Nothing is necessarily as you thought it was, and you should never believe what you're told until you've had a chance to study it for yourselves
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Joel S. Hirschhorn
Many technical analyses cast doubt on the official explanation of the collapse of three World Trade Center buildings, including those presented by an impressive new group: Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. More difficult than discovering the truth, however, is convincing most of the public to accept the bitter truth.
Americans easily block out painful truths. Powerful societal forces keep much of the population distracted and uninterested in complex issues. Entertainment-oriented mainstream media contribute to mass ignorance. And the political establishment often buries the truth, uses propaganda and manipulates citizens. Intelligent, strong-willed people can fight all these.
But on a deeper level, many truths are blocked psychologically, because they produce too much pain. This results when truths sharply disagree with strongly held beliefs. The conflict produces cognitive dissonance that can block full acceptance of the disturbing truth. People fall victim to self-manipulation and self-delusion. Truths are dismissed and false beliefs remain embedded.
When it comes to 9/11, we face the strong belief that only Al-Qaeda caused 9/11. But analyses by many experts reveal the collapse of three WTC buildings was not caused by the two airplanes exploding into the two towers. Without getting into details that one can spend many hours examining on a number of websites, the general view is that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition.
If correct – IF – the immediate reaction is like a cosmic big bang. It would have taken considerable effort by a number of people with expertise and access to the buildings to rig them so that they could be intentionally collapsed when the two jets hit the towers. Tough questions flood in: Who could have engineered all this? Could foreign agents accomplish such complex actions – and if they did, why not take credit for it? If Americans did it, why would they intentionally inflict inevitable mass death and devastation? Worse, they seemingly knew about the plan to fly the jets into the towers.
Post-9/11, why have the government and official investigations not come to the same controlled demolition conclusion? This might be explained if the government was involved.
Pull one string and the whole 9/11 story unravels as your imagination triggers unending questions. Can Americans support a reinvestigation and rethinking of the 9/11 event? Or would they rather avoid even more pain and preserve the official account that places all blame on Al-Qaeda? So easy to criticize those who offer different explanations as conspiracy nuts.
After all, the new truth would be so shocking that we would have to question our political and government system. Could there have been such malevolence somewhere in our government? Did a monumental conspiracy push us into attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq? Did petroleum and corporate interests shape 9/11?
Like other groups, Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth wants a new, honest and comprehensive study that considers all the evidence for controlled demolition. First, let the technical truth emerge. Then, if necessary, cope with the inevitable political, conspiracy and other questions. But let us not allow a possible painful truth block the primary task of determining once and for all what caused the collapse of the WTC towers and building no. 7.
If there were non-Muslim forces – possibly U.S. government ones – that played a major role in the WTC catastrophe, then let us have the courage to face the truth. Suppose some element of our government played a secret, awful role. If we do not uncover it, then we are vulnerable to repeat nefarious and unimaginable activity in the future – possibly to impact the 2008 presidential election. Discovering 9/11 truth would enshrine the wisdom of the old adage: the truth hurts. That means suffering the pain of revealing lies and cover-ups. Mourning over the deaths of building victims and heroic first responders would expand with new anger. And another reason to hate and oppose the Iraq war would surface.
If those that believe the official 9/11 story – especially elected officials – trust their views, then let them support a serious investigation to test the validity of the controlled demolition hypothesis. If they fear and reject doing so, then let us see that as suspicious and unacceptable.
As a former engineering professor with growing skepticism about the official WTC story, I joined Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth; you can learn about the controlled demolition findings and other similar truth-seeking efforts at www.ae911truth.org. You choose: seek the truth yourself or take the easy way and just criticize those who question the official story.
To sum up, horrific possible answers can cause us to shun a question. But clearing our minds of fears of painful truths is essential to clearing our nation of destructive lies. Otherwise, we stay stuck in a delusional democracy.
[Joel S. Hirschhorn was a full professor at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, and a senior staffer at the Congressional Office of Technology Assessment and the National Governors Association; he is the author of Delusional Democracy – Fixing the Republic Without Overthrowing the Government at www.delusionaldemocracy.com and co-founder of Friends of the Article V Convention at www.foavc.org.]
Judge not
to not be judge , Measure by the same yardstick
The reports and the news about America role in the Tower attack
played a very propaganda game transferring the public attention from the Islamic long term goal , seems right straight from Goebel the Nazi minister or from Lenin propaganda office
Which started with the Islamic rise in VI followed by its Imperial Conquest and Colonization of Syria, Egypt, Norther Africa, Invasion of Europe, Spain, south France, invasion of India, Persia etc
No defensive but offensive, only turn back when met by forces . Either the Mongols who surprisingly wipe their power at least temporarily, the brief recovery of Byzantium, or the rise of the Western power, who after being invading, colonized Balkan,etc even Vienna , Austria almost fall at their hands, due to Invasion not Muslim defending from attack but Islam long term goal Imposing their Ways upon others. and America was not around in the VII century . Just a reminder to those who say. Who are we , Americans to impose our system around the world? But it is ok for other to do so ? And to try to continue doing so giving the opportunity? Contradictory , Yes, Hypocritical yes
When is coming from Well Educated Historian and Individuals who keep their follower in the dark about history and culture, a big act of deception
Orwell discovered when he fought for the Republic in the Spanish Civil War, how the left and the right, embraced propaganda and how their follower join the wagon
with absolute obedience without using Critical Analysis, using a dualistic and fundamentalist approach.
