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Jihad - a sanitizing crusade!


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Get the psychology right first - only then can you apply the concept to cultural and social phenomena. Jihad is a sanitizing crusade in the same sense that heretic-burning and ethnic cleansing are sanitizing crusades. Lurking deep in the mind of the implacable jihadist is the same sanitizing obsession that drove Milosevic and Ratco Mladic to launch a campaign of extermination against Muslims in the Balkans; the same obsession inspired the persecuting popes to launch a series of persecutions against European Christians who dared to disagree with His Holiness's infallible pronouncements; and the same sanitizing obsession energised Adolf Hitler to launch his 'Final Solution' in 20th century Europe. The jihadist mindset is not a religious virtue - it is a major symptom masquerading as virtue.



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Re: Jihad - a sanitizing crusade!
Driving the hard-core sanitizing crusader is what can best be described as a delusion of contamination. He sees the world as a polluted place, teeming with pollutants. Prominent among these unclean abominations are the sanitizer's ideological opponents. Crusading Christians fit the bill nicely for the Islamist; and the Islamist is the perfect match for the sanitizing zeal of the crusading Christian! Two of these crusading Christians have hijacked leadership of the so-called "war on terror". No prizes for guessing who they are! The invasion of Iraq and the toppling of Saddam were motivated, not by counter-terrorism rationale but by the sanitizing zeal of Bush and Blair. They have told us as much themselves - more than once. Saddam, they preached ad nauseum, was a murderous tyrant. So they got rid of Saddam and gifted the jihadists with a power vacuum in Iraq. Put bluntly, Bush and Blair have become part of the problem!



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Re: Jihad - a sanitizing crusade!
So let's all face one brutal fact: George W Bush and his co-conspirator Tony Blair have unwittingly made themselves allies of Osama bin Laden!! By toppling Saddam they opened up Iraq to the jihadist' onslaught. And they are in no small measure to blame for the state of murderous anarchy that defines today's Iraq.



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Re: Jihad - a sanitizing crusade!
Interesting that the Muslim contributors to the forum have not commented upon these articles. Be interesting if they did.



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Re: Jihad - a sanitizing crusade!
Yes, interesting indeed! Even more interesting would be a critique from one of those voluble academic types - the author of the main article, for instance.



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Re: Jihad - a sanitizing crusade!
Here's the reason for the sullen silence: many Christian and Muslim academics are afflicted with the delusion of contamination! They suffer from a deep-rooted intellectual taboo! So they - reflexly, if you know the jargon - shy away from rational discussion not only of the core symptom itself but also the long-term effect it has on motivational states and resultant behaviour patterns. This wilful ignorance extends all the way to our Intelligence communities; and, consequently, to the Executive branch of government - most notably in the United States and Britain. Now you know why Bush and Blair have made so many tactical blunders in Iraq!



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Re: Jihad - a sanitizing crusade!
What's more, these voluble and taboo-ridden academic theorisers - I know, I've been there - will close ranks against any heretic who dares to rattle their comfortable cages! Objective thinkers, including British general Sir Michael Rose, have acknowledged that the war in Iraq cannot be won. Probably the same can be said of the war in Afghanistan. Yet, our political leaders persist with their maddening and costly policy of denial. They get away with it - but only as long as the policy of wilful academic ignorance prevails.



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Re: Jihad - a sanitizing crusade!
I think the reality is that Islam is inherently violent and aggressive. The Koran and the physical actions of Mohammed himself proves the point. The flaw is not to be found in individuals but in the very teachings themselves. Of course in these PC days one can't say that.



