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Modern jet-set lifestyle, represents freedom


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Those professional miserabalists at the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change have published a report, which suggests that the government needs to put the brakes on air travel in the future if we are combat climate change. The current environmentalist/government obsession with reducing CO2 emissions means that any growth in aviation would be catastrophic to their main aim of ‘decarbonising’ the planet and ‘stabilising’ the climate. I always thought it was quite funny and hypocritical how ecological journalists, activists and politician’s jet around the planet in order to tell a worldwide audience that the aviation industry was eco enemy number one. Indeed, some went further by arguing that flying in a jet plane was just as bad as child abuse. How jetting to the Mediterranean once a year can be equated with being a kiddie fiddler is not difficult to understand, if you’re a hardcore environmentalist. “Global warming means that flying across the Atlantic is now as unacceptable as child abuse”, well… I fly across the Atlantic (and elsewhere) on a regular basis, and I view my travel around the globe as a fundamental freedom that cannot be curtailed. (1) But environmentalists like the columnist George Monbiot, thinks my jet-set lifestyle is akin to being a child abuser. Monboit and other eco-worriers are pointing their green fingers at those awful people like me who are quick to jump on jet planes because the price is so cheap – how could I unthinkingly jet to the Med and pollute as I go? In fact, air travel is not a problem. If there is a problem with air travel, is that its still over priced for my liking – and should be cheaper still. In any case, cheap air travel has meant that millions of ordinary Britons can now explore the world and seek out new horizons. Why anyone in Britain would want to go to Blackpool or Skegness for their summer holidays is beyond me (I’d rather not go on holiday at all). That seems to be the objective behind environmentalist concerns with cheap air travel, get all those cultureless proles to abandon our jet-set lifestyle and settle with the cold waters of Hastings instead. Any curb on cheap air travel is a direct attack on my freedom to travel anywhere I want to go. I consider jumping on a jet plane as liberating – what we need is more ‘skies the limit’ thinking, not the middle-class miserable morality of reduced consumption and sustainability. Read on: (1) Meltdown. By George Monbiot. 1999. http://www.monbiot.com/archives/1999/07/29/meltdown/


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Re: Modern jet-set lifestyle, represents freedom
Why are air tickets cheap? Are airlines receiving taxpayers' money to do this kind of thing to the sky? http://www.airliners.net/open.file/718260/M/ Did you see the BBC documentary on Global Dimming? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/dimming_trans.shtml What did the climatologist Peter Cox mean when he said: "If we carried on pumping out the particles it would have terrible impact on human health, I mean particles are involved in all sorts of respiratory diseases..... and of course they affect climate anyway. If you, if you fiddle with the, the balance of the planet, the radiative balance of the planet, you affect all sorts of circulation patterns like monsoons, which would have horrible effects on people. So it would be extremely difficult, in fact impossible, to cancel out the greenhouse effect just by carrying on pumping out particles, even if it wasn't for the fact that particles are damaging for human health." Why is Cox talking about 'pumping out particles' to 'cancel out the greenhouse effect'? Does this have anything to do with those huge contrails you see behind the Emirates Airlines Boeing 777? Would you like to be travelling on a plane that is leaving trails of that kind? Message was edited by: halva



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I can't see how a spectacular photograph of a plane with contrails behind it is a problem. Or do you prefer to call common aviation contrails chemtrails? I don't believe there's a conspiracy to spray chemicals behind passenger airlines - do you? Are you trying to say that we should forget global warming and worry about 'global dimming' instead?



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Courtney Hamilton, your response gives me the impression that you are not as naive as you pretend. I have outlined my positions on this matter at: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=HAL20051020&articleId=1120 Given that the IPPNW has clearly given consideration to spraying of aerosols as a means of 'mitigating' climate change, and given the overwhelming circumstantial evidence that some such programme has been underway on a very large scale for years, the onus is really on the authorities to explain more clearly why they have NOT implemented the ideas that have been the subject of so much specialist discussion. Their claim of course is that they are NOT implementing programmes of the type outlined in the IPPNW report to which I have linked readers of my 'Global Research' piece). Their answer cannot be the answer given by climate change sceptics, i.e. such mitigation programmes are not happening because they are not necessary. Obviously, the IPPNW is of the view that mitigation IS necessary. Usually climate change sceptics avoid the subject of 'mitigation' and so of 'geoengineering', but if they are backed into a corner they tend to take the abovementioned position. That they do so is evidence of deliberate obfuscation and lack of sincerity. When governments are finally forced to admit that large-scale geoengineering programmes including aerosol spraying from aircraft (deliberate use of aircraft emssions to cause cloud cover) are in fact being implemented on a scale of a hugeness absolutely without precedent in human history, then the climate change sceptics' house of cards will inevitably collapse. Unless, perhaps, you are able to show that all the 'geoengineering' really serves some other purpose unrelated to climate change.



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Correction to the above: my Alzheimers led me to write IPCC as IPPNW.



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Some more data from 'Pravda': http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/379/16569_climate.html "To lower the earth's atmosphere temperatures by 1-2 degrees, we will need to pump into the stratosphere about 600 thousand tons of aerosol particles. The above amount of aerosols can be produced by burning 200 thousand tons of sulfur. Burning sulfur up there is not a must. Instead, aircraft could use fuel with a high content of sulfur. Scientists already know the movement patterns of those artificial formations. They normally drift in the stratosphere coming together in wide strips over the region located 30 to 70 degrees latitude. We will be able to protect some areas of the earth against the solar radiation using those formations."



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Re: Modern jet-set lifestyle, represents freedom
Wayne Hall WOULD have you join in his assumption that yes, contrails are actually "chemtrails", a nefarious covert program underway to load the stratosphere with aerosols. The problem is, however, that for years he has been repeating his assumption as a mantra, yet never actually tested it against real-world data. He was recently informed, however, that the data shows NO SUCH GEOENGINEERING IS INDICATED. The facts show that if such a program were underway, the stratosphere would have to have been LOADED with INCREASED aerosols, and if it were successful, earth's albedo would have thereby INCREASED. Hall has been made aware of these two items of data: http://www.ariannaonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=459268&postcount=13 As the above link shows, the data shows that stratospheric aerosols have in fact DECREASED over the time span that his people have been claiming a geoengineering program was underway, and as a result, earth's albedo has also DECREASED. What Wayne Hall has been insisting for years turns out to be absolutely false. Hall has deluded himself and tries to delude others. Judge Wayne hall by the facts, and his whole conspiracy theory falls apart.



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Yet another nail in Wayne Hall's coffin. Note that above Hall cites the BBC's Horizon broadcast about supposed "Global Dimming". Turns out that three months later, BBC ran a story saying the exact opposite. Wayne Hall is aware of that fact, yet CHOSE to ignore it, and would have YOU jump off the cliff along with him, I suppose. Judge Wayne Hall by the facts, see them for yourself: http://www.ariannaonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=292528&postcount=1



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Is anyone here interested in the debate that Reality 2u30 (Jay Reynolds) wants to initiate from the heart of the Texas oil lobby?



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Re: Modern jet-set lifestyle, represents freedom
How about you, Courtney? Want to get with the professionals or remain an amateur?