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muslims killing each other again
why are they killing each other again in Palestine? Is this because it is a moslem holy day, like Ramadam, or have they run out of Jews to murder? Will they say it's all our fault?
Submitted on Fri, 2007-02-02 18:15
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keith
1- their is no relation between holy day, ramadan or other, so dont use pls these days to humulate us. You dont live their and dont suffer, and dont know the environment their and who is involved and yes we palestinians are sad for that and we dont want it , especially not to let our enemies take this opportunity, but it is complicated and I pray for this to stop that , and their are many conspiracies and of course bad people who can be do bad things for money or power as in every society, but hoping they will stop and God really help my people their .
2- It is the fault in the beginning , when they establish israel and discard palestinains from their home land, it is the fault of british, and others as give promise for israel to have a land from her native people. what is built on faulse will breed faulse and mistakes, palestinians are human being and they suffer much and I hope no more killing as not to let our enemies happy, it is eneough unjustice from the whole world as only because hamas wins the democratic election really rediculous. Go and search for the first fault of all that mess mr keith.
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Forget Palestine, in Iraq Muslims are killing each other at the rate of about 100 a day. And not just soldiers either, but women and children. This has nothing to do with the west but is the barbarity of Islam's tribal mentality.
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mrbbrj
1- The issue was raised for palestine, then in irak dont forget who launch the war barbaric act against this country for false execuses as mass destruction and link to al qaeda and all was false issue, and left the country in a mess and that was from america and britain at first or the islam tribes are exisiting in iraq since thousands of years and we dont see that no of killing, so first go to the roots of the problem and have good mental judje .
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so that is an excuse for the insurgents to kill at will, women and children included....attacks and bombs in marketplaces, restaurants, etc. Just what are you saying abdul, its not their fault for killing and murdering innocent people?! When will muslims stand up and account for their own actions?
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steelers
1- For me, I dont think that real muslims are killing children and women like this . My sister home in iraq , was stolen before 3 days and their car also by some people and of course the family left iraq since 2 years for the worse and they put one man to quard it , then he was shot and he was a very joung, we are mr steelers more involved than all of you, as you are foregners and watching only, we are the one who suffer, and have more wrights to say our opinion than you. Really all muslims now suffering poor or rich from the mad politics and fighting for wealth and power esp oil and other resources.
2- Also I think now in iraq many groups enterd iraq which they are hate america and want to fight their , and also I think many zionists and also they can give money to any one to kill as in the final they will make iraq into 3 or more. I dont know, from history it seems that as we all were one muslim country and by the colonization , we are divided into 22 if Iam correct , then I dont know the no we will reach as they want us to be weak and not again united under islam.
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I think you are telling yourself Fairytales to cover the ugly truth of the Barbarous state of Muslim sectarianism.
It is my understanding the Sunnis consider Their Shia brothers in Islam, to be lower than Jews, and thus worth of extermination.
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Conflicts between Shias and Sunnis occurred before during and after the Ottoman empire's existence so it is a bit odd to blame western colonialism for it. It has been comparable in muslim societies to orthodox, protestant, catholic conflict in xtian societies and just like them it is complicated by nationalities too.
I think part of the reason that it flared up so badly in Iraq and others areas is the pretence that it no longer was a problem rather than was a dormant one. When people deny that problems exists they don't take precautions to avoid them getting worse. Prior to the sectarian violence breaking out undeniably various people were still claiming that tension between the groups was historical and it was an insult to muslim unity to bring the topic up as it oculd never lead to violence. Now we can all see how well that strategy worked.
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I think also you are telling yourself Fairytales to cover the ugly truth you want to beleive by your bias media.
2- See if you dont practise what we are practise, and if you are not involved directly in the situation and if you dont have relative and if you dont live in arab and muslim country for long time, so you know nothing about sectarian . We are sunna have many friends married to siha since long time and no difference between them as even in the period of sadam as I heard that before it was forbiddin to write the name of the family as not to know the sector of relegion, but after bush war, as if it is intended to discriminate. I have many relatives living in iraq and still and I know better than you .
3- Real sunnis and real Shia are brothers and others are criminal and I doubt also many zionists enter in this circle and many conspiracy are now held . God only knows where is the light in that ugly tunnel.
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that may be true abdul but they do have this annoying habit of killing each other.
