Britain and England: A Case Of Split Identity

Britain, as has often been observed (including, of course, in many articles in OurKingdom), is a country in the grips of a profound identity crisis. This is so much the case that it is even unclear, I would say, what and who we are referring to by the ‘Britain' that is in crisis: who are the British, and what is Britain?

For me, the crux of the issue is the splitting up of the old Anglo-British national identity that was at the heart of imperial Great Britain: the way in which the English have tended informally and instinctively to regard England and Great Britain as indivisible, and as interchangeable names for a single, unitary ‘nation'. Of course, the reality of imperial and pre-devolution Great Britain was never that simple, as Scotland, for instance, always retained many of the institutional trappings and the cultural identity of a distinct nation. But for the English, the English-national and British-state identities merged, making Great Britain (and later, the United Kingdom) to all intents and purposes the proxy-English nation-state.

Devolution changed all of that, once and for all. It was a definitive refutation of the ‘absolute' character of the Union, in both senses: not only the unitary character of the British polity but the ‘union' (merger, (con)fusion) within the English national identity between England and Great Britain. It was this cultural and psychological union that had sustained the political Union throughout its history, as it secured the loyalty and ‘ownership' of the greater part of the UK, which viewed Great Britain as ‘our nation' and the UK as "one of the great creations of this country", to quote Vince Cable's words at this week's Liberal Democrats' conference (The unconscious irony in Vince Cable's statement is that the UK is supposed to be ‘this country' not something that ‘this country' (England) has created!).

But as a result of devolution, it became possible, indeed necessary, to see the UK no longer as the seamless extension of English parliamentary democracy, nationhood and power. And, more fundamentally still, the English could begin to separate their English and British national identities at a subjective and psychological level, precisely because those identities had also been split apart at the objective, political level - with ‘great(er) Britishness' no longer being defined as a continuation and extension of Englishness but as a set of different national identities from which the English identity, too, was differentiated and distinct.

In some respects, this breaking up of (English) Great Britain, and break-down of the Anglo-British mentality, was highly desirable and long overdue, and commanded the support of most ‘progressive' political opinion at the time when devolution went through. The old Great Britain had been the fundamental vector - driving force and instrument - of British (and, by definition, English) imperial power: the drive to incorporate multiple different nations within a single polity ‘owned' by the English and identified with by the English.

However, this splitting of the English and British identities presented, and continues to present, a huge problem for the British state - again, in two key respects: political and national-cultural. In the former area, as is now widely recognised, asymmetric devolution as implemented by New Labour has resulted in the British government's and parliament's competency in many policy areas being limited to England. Notwithstanding this, all of the members of the UK parliament, including those from the devolved countries, have retained the power to introduce and vote on legislation affecting England only (the West Lothian Question). Understandably, this has led to many questioning the legitimacy of the UK parliament to serve as the legislative body for England, based on the fundamental democratic principle that no MP should make laws affecting citizens that have not voted for that MP and cannot vote them out.

Even more fundamentally, at the psychological and cultural level, as English people have started to identify as English rather than, or as much as, British, they have increasingly lost their faith in and commitment to the old British institutions that previously relied on their identification with Great Britain. In short, they start thinking of their ‘nation' as England and not Great Britain, and start to demand national-English civic institutions to express and represent that English national identity. (Indeed, polls consistently now show majority support for some sort of separate national-English tier of governance, ranging from ‘English votes on English matters' to full independence.) So there is a dual basis for the demand for an English parliament, which bloggers such as Gareth Young http://toque.co.uk/blog/ aka Toque and other sympathisers with that cause have elaborated: 1) democratic fairness within the overall British context; and 2) the need for civic institutions to speak for, represent and defend England as a distinct national community, its traditions and its culture.

All of this is well documented, as has been the British establishment's response, which has been a systematic attempt to thwart and suppress the development of any sort of distinct English-national consciousness. Nationalists often stand accused of playing ‘identity politics' of a kind that dangerously threatens to undermine the sacrosanct ‘Union'. But in reality, it's the New Labour government, and the whole political and media establishment, that has played identity politics of the most insidious and egregious kind: in so many different ways, too numerous to list here, trying to wipe out English national identity and nationhood, and replace it with a monolithic, de-anglicised Britain and Britishness (I have charted the establishment's efforts to erase England in favour of Britain and Britishness extensively in my Britology Watch blog).

