it is not a right to kill anyone without trial and to enter his home like this.

But it's okay to kill anyone with a suicide bombing or enter their homes with rockets  IF you are Palestinian and the victims are Israeli Jews. 

Got it.

Hypocrite!

Ah, here is something new: there are more doubts if OBL was killed for offering unspecified resistance. His daughter claims he was captured and then killed, and people start to wonder about Obama’s wording.

I doubt that we will ever find out the truth, but the questions will remain.

Why was there no autopsy? Why was the body quickly dumped in the sea?

The US didn’t want due process, they can’t complain if people start to speculate. I told you this would backfire and deservedly so. Nobody and no country is above the law.

Momo

you know me from my writings i never offend any relegion and i liked relegious people from any kind of relegion and here in my home people of all sorts of relegion and non relegion. what gather us the honesty and good morals.

any way i dont know how mike  thinks? is all the army of USA is like mike mentality? they disrespect islam and muslims

it is a big lier as 24 hrs to saty. some stay for 1 week e.g if the relatives will come to him . iam a muslim and i know. even in the normal way never before 24 hrs to burry. i have a close experience. he is telling rubbish and silly and he thinks that we are muslims care about his rubbish. really astonishing. really no respect to such writings of him. He gave us a bad reputation of his career not as killing people but as also stupid. Momo sorry to say it seems to me that he is out of his mind or he wants to show us that.

barak obama is also a criminal with his team.

It’s a bellicist attitude, Saida, and you aren’t free from it either. I think it is clear that Mike talks more about Muslims than with Muslims. And, er, hatred and war … he didn’t like the thread, but the topic keeps cropping up. He is at war with Muslims. (Mike, I know what you’re going to say now, don’t bother. You are. And if you insist on denying it: I am talking about the sum of your expressions of support and disdain. I made a subjective assessment of the totality of your postings and rendered a personal opinion.)

And you are at war with Israel. He blames you for it. He blames you for hatred and injustice against Israel, and accuses you of hating Jews and wanting to hurt every single Israeli. In your more emotional posts you give this impression. Since I read not only your emotional posts but the rational ones too, I know that you can distinguish between Israel and its policies on the one side, and Israeli citizens and even more, Jews on the other.

It’s funny that you both are unable to label these emotions. I can assure you, they can last for generations.

I find the US policy very odd in this case. I don’t mean the killing itself (where I find no evidence that the US ever intended to capture OBL), I mean everything around it. The infamous burial, no autopsy, no photos, odd statements that are quickly withdrawn and replaced by more odd statements. Do the US want conspiracy theories? Does Roger pay them, or why are they doing that? One explanation is the use of this murder for Obama’s re-election campaign, where it is obviously an advantage with right-wing voters to discard all attempts of lawful behaviour towards terrorists. On the other hand this is clearly damaging abroad. The US government must know that. Why are they unable to invent a coherent narrative? I find that puzzling.

I serve proudly every day along side of Muslim American airmen.  We serve together in solidarity. That's good enough for me and them. 

The US government must know that. Why are they unable to invent a coherent narrative? I find that puzzling.

I think that's actuallly a great question.  I think the answer is the Obama administration painted themselves into a corner when it came to the war on terror.  They invested so much during the campaign, demonizing Bush and denying it was a war and denying OBL was a combatant instead of a criminal.  When it came down to executing a capture mission, they had a dilemma.  Now we hear the Attorney General doing quite a tap-dance in the press to re-cast OBL in a military context to justify the action taken.

Truthfully, while I believe the Pentagon reports this was capture or kill mission, I do believe the administration was desperately hoping (and greatly relieved afterwards) for a killing to avoid having to deal with the spectacle of incarcerating OBL in Gitmo and putting him on trial.

Mike, you amaze me. I am talking of the implications of this US policy abroad, and you focus entirely on the internal perspective.

I am really trying to fathom how you can believe in your theories, Mike. Without any banter just now: the other thing I find amazing is your belief in this war on terror theory.

Obama’s strategy about the re-election campaign is fairly transparent: The Reps are making a nuisance of themselves over the budget, as predicted. Obama can be sure of the votes of the left then. Accordingly he is now fishing in the right-wing, and the OBL murder case—presenting it as “justice done” goes well with the right wing. That side of it doesn’t interest me much. It is your internal thing.

For the US’ foreign relations this affair is an absolute disaster. You try to insinuate that only socialists are appalled. This is not true. The US have stepped up their arrogance, and an increasing number of people see it that way. Putting OBL on trial would have been the only way to show some moral strength. Instead we see another US American death squad roaming the world at will.

The German party that invented Atlanticism here, enforced it, and always upheld it, even in the Iraq war, is now discarding it. The CDU, not socialists or Marley’s ghost. You aren’t interested. Foreign policy beyond sending some drones simply doesn’t interest you. Amazing.

