Taken from the Huffington Post:
Osama Bin Laden is dead, President Obama will announce, according to multiple news organizations. The U.S. is in possession of his body, a person familiar with the situation told the Associated Press late Sunday.
President Obama is scheduled to address the nation on the developments Sunday night.
It was unclear where how bin Laden was killed and how the U.S. captured his body.
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Fair enough! I sincerely
Fair enough! I sincerely hope the Palestinian people earn that opportunity through peaceful means. But let's be honest and not make claims of a superior Islamic democracy, because your Islamic vision of democracy is hardly democratic and superiority is in the eye of the beholder.
just now i finished seeing
Also Dr norman when he
Saida, Norman Finkelstein was
Saida, Norman Finkelstein was denied tenure at DePaul University, a well-respected school, because of his personal attacks on Holocaust scholars and his hyperpoliticization of his classes. He's out of a job because his extremist views were too much to bear, even for a university.
I'm not surprised you like what he had to say, but you should keep in mind that he's a self-loathing Jew who rails against people who "make money off the Holocaust" ... while lining his pockets with fat speaker's fees for doing exactly the same thing.
I think I found the
I think I found the Palestinian woman Finkelstein visited...or perhaps her sister here. English subtitles included for all you zionist infidels.
mike again silly posts and
Exactly what did you find
Exactly what did you find nonsense in the interview with the old woman? I thought you would agree with her call for wiping out Israel and urging her fellow Palestinians to kill all the Jews as they did in Hebron. Are you not in agreement with her?
More importantly, how does Israel negotiate peace with such people? The message here is that the American people lose sympathy for the Palestinians when THIS irratonal hatred is the face of your movement. When you justify and rationalize these attitudes of hate (as you have and will continue to do), your support gets weaker and the support for Israel grows. Think about it.
Are YOU not in agreement with
Are YOU not in agreement with her?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkCBK4-5tRI&feature=share
or her?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2AaDg7-zD0&feature=related
or her?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH0o_07BBk0&NR=1
Aren’t you in agreement with the most moral army in the world protecting Israeli children who throw rocks at Palestinian children from retaliation?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6zjnsaKXHg&feature=related
More importantly, how does Palestine negotiate peace with such people? The message here is that the world population lose sympathy for the Israelis when THIS irratonal hatred is the face of your movement. When you justify and rationalize these attitudes of hate (as you have and will continue to do), your support gets weaker and the support for Palestine grows. Think about it.
More importantly, how does
Well, they could start by throwing out their terrorist Government Hamas, stop the rocket attacks and bombings, acknowledge that both the nations of Palestine and Israel have a right to exist, and commit themselves to peaceful protest as a means of achieving statehood. Simple.
True. Irrational hatred on BOTH sides leaves world opinion polarized and unsupportive of EITHER side. Glad you are coming around.
Well, Israelis could start by
Well, Israelis could start by throwing out their terrorist Government, stop the rocket attacks and bombings, land thefts, water thefts, stop keeping large parts of the Palestinian population in an open air prison, acknowledge that both the nations of Palestine and Israel have a right to exist, and commit themselves to making sure that every Palestinian enjoys freedom and justice as a means of achieving peace. Simple
“Irrational hatred on BOTH sides leaves world opinion polarized and unsupportive of EITHER side”
Quite. But with the violence being almost entirely Israeli, and the Palestinians being treated so grossly injustly the world opinion shifts very much towards the Palestinian side. Normal people tend to sympathise with David, not with Goliath.
I'm also happy to say the
I'm also happy to say the mystery details of OBL's burial at sea have now been released. You can find all your questions answered here.
mike I dont know, but it
So you have no sense of humor
So you have no sense of humor either? Our commedians are having great fun at OBL's expense. I mean really! What a great seat-belt reminder!
mike silly advertisement
You're right that I don't
You're right that I don't believe in fate and I don't believe God wants anyone to die. So what? That does not make me a hater of Muslims or Islam. I don't hate anybody. But I do see Islamo-fascism as a threat and will do my part to defeat it. And that's why I will never be like you (democraphobia).
i dont like sense of humour
candace you want to tell
candace you want to tell that as long as muslims use force against whom first use force against them, it is not permissible. why ??? even i dislike force in all sort of life even to use it with kids, but it is not logic.
Saida,
I said that your support for the use of force that reliably punishes Palestinians doesn't make sense given your complaints about Israel. I did not say that Muslims shouldn't be allowed to use force. My criticism in that conflict has nothing to do with Muslims, its about priorities.
Al Qaeda is an enemy of this country. Strange that you would come here praising Osama Bin Laden, wanting Americans to believe that Al Qaeda represents all Muslims. I dont consider Muslims my enemy, are you saying that I should?
You said you didn't want anymore killing in the world, no more hatred or injustice. You also say the cause of those problems in the Middle East is Israel "being in the middle of arab and muslim countries" Not a convincing statement of your support for a peaceful future or a priority for the health and welfare of Palestinians.
Your message here hasnt allowed room for compromise or different opinions. It seems you don't care how long it takes or if you live to see it happen or how many people die in the process: you are dedicated to helping/supporting anyone fight the US and Israel. Is that right? Somehow its supposed to make you look less like a war monger by saying that Israel started it.
You're outraged that anyone could think a Muslim could be responsible or even criticized for their part in any deaths that occur. Its not your fault you or any other Muslim has to support this, its Israel and the USA.
You think that if we were decent we would agree with you about everything you say. You are an Arab Muslim living in the Middle East and this means you are an authority on the issue. Now you say that because of the reactions to your posts on this forum, you believe there will be a final war between Israel and 'good' Muslims.
We've all had our bad experiences on forums Saida, but thats quite a conclusion to draw from talking to a couple of people you can't see or hear. It also doesnt look like you believe that we all represent ourselves. Talking about Muslims like they are one mind with many bodies might be a unifying concept to you but from over here it looks like you're dehumanizing them for both sides that want war.
Just so you know, criticism of Israel and the US isn't shocking disturbing or new to me or I'm sure to any other American on this forum. It happens in this country and online all the time as well as many other opinions.
I understand that the Middle East is upset with US support for Israel. The thread was about the death of Osama Bin Laden. Reminding you about Muslim deaths, was commenting on your outrage for how he was buried and your claim that his organization represented the interests of Muslims. I was not claiming that the people in the Middle East were only upset over deaths resulting from attacks by Al Qaeda.
Obl was a fundamentalist
Obl was a fundamentalist islamist "facist" enemy of the free secular world. I'm willing as Thomas Jefferson once said "To take enemies of the at their word". I'm not inclined to Islamic fundamentalist sensitivities so I believe the autopsy and photos should be released
OK Bruce, consider it done.
OK Bruce, consider it done. I'll have that information released right away. Thanks for asking.
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