In short, while the establishment's own actions, through devolution, catalysed a splitting of the previously united English and British identities, it has subsequently sought to deny the emerging Englishness that threatens the foundations of British power by a retreat into a new ‘Britain' (no longer the English Great Britain) that effectively aspires to completely supersede England as the national and political centre and foundation of the Union state. This Britain looks remarkably similar to the old Anglo-Britain in that what is referred to as Britain, both in the political and broader cultural spheres, is very often in fact only England. But in contrast to the old Anglo-Britain, it has become no longer politically correct to refer to ‘this country' as England - even when it is England that is being talked about - because the very identity and name of England has been suborned and replaced by that of ‘Britain'.

The establishment's aim has been to leverage the age-old identification of the English with Great Britain in order to get them to identify with the new Britain. This new homogeneous British-national identity is therefore predicated on the denial of a distinct England at the same time as it requires the English people to identify with it by transferring all the characteristics, history, traditions and culture of England into ‘Britain'. But this is a denial of the realities, which are that English politics are now distinct from both Britain-wide matters and the affairs of the devolved British administrations; and that the English-national identity is disengaging itself from the old Great Britain into which it previously poured itself - and it is not about to reinvest itself into a homogeneous Britain that, put quite simply, does not in fact exist.

It may seem outrageous to assert that ‘Britain does not exist'; but this takes me back to my opening question: ‘what is Britain, and who are the British?'. What I mean is that the modern idea of Britain as a homogeneous national entity - both political and cultural - does not correspond to any reality other than that of the UK state itself: the United Kingdom, then, not ‘Britain' as such. The use of the name ‘Britain' is designed to evoke and conjure the idea of a single, unified nation (the re-casting of the English Great Britain as the de-anglicised Britain), as opposed to a merely political conjoining of four distinct nations in a single kingdom. But, at best, this Britain could be described as a project or work in progress rather than a reality.

In fact, it doesn't (at least, not yet) even merit the term ‘project', which would imply the existence of a definite nation-building plan and coherent vision. It's more a projection, in the psychological sense: a fantasy driven by wish fulfilment projected on to the actual reality, which enables those that indulge in it to deny and fail to see that reality for what it is. ‘Britain', on this view, is the name and form of a typically English alienation - indeed, ‘alien nation' - which is the principal symptom of the UK's identity crisis. This alienation manifests itself in the way in which formal public discourse, whether that of politics or mainstream media, attempts to obscure and obfuscate the UK's fractured national identity (-ies, particularly, the division between English-specific and UK-wide relevance in so-called ‘national' policy areas) by referencing a spurious unified British sphere of public life. This is done either by explicitly describing the policies and aspects of national life in question as ‘British', or by merely implying that they relate to ‘Britain as a whole' by omitting any explicit reference to the nation concerned - often by recourse to the nebulous ‘this country': a term that very often really refers to England only but always implies ‘Britain'.

The examples of this syndrome are, as they say, legion: far too numerous to document here. Indeed, the syndrome is endemic within the ‘national' media, i.e. the media that pretend to be national-British but are in fact English. This contributes to a quality of unreality (or, as I say, alienation) and national non-specificity in discussions and media coverage on crucial areas of social policy for England, where politicians and press appear to connive in creating the impression or even deliberately state that the matters involved are ‘British': quite falsely so in many instances. I've previously discussed one such example on Our Kingdom: this summer's argument about the parties' commitment to a supposedly ‘national-British' NHS, which in reality could only mean the NHS in England.

Without going into the effects of this sort of misleading ‘Britification' of England-specific policy debates - which can in fact contribute to completely falsifying the terms and context of those debates - my main concern here is to focus on one key observation. ‘Britain' is in fact a fractured and divided ‘nation', not the cohesive and homogeneous nation it makes itself out to be. ‘Britain' has at least three main meanings with respect to the way the term or its implicit evocation (as ‘this country') is used in practice: the UK as a whole, for genuinely UK-wide matters; the devolved ‘British nations', including Northern Ireland in loose usage; and England in all other aspects of public life and policy.

