sites prying into sensitive areas of government and "dirty tricks" that might be affected also. Thank you, Ric Williams.

cedric (Ric)williams
18 December 2009 - 5:57pm

I see that you have a marker on my comment not verified. Please go ahead and verify it then. Ric Williams.

Thomas Ash
19 December 2009 - 10:05am

Ryan, can you send a screenshot of the warning you get mentioning us to thomas dot ash @ [oD's domain]? Thanks; I've removed 'not verified' from non-registered users now that we are de-emphasising registration.

Iron Mike
19 December 2009 - 11:25am

Tom,

Are you sure you want to remove "not verified" from non-registered users?  Does that mean any Anonymous poster can post so without a Captcha?   I hope not. 

People should be encouraged to register their accounts.  The "carrot" for registration should be not having to deal with Captcha.  We've seen in the past that unfettered Anonymous posting is a magnet to SPAM bots.  Do you want Open Democracy or Open Anarchy?  :-)

bigC
19 December 2009 - 5:50pm

I'm a little worried about that too Thomas.  Especially as we no longer seem to be using the approval queue.  I'm finding it quite tedious going through all posts to look for spam.  It'll be even harder if it's less easy to spot the spamsters by their monikas.

cedric williams
19 December 2009 - 8:35pm

  I am pleased to report that the red warning popup has been removed from my site.  I would welcome any opendemocracy.net readers to examine my site and give me some advice. I am doing everything on my own, and being 77 years old, I am getting pretty tired. Cedric Williams

First Fleet  On. Williams/Nash Pioneers Australia.

bigC
19 December 2009 - 9:50pm

There's a few controversial opinions which I wouldn't agree with (Have a look at our Americanization thread under Forums) there Ric but it's very nicely done.  My only advice would be to keep it up. 

Thomas Ash
19 December 2009 - 9:12pm

There's no need to worry - non-registered users have no new permissions, and will still be subject to a CAPTCHA if it looks like there's a possibility their comments might be spam (there should never have been a CAPTCHA if this was clearly not the case, though I don't know how well the system has been working?). They just no longer have 'not verified' after their names, which some get confused/concerned by.

How do you think removing CAPTCHAs for all comments by registered users (even those which look to the system like they could be span) has been working?

bigC
19 December 2009 - 9:36pm

It shouldn't be a problem Thomas, provided we have a manual mechanism for catching the stuff that the filter misses.  That was the beauty of the approval queue.  Non verifieds and recently registereds had their stuff checked and then published.  The technology can do that for the bulk of the spam  but it takes a human brain to recognise some of the cleverer stuff which often looks like genuine contribution until properly scrutinised.

bigC
20 December 2009 - 11:44am
That's 3 lots of Spam I've deleted and reported to Mollom this morning.
bigC
20 December 2009 - 2:14pm
Make that 4
Thomas Ash
21 December 2009 - 11:02am

Let me know if you find it too much and want to go back to captchas for contributions from registered users which the system thinks might be spam - or is this spam coming from non-registered users anyway? (You can tell these contributions from the 'not verified' still visible at /admin/content/comment - the closest thing there is for the old approval queue for non-registered users)

bigC
21 December 2009 - 1:34pm

Thanks Thomas.  I'll keep a note of which type they are. 

Momo
2 January 2010 - 1:25pm

Thomas, have you got my e-mail with the screenshot now? I sent it a 2nd time, and I have no idea what happened to the 1st e-mail, which you didn’t get.

Thomas Ash
2 January 2010 - 8:26pm

Yes Momo, thanks - I got it the second time. That's the first such case we've seen, so it was clearly a good idea to be cautious... I do hope no one chose to download the trojan.

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