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Re: Jihad - a sanitizing crusade!
Get it right, Owly! Islam is an institution, an abstraction, a mental construct. Abstractions cannot be inherently violent. The violence comes about when a number of potentially violent individuals band together and found a movement, a political party - an institution. The sanitizing obsession lurking in Islam and Christianity erupts when one or more of these potentially violent types ( a pope, an ayatollah, a president) seizes power within the institution and uses it as a launch platform for a jihad or crusade. They succed when a sufficiently large number of the rank-and-file have the same mental pathology as the leader. The delusion of contamination is deeply entrenched in politics and religion. Washington's Neo-Conservatives have much the same motivational state as Islamists and fundamentalist Christians.



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Re: Jihad - a sanitizing crusade!
The violence comes about when a number of potentially violent individuals band together and found a movement, a political party - an institution. I think this is an incorrect assumption. The violence within Islam is within the very message. You only have to read a Koran to appreciate that. This is at total variance to Christianity where the message is pacifist and one of peace. As I have pointed out a few times go to Topkapi and you will see Mohammed's sword. I defy you to produce Christ's sword and therein lies a huge difference.



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Re: Jihad - a sanitizing crusade!
owly 1- Their is no violence within islam nor with its message. Can you tell me why if the message of christianity is based on peace, so why all these wars launched in the name of christians ( as it is appear also to us ). Why the west dont adopt and obey the message of jesus and dont react for e.g for any action or hurt done to him ? really , no logic or sense of what you said. 2- Taorat revealed to prophet moses (pbuh) was all rules and laws to his people at that time, while prphet jesus (pbuh) have the message of spiritual and morals acts and peace, but as islam is the last relegion and prophet mohamed (pbuh) was the last one, the message was of both rules and peace , but for whom hate islam whould change and manipulate its message like you mr owly



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Re: Jihad - a sanitizing crusade!
abdulksaida, Violence and intolerance seeps from every page of the Koran, as you well know if you had read the damn thing. As a Christian you regard me as a 'Kiffir', a derogatory and offensive term. No one needs to manipulate the message of Islam: that message we see everyday in the murder and mayhem in Iraq. When are you going to see the error of your ways abdulksaida and accept the teachings of the 'Prince of Peace' ? Return to the faith of your ancestors and become a Christian, for therein lies your salvation and the salvation of your people.



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Re: Jihad - a sanitizing crusade!
A Comedy A Satire How do you keep Islam in tact in a changing world? Strictly control where family members go, what they do and read? Stop the women from entering banks and driving cars? Give up your freedom and go and live in an Islamic Republic? Believe with all your heart and mind that one day, one fine day - Islam will conquer the West even though - people are now saying that the religion was a Cult of the Moon !?! Getting Personal !! If I had anything to do with it I would lock up my daughters/women and when they come out they would be wearing nothing but black, except for the little bit where you could see their eyes. I would let them know that their body's were worth more than they were and that they are far lower than a man could ever be, so they should forget about what they see in schools and on TV, it is just enslavement or submission for you. And of course you know I love you very much. I would be being kind - and fair - I am sure !? And for my boys, they could only read the Koran. No other books allowed, and he will grow up to be a good and proud Arab, regardless if he is really an Indian. He will take a wife, whom we have selected, no need for this outside culture and conspiracy against the Muslim race. As we are superior, as all the world's truth is in the Koran. One day the world will see it. One daayyy....



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Re: Jihad - a sanitizing crusade!
owly 1- Always you exagerate, how come from every page of the Koran the voilence and intolerance seeps ! did you read all pages and make comparison and scientific calculations to say that . e.g what about law of inhiritance, how to treat our family, how to worship god, stories in Quran telling about all prophets and what they used to do , history , social, and many events it include everything beneficial and not voilence. 2- one example also , did you watch the Dr phil , the episode when 2 sisters are married to same man and living together in the same home, those womens are not muslims as it is forbidden for muslim women to marry one man when they are sisters . The muslim man cant combine 2 even polygamy is permitted in islam, if the sister died, he can marry her sister , but not in her life. when I attend this episode and those womens are americans and have kids and really it was amazing for me, as the first time I see such like that . They are living not legally by that. If their are rules and faith, so this thing would not happen, I was wonder that they want to show the advantages of polygamy like us, but also they forget that marrying 2 sisters is also illegal in islam and in a polygamy society like ours. Is it amazing !! 3- ok, you call me to be christians as my ancestors, what do you mean ? becasue you think as Iam palestinian or not ? I know all my ancestors are muslims even if I born in the holly land . your ancestors are christians as I think, but I think in my relegion , I can find more solutions to many problems in it more than in christianity now and not pure christianity before. 4- mr owly, how many times i told you , if you are real christian and worshiping only one God , so you are not kafer, why always you like to manipulate the message of islam, the Quran dont consider you low or kafer , you are consider as one of the people of the book, and you know what meaning that ( book is tawrat and bible ), so stop always telling incorrect information and read explanation of Quran to understand the context .