I have frequently criticised the failure of the media to adequately report on ‘English matters' by continuing to describe them as ‘British' or implying that they do concern ‘Britain as a whole'. Indeed, recently, I have written an open letter to the BBC urging the corporation to make a concerted, proactive effort to make a clear distinction, in its reporting of the general election, between policy proposals that affect mainly or only England, and those that are genuinely relevant to the whole of the UK. This election is in fact another manifestation of the fractured nature of British public life: a ‘national', supposedly UK-wide, event; but one that doubles up as the English-national election - or, alternatively, is split into two elections in one - as over half of the policy debates will be of absolutely no relevance to Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland but concern England alone. My fear, indeed my expectation, is that this reality of Britain's divided national politics and identities will once again be ignored and glossed over in coverage of the election, not only by the BBC but by all of the in-fact-English-but-would-be-British national media. This would have serious consequences in that it would make an already highly flawed democratic process even more illegitimate. This is because non-English residents will effectively be deciding how to vote based very often on the mistaken assumption that the parties' policies in areas such as education and health will affect them, whereas they relate only to English residents; and inaccurate media reporting on the English-specific nature of those policies will have contributed directly to such misconceptions.

The same could obviously also be said about the misinformation of English voters, who will often be under the mistaken assumption that the parties' policies will all be implemented across ‘Britain as a whole', whereas many apply only to England. This means that people will not scrutinise those policies as critically as they otherwise might, based on comparing, say, plans for the English NHS with the way the NHS is run and funded in the other nations of the UK.

Thus far, a response from the BBC to the open letter has been unforthcoming, despite a number of emails. And if Nick Clegg's keynote speech at the Liberal Democrat conference yesterday is anything to go by, then the political parties, too, are not about to abandon their practice of dressing everything up as British, notwithstanding my own modest exhortations that they should do so (here and here). I counted no fewer than 44 references to ‘Britain' or ‘British' in Clegg's speech, and only one to ‘English' (a reference to the ‘English-speaking world'), even though large parts of the speech addressed England-specific policy areas, such as education and training, health, communities and local government, housing, much of transport policy, the environment, and justice and policing (an area that also includes Wales, of course).

Any politically uninformed person listening to the Liberal Democrat leader could be forgiven for thinking that this country called ‘Britain' was an entirely unitary nation state, and that a hypothetical Liberal Democrat government would have responsibility for running ‘the nation's' affairs in all of the above policy areas as well in the genuinely UK-wide areas of government that Clegg's speech also discussed, such as the economy, public-sector pay, defence and foreign affairs. This mixing up of England-specific and UK-wide matters under this false concept of a unitary Britain mediates the appeal to all the voters of the UK to choose the Liberal Democrats, because then at least it can be claimed, for example, that the party has attempted to win the support of Scottish voters based on things like defence policy (scrapping Trident) and support for a strong, caring public sector, rather than by directly urging Scots to vote for the Lib Dem policies on primary-school class sizes, or community and patient involvement in running the NHS, which apply only to England. But there will be many Scottish voters who will think a Lib Dem Westminster government could deliver these things for Scotland (which they can't); and there'll be proportionally even more English voters who'll be lulled into thinking that the ‘progressive austerity' (spending cuts) being applied to "the schools department" (correction, the English Schools Department),  and being achieved by "devolving . . . power to local communities", will be implemented UK-wide, rather than the truth, which is that they're exclusive to England.

And that's saying nothing - because Clegg said nothing - about devolution max and the need to address the English democratic deficit (despite the fact that these issues were intensely discussed at the conference's fringe meetings), which were not even alluded to in Clegg's comments about parliamentary and electoral reform. But can a radical reform programme including measures such as PR, an elected House of Lords and a reduction by 150 in the number of MPs be enacted without addressing the West Lothian and English Question in any form? All that can be said is that Nick Clegg didn't address it, because, to all intents and purposes, England does not even exist in his monolithic Britain. But the truth of the matter is the reverse: it's ‘Britain' that is the illusion, and a vehicle for denying the fact that a separate English-national layer and identity exists, and is entitled to representation.

However, notwithstanding its importance in terms of helping people to be better informed about the national specificity of their vote in different areas - whereas they might otherwise be misled into thinking that all manifesto policies related to an entity called ‘Britain' - it is perhaps somewhat contrived to insist that media and politicians should be more honest in calling English spades (i.e. policies) English spades. It's like insisting that someone with a clinical psychological illness - let's call it a delusion of grandeur - should just ‘pull themselves together' and face up to reality. Clearly, it's important that the sick person in question should adjust their life and language to the real facts; but they're not going to do so until they can overcome the trauma that has led to the syndrome in the first place.