Communist, fascist of all stripes , Hate America , even the Pope publish a encyclical during the early XX century lashing on American freedom of thought and inquire.
Yes , America is makeup of human beings, who is perfect ? But American culture and political system, offer certain proof to contain a moral, ethical and decent character which is absent from most culture and also the ability to learn from mistake admit mistake and self criticism.
Slavery, Lynching , Racial and Caste discrimination features contain in cultures much older than America and practiced thousands of years before the West and America emerged , have been hidden under the rug. Unconfronted by many cultures for years. Blame America is easier than to confront Racism in Asia check Human Rights Watch the discrimination than children in Asia suffer on the hands of other Asians because of being of different ethnicity and check the cultural discrimination against Mixed couple and children from mixed races , how the ethnic minority from Okinawa are racial discriminated by the ethnic majority in Japan, so in Africa in countries like Nigeria, the four major ethnic group instead of trying to engage and learn each other language and even date , they keep attach to hundred years old long before the European Colonial period, of racial taboo agaisnt interacial mixture, marriage and culture and Englad did not arive to Nigeria and Latin America, please from Brazil to Mexico , from Argentina to Bolivia, Racism, Caste system but
America a younger civilization than most of the Asian , African and Latin Americans civilizations , due to its culture , politics in just short time ( Historical time) made such great strides and changes and one of the reason due to Self Criticism
feature lacking in most culture and political models
like Communism
Communism who in theory and practice claim to engage in continuous War in order to Impose its model upon the planet,
Which eliminate free speech, opposition , create Police State and Concentration Camps and new inequility because while Lenin , Stalin, K, Brezhnev, Gromyko , Mao, and their close friends and family members lived in the middle of wealth and priviledge,with palaces, servants, jewels, expensives cars, Special hospitals, Special Supermarket, A new Class , who recreate absolute monarchy, examples,
North Korea, king, new leader, pass the absolute power to his son, the same in Syria, the same in seems to be in Cuba and so on.Equality, of new Ruling Family. Talk is cheap , deeds confirm practice
while the rest
of the people regardless of their education, like serf In matter of Fact Marx in his Manifest openly lament the passing of Feudalism , for him a Golden era and he regret the new order in which individual break social barriers.
Communism in practice Back to the Feudal Times and Marx was honest about it .
But still is the Big Lie , Equal Society, Egalitarian Caring despite the proven record of Failure since 1917 to deliver such Equality and Caring society as alternative to the Capitalist society is praise by its
believers of this new religion, many of its member call themselves , secular or atheist but in reality their behavior, absolute belief against proven evidence made them in fanatical , fundamentalist believer like the one who believe in Islam or etc.
Arm Race, Nuclear Threat, Invasion of country from the Baltic in the early XX , to Environmental disaster like the Soviet decision to bury in the Baltic atomic waste and the devastion suffered by the environment in Socialist countries.
Unchecked by Green Peace or Move On.
torture
While America feel ashame of torture and people involve prosecuted
Why torturer in so many nation and political system around the world are not hold accountable?
How such political system , culture and nations can Pass Judgment on America
when they have been never confronted their deeds, Look th e Japanese , reluctance to confront their Imperialistic and Evil doing against Chinese, Koreans etc since the early 1930 or the Muslim their desire for World Domination and Intolerance toward others , Buddhist, Hindus conquered by them were murdered destroy. Islam does not acknowledge or allow Non Monotheist , even the protected one have second class status , are subject to discrimination which in the Western American model and Modern Countries influence by Christian thought the West, to morally, culturally and political reprehensible . How so many who protest against war and imperialism and death penalty
Fail so far to advocate for the millions of victims , death row inmates, torture victims and discriminated people due to sex, gender or ethnicity who suffer around the world not due to America fault but due to the cultural political models of the nations where they live
On the contrary many of the same crowd who crowd the streets of Europe and America, Asia and Latin America and even Africa pointed the finger against America
are used to remain silence if the murder , genocide is Tibet,Tehran, Cambodia, Rwanda , Sudan Uganda Zimbabwe , Cuba, Mexico, etc, in their own back yard
How come such big repulsive action and such disgusting disregard for Human Suffering can be celebrated ,
Academics, media, religious , civil, political leaders and the crowds seems to never change like Orwell discovered
The lack of self responsability the dualist response and the shameful sell out of principles over their fanatic religious beliefs. Center in All the evil in world comes from America , all the injustices come from America,
A historical lie, affirm and self program every day, without question create fanatics,, who regardless of their education, gender, sex, economic situation will be fundamentalist believer, Ask to a well university educated Islamic believer
choosing to believe what science and his religion , the answer is his belief
Islamic are taught in Egypt and other places to teach their children than Non Muslim are sub human , are lesser human , there are videos and evidence , there are films of such propaganda
But it goes unchecked , the failures of America are either hyper or focus on or twisted in more way than once
Remind the classic model, A thief murder, and abuser lead the charge against another , even the other individual is far to be in their same league and lamentably the thief, or thieves, murders and abuser find a full standing armies of Useful Tools , willing to accept , celebrate, and support the hands stain with torture, racism and support for violence to gang against the "Accused, a flawed individual but much better than the thugs who lead the attack
But we choose ,
free choice, Brave New World, Orwellian World Animal Farm World
I choose to not be an animal or be a yes serf who allow to become an Useful Fool
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paul.carline said:
Fri, 2007-08-24 08:42