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mrbbrj;
yes, we,re barbarians and Criminals : 1.we killed Christ 2. We reason ignite World War I and II. 3.We who killed 55 million people in the second world war The dead are Christians, Jews, Muslims killer 4. we shilled Heroshima and Nakazaki by nuclear bomb is that right? 5. we reason ignite Massacres Between Catholics and Protestants in north Ireland. 6.We reason ignite The civil war in the United States of America . 7.Who embargo imposed on the Iraqis For 13 years Kill two million children And after that war burned vegetation and the ground and now you pretended that you are with iraqi people
Where are you over 13 years When the Americans kill Muslims there .
8.As in Palestine The terrorist who defend their land The victim, who invaded and the Jews massacres are known for everybody .
my comment:
a. Palestinian Fighting was a big mistake Because it is an American-Israeli plan to destroy palestinians people And thereby realized the security of Israel However, it will not continue this war .
b.about Iraq Everyone knows that the Iraqis Along age did not fight each other , Always Sunnis and Shiites brothers untill now But thanks to the Americans and Iranians Who made the Iraqi government And give the green light to kill sunni time and Shiite time Because it is a puppet government The same people who work with them . However, the Iraqi resistance inflicts Americans The hardest losses. In the end the Iraqis would win .
c. as to islam will Not affected by Your words ,The Islamic religion Most religions prevalent among people in the world because its The fact religion , Centrist ,Clear evidence ,Respect all religions ,In addition to being a seal of religions.
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lol, in the end iraqis will win what?
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If you did not read history This is not my problem I lived in Iraq ,I know the meaning of victory and defeat
The Americans will withdraw now or postponed .
Apparently you did not hear about Vietnam Day withdrew overnight and Without any introductions .
well, what do you called about dropping 5 hilicopters in two weeks , With regret Iam talking with the ignorants All concerns women,Evenings night ,beer.
In the end,you are civilized!!!!!!!!!!!,and We lag behind.
Hh..Hh...Hh....Hh....................................
ok steelers prepare agood replay again not trivialities.
(when asked Hitler: why you kill jews?.............He answered:becauseThey cause corruption in the world).
Re: muslims killing each other again
Even if the US is deliberately fostering division amongst the people of Iraq so that they have more influence this policy doesn't work unless a people are allow themselves to be divided. Clearly it didnt take much, if any, prodding for sectarian violence to get out of control in Iraq. As for it not existing before the US invasion I find that odd when Saddam clearly committed atrocities against the Kurds and Shias. Anyway if this is US policy denying that there are divisions to be exploited isn't the smartest idea.
Golean_88 - Islam is the 2nd most prevalent religion not the 1st. Does that mean your points apply to the no 1 religion i.e. "The fact religion , Centrist ,Clear evidence ,Respect all religions ,In addition to being a seal of religions."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_religions
If not why not?
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man4mtns,
As abdulksaida said The prophet Mohammed was illiterate Do not know reading and writing .
the Koran is the oldest book not occuring on distortion .
the koran respected all religions He spoke of the mistakes of other religions How they distorted them religions .
Its one book at all Muslims people , According the bible have 9 books is that right?
Church recognizes five books And do not recognize the other four books. (Barnabas bible) One of these books which mentioned The name of the Prophet Mohammed .
the Christ said: (Iam not rescuer you , the rescuer who will come after me )
find about the truth . Not attacking others Only through Emotion and viewpoints .
(when asked Hitler: why you kill jews?.............He answered:becauseThey cause corruption in the world).
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xxx_3
I meant Most embrace ( The most prevalent) ,as an example
In America Only (35000 Christian converts to Islam annually) .
Yes, Islam is a religion of Centrist.I will tell why......
Christian lavished permission , and Jewish lavished sanctity.
*Islam Campus everything that is harmful and Allowed Everything useful to us (example:God campus on Muslims Alcohol Because it is injurious to health, God wants from me and you to benefit people .
Jews, for example, Deprived themselves by eating any kind of red meat do you know why they not eat it because Yaakoubs prophet or (Israel prophet)Campus it to himself But the truth He was sick ( Illness name Kings disease )
This type of disease you Can not Eat meat (especially red meat) ,well, Why is the prohibition and The Torah (jews book) Did not mention anything In this regard.