That trauma, for the British state and the Anglo-British consciousness, has been devolution. It's quite unmistakably the case that the political and media establishment have not accepted the realities of devolution and continue to be wilfully blind to them. But the truth of the matter is that there is no more unified Anglo-British nation (Great Britain): that ambiguous merger of the British state and the English nation. In any case, such a Pan-British nation was only ever really an English notion: an infusion and confusion of English-national identity into a merely political union. Now that even that political union has broken down, in practice if not in constitutional statute, the national unity of Great Britain has been shown up as the delusion it always was. But the British establishment will not accept that it rests on such shaky national foundations and so has taken refuge in a new united Nation of Britain that merely covers up and denies the fracturing of the Union into its constituent parts, and the splitting of the English and British identities.

Maybe it will take the definitive breaking up of the political and constitutional Union of Great Britain through Scottish independence for the Westminster political class to rediscover and ‘own' its true national foundations in England. The British establishment formerly affirmed England as inseparable from the Union of Great Britain but has latterly repudiated it in the attempt to preserve (its identity as / the illusion of) a unitary ‘Britain' that flies in the face of the facts.

Once restored to a healthy perception of reality, it is to be hoped that the renewed England-based establishment will also be a much more democratic government and parliament of and for the people of England, rather than merely a means of rule over England - whether this is part of a broader multi-national ‘British federation' / ‘united kingdom' or not. But if the present establishment does wish to keep Scotland and England together in some sort of union, it must shake off the delusion that this can ever again be a national Union, whether the old Great Britain or the new Britain.

The Kingdom of Great Britain is dead; long live a Britain of nations - kingdom(s) or republic(s). Including England, this time, though.

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Comments

The Cornish Democrat
29 September 2009 - 2:55pm

as Scotland, for instance, always retained many of the institutional trappings and the cultural identity of a distinct nation.  So too has Cornwall in the form of its constitutional status as a Duchy. A fact that those who wish to see Cornwall's assimilation into England unchecked try their utmost to hide. The details of our constitution can be found here www.duchyofcornwall.eu and will also be the subject of  forthcoming work. It should also be noted that Cornwall's Lib Dem MP's produce things such as Dan Rogerson's Government of Cornwall Bill which looks to create a Cornish Assembly, but then at their party conference not one mention of Cornwall is made when discussing devolution. Two faced electioneering if ever there was!  The Cornish Democrat

johnevans7
30 September 2009 - 12:23am

Cornwall, from whence my grandmother came, is like Alaska a wild, beautiful and remote place.

Perhaps we should copy Russian Czar Aleksandr II and 'sell you off', perhaps to the French? After all you and those other Brits, 'The Bretons' do speak a similar language and France is closer than London!

Are you worth more than $7.2 million?

The Cornish Democrat
30 September 2009 - 1:17pm

You'll have to get the Dukes permission first, but a union with an independent Brittany would be tempting.   The Cornish Democrat

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29 September 2009 - 6:07pm

This is an intriguing piece, full of insightful and thought-provoking points that are as valid, now, to the question of the United Kingdom, as they are to the people of England.

Identity is always a critical issue when it comes to politics, be that on the part of the voter, or the person clamouring for your vote. While identity tends to be used in the cultural arena far more so than in the arena of politics, it certainly has a place. In times of identity-crisis, it is vital that people look within themselves and define for themselves, who and what they really are.

From the perspective of an Irish reader, this article also calls into question the failed nation-state of Ireland (in the sense that it failed to include all of the Irish) and the mistakes of exclusivity and exclusion that were made over a hundred years ago in Ireland. I would hope, that any progressive move towards accepting the nation of England as a distinct country of the UK (and not just as synonymous with Britain), would bear in mind the mistakes made in the past and not seek to repeat them.

The English people (and I would argue the Cornish too), have a right to their own identity and to representation of that identity (and the inherent concerns that go with that) within politics. The notion of Britishness as put forward by the UK media and political discussion does seem grossly out of date with the realities of the modern UK state.

