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Is Islam an identity for Muslims?Posts: Joined: 2006-11-21
What should Muslims do in Europe? Should they follow the assimilation model or multicultural system? Is
Submitted on Tue, 2006-11-28 21:05
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Muslims should be in Europe for short term work or education purposes only. There is no justification for living in secular Europe (or any non islamic state) AND adhering to the Islamic faith, according to Islam. The two cultures/ideologies are so different that it isn't right for practicing muslims to live in secular societies for the long term (not to raise families and settle in secualr society). You can't serve two masters. Muslims who love the life in Europe should consider renouncing their faith altogether as this would be better then trying to have it both ways, or move to muslim countries in order to make them Islamic. No country on Earth today is actually Islamic. Not Iran or Saudi or any.
I say this because Islam is the identity of Muslims, of course. I don't think there is such a thing as Euro-Islam. In that there isn't a european version of Islam. This is because Islam comes from the Qur'an (and Hadith)and therefore can't come from anywhere else. If there are other 'versions' of Islam then they are, by definition, not Islam.
Submitted on Sat, 2006-12-02 20:01
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Just a point of information. Islam actually means 'submit' (to God). It is reported too often that Islam means peace, it does not it means to submit. Salaam, the greeting, means peace, both come from the same root word.
Submitted on Sun, 2006-12-03 18:00
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Re: Is Islam an identity for Muslims?
steelers
Do you know what ignorance means?
It means behave rudely which you do always.
educate your-self.By the way;you always make me laugh.
Submitted on Sun, 2006-12-10 22:30
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1- I think their is difference between islam as a relegion and muslims today. Islam means peace and many uropopian people convert to islam and still living in their countries. I like tolerance between all releigons. I know everything changed only after 11 september, as if the hatret for islam once immerge by the execuse of 11th september. Let every relegion practice its relegion without afraid in all countries and their will be no problem as I think GOD of islam is the same GOD of christianity as well as of Judiasm. I think we are people who creat problems to our selves by listining to politicians which always are not correct and seek for their power only . May be the problem now is most of foreign countries even dont practise christianity or other relegion. They dont like any relegion to exist and that is the problem.
Submitted on Sun, 2006-12-03 13:15
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steelers, c'mon be civilized you dont need to swear, when the urge to swear comes over you eat a banana...
and hey thats right, if your country was being invaded and there were a ton of soldiers with rifles and ammunition and all that good stuff, what would you do?? sit down and take it? i highly doubt it. just remenmber steelers, they are humans just like you and the need to survive or protect your family/homeland conquers all. am i right or what
Submitted on Sun, 2007-01-28 00:29
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Submitted on Thu, 2007-02-01 20:46
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Steelers,
You should say the exact same thing you have been saying without the swearing and abuse. Your view would be taken far more seriously. If this is just anger therapy for you, I suggest you get help elsewhere because you could be doing more bad than good the way you are proceeding. Check that, you are ruining your own position, i.e. making radical muslims look good/justified. Get it?
Submitted on Fri, 2007-02-02 03:52
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