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Re: Jihad - a sanitizing crusade!
abdulksaida, Why don't you read some of the links I have posted for you ? They give many quotations from the Koran which underlines all I have said. Or are you not interested in what your own book actually says ???



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Re: Jihad - a sanitizing crusade!
You've got to hand it to Tony Blair - when he goes into denial, he does it in style! His speech to British troops in Iraq - his last as prime minister! - has him clinging to his "I did what I thought was right" refrain, blaming "foreign forces" for the jihadist carnage. Well, prime minister, for once your sleight of hand presentation betrays your pathological inability to face reality! Who, you might have asked yourself, let those dastardly foreign forces into Iraq in the first place? Not Saddam, for sure! The foreign jihadists flooded the country, and Iran took a heightened interest in their progres, only when Saddam was toppled and running for dear life! No, prime minister, you will not get off the hook with strategems like that. Suppose - for once - you bite the bullet and tell us what you mean by 'right' when you say you did "what you thought was right." Was it some sort of gut feeling? Whatever led you to make such a monumental strategic blunder cannot have been the result of rational thought, can it?



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Re: Jihad - a sanitizing crusade!
So here's the key question for all you Blair watchers: What exactly did the prime minister mean by 'right' when he said (ad nauseum) "I did what I thought was right."



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Re: Jihad - a sanitizing crusade!
Postscript to above. After all the jihadists (including the foreign contingents) do what they think is 'right' when they blow themselves up, behead captives, and lob mortar shells into the Green zone. So you see, prime minister, you would be wise to tell the world exactly what you mean by that much abused term!



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Sounds like you don't know very much about Jihad
You need to do some research on the concept of Jihad and back it up with some sources before making sweeping statements like that. Your analogies don't quite fit the bill. Furthermore you completely ignore the conditions for Jihad and the current political conditions that bring it about.
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Think psychology first!
That's the best I can do for you, Mirkokick! Whatever way you look at the concept, Jihad is a sanitizing crusade in the same sense that Hitler's Final Solution was a sanitizing crusade, that the Catholic church's burning of heretics was a sanitizing crusade, that Milosevic's ethnic cleansing of the Balkans was a sanitizing crusade. If you want to understand the sanitizer's motivational state, you don't study religion - you study psychopathology!



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I think the reality is that Islam is inherently violent and aggressive.
Much less so than Judaeism. Have you read the Old Testament? Much less so than those 'Judaeo-Christian' values to which George Bush adheres. The crucial difference is that our 'Judaeo-Christians' have the Weapons of Mass Destruction which can wipe out the human race and Islam has not.



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Perspective on CNN God's Muslim Warriors - Part 1 and 2
We congratulate CNN and Christiane Amanpour for the outstanding report, however, was it accurate representation of Islam? Did it bridge the gab or further add to the misconceptions? to read more click on http://www.muslimbridges.org/content/view/713/37/



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The Hidden Iman
The Spirit of Inquity is at work in Iran, Iraq, Lebanon and Syria under the form of the Hidden Imam Israel,Britain and the United States are under a strong delusion of a lie The Anti-Christ is about to come to power
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