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Re: muslims killing each other again
steelers:
Hi.........Hi........... steelers I missed you realy, how are you?
All this and you did not understand !!!!!!!!!!
Next time I Will write in Hebrew to understand me Ha...Ha
(when asked Hitler: why you kill jews?.............He answered:becauseThey cause corruption in the world).
Re: muslims killing each other again
seeing how I don't speak a word of hebrew, I will understand a hebrew post as well as I understand any of your posts!
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steelers:
great,now I feel reassured !!!!!!!that you understand me
(wenn gefragten Hitler: warum du Ttungjuden?........er antwortete :weil sie verursachen Korruption in der Welt )
(when asked Hitler: why you kill jews?.............He answered:becauseThey cause corruption in the world).
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steelers:
Your point of view Mean that anybody hates jews Is Nazi and The enemy-Semitic ,As you hate Muslims and arabs ,We also hate the Jews. Its our viewpoints and your too .
just be realistic please,
(when asked Hitler:why you kill jews?................
he answered: because they cause corruption in the world).
(wenn gefragten Hitler :warum du Juden totest ...........
er antwortete :weil sie verursachen Korruption in der Welt ).
Re: muslims killing each other again
golonazi,
(when asked Hitler:why you kill jews?................
he answered: because they cause corruption in the world).
(wenn gefragten Hitler :warum du Juden totest ...........
er antwortete :weil sie verursachen Korruption in der Welt ).
This is what makes you a jerkoff golonazi, go away!
Re: muslims killing each other again
steelers:
As I said earlier its our viewpoint like your.
If you are determined that Iam nazi ,I have no problem
because nazism knew the truth of jews(zionists).
(when asked hitler:why you kill jews?............he answered:because they cause corruption in the world).
(wenn gebetenes hitler: warum du Totungjuden? ............ er geantwortet:weil sie verursachen Korruption in der Welt).
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I knew you would have no problem with it golonazi, that's why I named you so! Your posts speak volumes on who you are and anything you post in the future will fall on deaf ears.
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steelers:
you know realy , clap yourself. Remains of Nazi much better than Zionist At least The Nazis did not steal other people's lands . In other words, they are not robbers . Ha........Ha.........Ha.
good night
(when asked Hitler: why you kill jews?.................
he answered: because they cause corruption in the world).
(wenn gefragten Hitler :warum du Juden totest ?..........
er antwortete :weil sie verursachen Korruption in der Welt ).
Re: muslims killing each other again
check your history nazi muslim idiot! On second thought, just keep posting your ignorance, lol!
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man4mnts:
some people said he was a jewish And this is not definite.
whatever Jewish or not he stand against the zionists project.( He killed a lot of innocent Jews )and this is a fact we couldnt mask it , but you should know something
The Jews more hated people of the world .
Read the book of them (the name is:Protocols of the zionists leaders). this is book was written in 1895-1896
in two parts (Contains points to how the destruction of this world ).
consider any human Non-Jewish (guimm). do you know whats the meaning of this word , its meaning that any person non-jewish hes (animal )and they claiming that the god created them by this way To facilitate the service of the Jews. This means that Christians and Muslims and All other religions Are animals .
read the doctrine of jews and you will know that they dont like anyone but On the contrary,
about steelers:
It seems that your stupidity increasing day by day .
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Yeah golonazi, I think we have PROVEN just who the idiot is! LOL at you with everyone else reading this forum. You are a joke golonazi and now everyone knows it, lol. Don't you have somebodys english to correct, haha!
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steelers:
With regret You are weak personal (you need many things)
In addition to fool you (This is not cooking program)
its a discussion website .If you want to talk like humans and by logically way you are welcome but the trivialities (I advice you go to bed and dont forget put cover on yourself well).
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hey little boy, it was you with your university english that was trying to correct me! You were proven a dumbass! Don't come off as though you didn't draw first blood and come after my post trying to make me look stupid. You ended up making yourself look stupid! How does that feel idiot! Maybe next time you try and correct an American speaking english, you will make sure you are correct first.
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steelers:
I know from your english that you are not american man .
your roots not american (perhaps you were an american in your dreams) good night.
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LOL, born in Pennsylvania in 1959 and have live my whole life in the good old USA. Thank God I'm an American! YOu golonazi, are wrong again. Being wrong is getting to be a habit with you isnt it?