I wonder the reason for the awful information policy is ignorance of the distrust produced by this brutal dominance. We have the word of the US government that OBL is dead, that it was a failed attempt to capture him (which is called a victory however), that his body was treated respectfully, and so on. Nothing else. No proof. Your government seems to believe that this is enough, incredibly. No, not after all the lies they have issued over the last years.

Can’t be long until the first rumours say that OBL is alive. And the rumours will spread. I suspect you will be surprised, and your government too. And we will probably see exactly the thing the US wanted to prevent: Bin Laden will be less despised in the Muslim world because of the circumstances surrounding his death.

Again: your government must know that. Nevertheless they decided on this policy and on this information policy. Why?

For the US’ foreign relations this affair is an absolute disaster.

More German melodrama.  Hardly a disaster!   As BC noted, the foreign response has been largely understated, especially in the Middle East.  Look at the actors who are protesting the loudest...Hamas, Al Queda, Taliban, and Euro-Socialists.   The haters who continue to hate.  Big freakin' deal.

And while the internal politics do not interest you, the audience here is more than just you.   The internal politics are relevant because they are the most significant factors in the US policy decisions which continue to confound you.   What you find "transparent" in Obama is shallow and lazy analysis. No wonder you still have questions.

Look at the actors who are protesting the loudest...Hamas, Al Queda, Taliban, and Euro-Socialists.    The haters who continue to hate. 

In which of these categories would you sort the CDU?

BC had pointed out something completely different: there is no mass support for OBL, witness the lack of the usual demonstrations of anger. Since you can only think in the with us or against us paradigm, you take this as consent to the US policy. In reality it is a sign for rejection of both aspects of the “war on terror” entity. Bin Bushden is no longer interesting. Both persons (and their shared ideology) who embody this figure had already become irrelevant. The world has moved on, and you haven’t noticed it.

Then there is this puzzling information policy of the US administration. They really had enough time to agree on a story. Since there are practically no witnesses (Bin Laden’s family doesn’t count because they are too partial to be credible, and surely the soldiers can be made to keep their traps shut), there would have been no problem at all to stick to this story.

Instead we see that statements are withdrawn and replaced by their opposite the next day. Fascinating. I have only one explanation for that: in the US administration they can’t agree on their story. Interesting.

I wonder how many versions of the truth Pakistan has. It must get confusing working with and against the Us, Al Qaeda,  the Taliban and Afghanistan.

Again:  I wonder how many versions of the truth Pakistan has. It must get confusing working with and against the Us, Al Qaeda,  the Taliban and Afghanistan.

May 5, 12:08 PM EDT

Source: Only 1 killed in bin Laden raid was armed

By PAULINE JELINEK
Associated Press

As the Navy SEALs moved into bin Laden's compound, they were fired on by bin Laden's courier, Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti, who was in the guesthouse, the official said. The SEALs returned fire, and the courier was killed, along with a woman with him. The official said she was hit in the crossfire.

The Americans were never fired on again as they encountered and killed a man on the first floor and then bin Laden's son on a staircase, before arriving at bin Laden's room. Officials have said bin Laden was killed after he appeared to be lunging for a weapon.

Thankfully the SEALs were more competent than the WH Press office. 

After further consideration, I must commend the SEALs for their fire discipline.  They only shot OBL twice.  Likely I would have emptied a magazine and reloaded just to be sure the threat had been adequately addressed.

The LAST thing OBL saw before the lights went out!  God bless America!

God curse those criminals and terrorists in America. Never God will bless such USA administrations which support the terror country and that is the justice of God. I trust God of cursing those terrorists soldiers. i will leave now the revenge of God which is more .

Yes, no hatred evident here.

I read today that bin ladin wants to die martyee and killed by the enemy of God and by those who support israel than to be jailed . He got what he wish.

He sure did! Speaking on behalf of Seal Team 6 and the United States of America ...he's welcome.

 also in suadi arabia the consultant of the circle of king said that his burrial is not according to islam and he condemn that. So 1 milyar muslim condemn USA administration.

What else is new? Perhaps it would have been better to have air-dropped his corpse onto ISI headquarters ... where it belonged.

America administration is already hated by muslims for their injustice and hypocrate and now more.

You shouldn't speak for all Muslims. You hate, perhaps some people you know directly hate. But I suspect that, as in all large groups, most Muslims are in the middle, and are much more balanced than you.

Since I believe in a God of love and justice, not of curses and revenge, I'm confident that OBL already got the express elevator to his just destination and that of all other murdering terrorists.  It's up to God to judge him and up to the Navy SEALs to arrange the meeting.  Mission Accomplished!