However, exploration of these notions of nations requires a degree of caution. The UK is a multicultural state, where people whose ancestry comes from all over the globe reside. In developing a modern English identity, it is important that concepts of race and racial purity do not enter the equation. This is a question of culture and of politics. And as a question of culture and politics, the poser of that question must be prepared for the potential to receive a myriad of answers.

Carole E
30 September 2009 - 9:25pm

Over the past 15 years or so I've often argued that our "BME" brethren need to take "ownership" of their &/or their children's Englishness, just as they would allow a relative in Wales or Scotland their Welsh or Scottishness. "Britishness" is just too broad and not easy to provide an adequate description. We in England seem to have lost the right to call ourselves English, & I think politicians feel it's been tainted by association with extremist right groups. That may be one of the reasons for their reluctance to use the word - but that is secondary to the fiction of a properly British government!

gelosgrapos
29 September 2009 - 8:43pm

The author presents a very strong and convincing argument but omits to include any reference to New Labour's efforts - aided and abetted by the media and especially the BBC - at social engineering by ramming down everyone’s throat the concept of a multi-cultural society, and in so doing obscuring even further the concept of Englishness let alone the mythical notion of Britishness.

I must stress before the PC mob start yelling "racist pig" that as a naturalised British citizen there is no racist agenda on my part other than to stimulate the debate by raising this key issue.
How do 2nd generation British born and bred immigrants, that now make up a fair proportion of the population, define themselves - English or British? And where do they fit into this argument, as I would posit that they identify with the concept of Britain rather than England, Scotland, Wales, Norther Ireland or Cornwall?

britologywatch
30 September 2009 - 11:04am

I think you raise an important issue, gelosgrapos. The British establishment has tried to use the need to integrate newcomers and ethnic minorities as another pretext to privilege Britishness over Englishness, effectively making Britishness the exclusive civic identity and Englishness a merely ethnic identity. However, at the same time, native British people, including the English, have been increasingly identifying with the traditional four / five British nations, meaning that the efforts to encourage newer Britons to identify as British-only actually marginalises them and separates them from the more established British people.

However, I think the government's efforts are failing. Their own Governance of Britain survey showed that 'non-ethnic Britons' living in England tend to identify as English more than as British - a fact which Gareth Young had to weedle out of them using Freedom Of Information powers (don't have the link to his post to hand).

David Rickard

gelosgrapos
30 September 2009 - 7:52pm

@britologywatch you are absolutely right that scratch the surface and it is Englishness rather than the more all inclusive and arguably nebulous Britishness that ethnic minorities identify with.

From personal experience that is certainly the case.

However part of the reason that one has to "weedle this out" in any research is because of the perceived strength of Englishness and whether real or not the degree of "exclusivity" that Englishness represents.

Indeed it is this exclusivity and social conditioning that has sustained Englishness and as you rightly highlight purposefully linked it so closely to Britishness.

It is also this delusion that drives the establishment who continuos to "sell" this idea and refuses to address the issue with any real reform.

My fear however is that having let the devolution genie out of the bottle it is the other nations led by Scotland that will set the agenda putting England on the back-foot.

Interestingly similar parallels can be drawn with Spain another nation based on the supremacy of one region in their case Castile and in language terms castilian, even though the background to the enforcement of this castilian concept has been less subtle than in the UK with the likes of the Franco dictatorship.

Nevertheless repeated democratic governments have failed or are reluctant to address the issue resulting in building fervent Basque, Catalan and to a lesser extent Galician nationalism. In their case it can only end positively with the creation of a federal Spain or negatively in the break up of what we now know as Spain the nature of the result depending on ones politics.

In the meantime as an issue it is hampering the economic growth potential of the country as a whole as the individual regions dig their heels especially if they hold the balance of power on a variety of issues whilst the national government cynically panders to them.

Carole E
30 September 2009 - 9:43pm

My Grandfather was naturalised in 1913. My grandmothers father never bothered, her own mother's parents also came from another country. My Mum & her siblings considered themselves Londoners, English & British in that order. Consider Prince Naseem, the boxer. He is "Yorkshire" first. The people of the post WWII wave of migration & their descendents who live in England are equally & uniquely English. Consider how often people allow themselves a "regional" identity, perhaps because this particular national identity has been suppressed!

Zen9
29 September 2009 - 11:00pm

An excellent piece to read.