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Lady Astor went to her grave believing 'Damn Yankie' was one word.
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steelers:
I said your roots (do you understand english)?
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well, I can trace my families roots back to the mayflower. What's your point idiot?
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owly:
hello, you said Islam brought blood ok no problem !!!!!!!!!
and whats the Christian brought?
George Bush :hes Christian whats he bring to Iraqies.
and he said Jesus told him go and occupy Iraq .
In Spain the Christians there were killed any spaniard muslim after Granadas fall in 1492A.C .
On the contrary with muslims did not force any person embrace Islam you know that very well.
their is a western writer I do not recall his name now he said:the world did not see opening people merciful and fairest like muslims . I mean opening (occupiers according your logic).
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Mrs, abdulksaida:
thank you so much for the perfect and full answer (god protect you)...
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man4mtns:
1.unclear spirit (did you mean the spirit who made Davids prophet committed adultery) as your bible said .
( god challenged genies,and humans to create an only chapter of the holy qoran), how you say its unclear spirit and it calls to respect all prophets .
2.theirs no book did the justice to Jesus and his mother like quran (read it and you will know).
3.from where you brought that Islam forced christians people Convert to Islam yes they pay like any muslims person but little more (and theiris many christians now in arabs countries Most have full freedom and you could ask them).
4. Jesus said, and how can I believe it and you have 9 bibles any bible Iwill choose (I read Bernabas bible)and
rejoiced at Emergence of Mohammeds prophet (Is Mohammed, who also wrote this bible), Please Be logical .
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golean,
You are wrong in your view that Islam is tolerant of we Christians. All over the Islamic world my people, Christians, are being persecuted and oppressed by Muslims like you. Read the following if you don't believe me.
http://www.truthandgrace.com/muslimintolerance.htm
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/islamicintolerance.shtml
http://www.jewishmag.com/82mag/islamintolerance/islamintolerance.htm
http://www.ijtihad.org/intolerance.htm
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dear owly:
realy I noted many mistakes in the words which they translated to arabic (When they recall some events )they recall Events challenging Islam (if you want I will show you ) any thing you want about bible or quran and Iam so ready to answer about your questions because I respect your efforts to find the truth (even your websites questions).
this websites (started by distortion after that attacking Islam).
dont worry I visited many of these books and websites and they couldnt to Influence of Quran , Mohs prophet , Islam and muslims (so they made a new quran and distrbuted in the American college in kuwait) , they Wrote the same chapters of quran if the quran told you( do) they say (dont) thus , I mean the Contrary only .
I invite you to visit any arabic country The life of peaceful existence between Muslims and Christians ( Unbelievable these rumors false , muslims and christians were lived before 1400 years ago. Not fight in our lives for religion never).and I have many christians friends even they sleeping in my house like my brothers , because our religion bequeathed by christians and the peaceful jews .
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golean,
I have visited Muslim countries and I know of the persecution of my people in those lands. Deny it all you wish, but that is the reality.
Islam is intolerant and the Koran amply demonstrates that intolerance. You cannot deny how Christians are treated in Saudi Arabia for that is well known. And judging by a recent programme on Channel 4 the Saudis are busy spreading their hate and bile in our country too.
Like most of the Muslims who post on here there is never any fault in Islam, it is all in 'miss translations' or other such nonsense.
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I have been reading lately of the disturbing news coming from pakistan that more and more christian males and females are being kidnapped. The males are forced to convert and fight and the woman are taken and wed and forced to conceive a child for these animals. Yeah, thats great muslim/christian relation building.
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owly:
1.you know very well theirs nobody christian in saudi arabia .
2.some western states want to build churches in saudi (It is a provocation for Muslims there ) .
3.What was the purpose of building churches In a country that does not contain a Christian one .
4.Do you believe that Muslims in the United States enjoy by all freedoms (I know some cases of attacks on women there And forcing them to take off their veils),This non-random arrests against them .
5.your speech inaccurate (people there dont hate christians as you said but they hate European and American policy hostile to Islam Racism against them and The war declared by Bush (when he said lets make it a crusaders war) did you forget (all this against islam).
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Saudi Arabia does not even allow a CROSS to be shown. Is that tolerant?
Yes many Muslims are tolerant of Christians, but many are also not tolerant and use the quran to justify their evil.
