The truth does not win; the truth is just what is left when everything else is wasted
The truth does not win; the truth is just what is left when everything else is wasted
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Labels and individuality.Posts: Joined: 2006-07-16
If one wears a label then all paths of thought lead to the same destination. I'm talking about labels like Muslim, Christian, Atheist and so on. The problem is that one answers a question posed by laying a track from the answer which is ones core belief, back to the question. Indoctrination ensures that a question without a clear and obvious answer isn't investigated. If our children ask, 'where do we come from?' then some will answer that God created us and others will answer that we evolved from apes. Whatever the right answer is, is besides the point here. The starting point of any question shouldn't be the answer.
It is human nature to follow the pack. In order to fit in to our respective societies we are required to accept certain beliefs set by tradition and the evolution of our cultures. I belief this approach slows our progress and deflects our thoughts. Is it possible to wear such labels and still think with complete freedom?
Submitted on Wed, 2006-09-20 06:26
Re: Labels and individuality.
Re: Labels and individuality.
Some good points in here but one of them will stay with me: 'Labels are control buttons'. Very powerful.
Debating often brings clarity to thoughts and that phrase does such for me.
A further point about tribal behaviour is the security and safety in numbers that in can offer. As long as enough of the world are still thinking outside the confines of traditions then peace will ultimately prosper.
Submitted on Thu, 2006-09-21 07:10
reply Re: Labels and individuality.
"Is it possible to wear such labels and still think with complete freedom?" - spearo
Yes, I think so, though many choose not to. A label can be a convenient shorthand although it may be intended to convey more. It would also depend on whether the label is being used by the person themselves or by others to refer to that person. I am guessing you mean a self-reference. Without the contractions that language shortcuts, such as labels, provide discussions would flounder in philosophical definitions. And unless words are used in a "logical positivist" form it is hard to ever say anything. If I was to engage in a philosophical discussion on religion I would say I was agnostic in that the ultimate issues of creation are probably unknowable. Generally, and more practically, I would say I am an atheist as this is a more useful description of where I stand. Exaggerating this, if asked where I am, I would answer sitting in front of my computer; a more correct, but useless answer would be that I do not know as I cannot be certain about reality.
If asked "where do we come from?", I would say what I understand about Darwinistic evolution and also say that others have different views based on their beliefs. I would not give equal weight to the religious creationist theories, if asked that question, because I believe them to be wholly wrong and I would state that as my belief. To try to answer questions such as this by giving an equal weight to all ideas, however quirky, would require encyclopeadic knowledge, a large amount of time, impossibly huge patience by the recipient and an infinite supply of soothing throat lozenges. In practice it would also be a certain way to turn of the student from ever asking a question again.
Australian aboriginals have a creationst theory that involve the world being on the back of a giant turtle. I would not give equal weight to that idea either but it does not mean I do not respect the aboriginals or their culture. The key here is in not just teaching facts but in teaching respect for others and their cultures. I have two favourite quotations:
"One thing you can be sure of is that everything we think we know is wrong"
"Think, from the bowels of Christ, that you may be wrong" - Oliver Cromwell in pleading for a man's life
Submitted on Fri, 2006-09-22 21:13
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