Again, you muslims CLAIM to honor Jesus, but ignore his words. At least be honest and say you do not accept Jesus, because you don't. If you did, you would accept his words and forget about the quran and save your soul. But you don't even need to do that. All you have to do is honestly accept Jesus as holy, and invite him to help you learn the truth. Slowly you will see the truth as you are ready. You simply have to open the door and invite Jesus into your life. If you accept him as you say, then why fear this?
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man4mtns:
1.yes Iagree with you the christians in Saudi arabia Religion is applied only in homes , and I told you the reason (There is no saudi christian ),This is the policy of the State but your opinion about the people there they dont hate Christians for religion but they hate the western policy Attacking Muslims And calls for hatred them And it calls them terrorists (Terrorism may not be called the name of religion Because the Muslims are not all from the Qaeeda) ,Is it right that all Americans considered criminals Because terrible acts of some American soldiers.....(Of course,no).
2. We believe Jesus In what he said in correct bible That coincided with the Holy Quran ( But the Muslims do not believe The speech, which contains some of the priests after Jesus .(It can be considered a clear proof).
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Golean_88,
So as we in the UK have a 'state religion' (Church of England Christian) don't you think it would be a good idea if we suppressed all other religions ?
I believe there are about 4 million Moslems in the UK. Do you think we should expel them all and it would be a good idea if we demolished every Mosque in the UK ? After all the presence of so many heretics is bad for our country as I am sure you would agree.
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I think there should be as many mosques in england as there are churches in Saudi Arabia. There should be just as many muslims in england as there are Christians living in Saudi Arabia also. Does this not seem fair to you?
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owly:
1.As you know, Most Western governments considering Muslims are terrorists Especially the United States And Muslims are treated as citizens Third-degree This is observed in America and Britain dont be angry ( you want to punish all muslims about London and 9/11 events what we should say about 4 million innocents people were killed in Iraq only)from 1991-2007.
2.There are some mosques in Britain (thats right)But not out of love for muslims ,and you know among 4 million muslims Scientists and owners of capital and factories and Britain benefit economically from that, Even through cheap labor (a courtesy only)And you know more than that all British Governments did not stop with the Arabs and Muslims in all their life (Britain the most state Colonized other countries ).
3.Non-building churches in the Arabian Peninsula Due to Christianity did not exist and spread Not before Islam or even after, For this there are no churches ,but look to Iraq, Syria,Lebanon,Palestine ,Egypt where you can see many of churches there Because Christianity has existed for thousands of years there .
4.The West does not want the construction of churches for Christians who living in the Arabian Peninsula In order to worship this is not right But To serve the Christian church The aim of evangelization there ,And this really happened in Kuwait they built an only church and after some years Some foreign universities Distributed what they call it (the new forqan)or(new Quraan) And I have a lot of evidence of attempts by the Vatican The attack on the tomb of the Prophet Mohammed .(I hope you know a reason ) good night .
5.I have heard that the number of people visiting the churches in Britain Declining each year, Most Christians have not to know god in six days Only in sunday If they were committed ( Do you believe this requires the construction of a church ).........While Muslims go to the mosque five times a day .and you can be compared between the two.
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My question is why do the Muslims in the Middle East always say
WE LOVE DEATH -
WHILE THEY (the Jews and all others)
LOVE LIFE !!
WE ARE NOT AFRAID TO DIE !!
But then when they get killed, it is all
WHY DO YOU KILL US !!
I am comfused?
Maybe someone can help?
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cole
1- Yes I think muslims love death more than live, as they are sure sooner or later they will die, and I dont mean to be killed with others or to let them killed with no purpose, but as a relegion , have rules and obeying it , and we believe in the hearafter reward for good people and who worship God , and as you know most of suffer is in the middle east, and for that good muslims dont afraid from death and want to be rewarded as I dont know if christianity beleive in reward after death or not ?
2- why to confuse, of course we must not afraid from death come by God, not to be killed with no reason, and that is normal, no body wants to be killed by war or just for killing and God dont allow that, it is only the normal death which muslims are not afraid of it, if really they obey God, as I think practising islam is not easy for everyone as we cant do what ever we wish to do, their are contstrains in this life, so if we keep our selves and control it, so of course we deserve good life later, so that is my opinion and may be their are different opinions also among muslims
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