But the roots of this ambiguity over Britain and England are very old, since Norman conquors sought to use various myths and legends of the Celts to justify their rule over England...and to justify their attempt to expand it over the rest of Britain.

Thus the 'invention' of Great Britain has always sought to link itself to such myths and legends, seeking legitimacy while avoiding the reality of whome they rule. Driven by its usefulness to the ruling class in their quest to get what they want without paying the price of living within the constraints of English custom and practice.

For England to re-emerge and move forward in a postive way, it must reconnect with its own past, its own orrigins and the ruling class accept they must live within this and as a part of this people, this tribe.

Its clear the ruling class are not willing to make this bargin, and must be forced to it. That or see the need by English people for leadership fall to some very unpalatable elements.

jlhutchings
30 September 2009 - 12:22pm

"For England to re-emerge and move forward-----and the ruling class accept they must live within this and as a part of this people, this tribe. "

spot on!

Its happening slowly but it IS happening.

Zen9
30 September 2009 - 9:56pm

For this to work we need a narrative of our history.

but NOT a history of England, rather a history of the English. None of this mucking around with Roman Britain, obscuring and confusing the issue.

johnevans7
29 September 2009 - 11:57pm

I like to think of myself as Human, European and British. I belong to a confederation of tribes, but I have never met a ' Great Briton' or an UKian, ever!  Most computerised forms have me as a citizen of the UK. Although when asked I am, like God, an Englishman. Yet unlike David Rickard I feel no identity crisis.  Recently here in the North West of England we slapped down the idea of a regional assembly (talking shop of nobodies and has been’s, very much like the European Parliament). That a country as old as Scotland (which even the Romans thought sensible to 'wall off') should want its independence is scarcely surprising. What would be surprising, would be to see Scotland scrapping the English language and returning to Gaelic.

 

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30 September 2009 - 12:34am

I think there is something called 'Britishness' that all the British peoples share and have helped evolve, but the English have never really allowed any debate about it since they take it as a foregone conclusion that Britishness = Englishness.

However, they do have a point.

If we go back to the mid-eighteenth century, shortly after the Anglo-Scottish union of 1707, and shortly before the loss of the thirteen colonies in America, we find Scots and Americans like Benjamin Franklin proudly referring to themselves as either 'freeborn Englishmen' or asserting 'the rights of Englishmen' or self-identification with 'English liberty'. By which they meant, not an ethnic consciousness or linguistic label, but a juridical-political one.

This was, a belief in and defence of legal principles like the right to a jury trial, the principle of equality before the law, and the rule of law; government by consent (contractarian theory of John Locke), writ of habeus corpus; the right of free speech, free association, free assembly; limitations on the power of government; right of resistance; right of life, liberty and property.

Egalitarian values embodied in sayings like 'sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander'; or 'a cat may look at a king'; or 'speak without fear or favour'.

These were the essence of what it was to be counted as 'English' despite the fact that the nexus of this consciousness was the British Wars of the Three Kingdoms (what used to be called the English Civil Wars, until the English began to realise the Scots started it by their principled opposition to Archbishop Laud by the signing of a national petition, the National Covenant, 1638, and the Irish took the brunt of it, by the slaughter inflicted by Cromwell and the Apprentice Boys defence of London Derry).

Toque
30 September 2009 - 12:37pm

"Gareth Young had to weedle out of them using Freedom Of Information powers (don't have the link to his post to hand)."

The full results that I made them to publish on their website I covered here.

The Ministry of Justice like to tell us, authoritively, that there is no support for an English Parliament, but they've never actually done any research into that.

Insofar as constitutional reform is concerned The Ministry of Justice is little more than a government propaganda machine.

Hendre
30 September 2009 - 12:50pm

“native British people, including the English, have been increasingly identifying with the traditional four / five British nations ...”

I’ve seen a lot of variations on this theme but it tends to ignore the fact that the Welsh undertook a nation-building exercise in the late Victorian/Edwardian period, which Kenneth O. Morgan has dubbed the ‘rebirth of a nation’. That period saw the birth of institutional Wales, and arguably, constitutional Wales, following the disestablishment of the Church of England in Wales.

Wouldn’t it be more accurate to say that what we have seen over the 20th century is the process of universal suffrage/full participative democracy allowing Welsh and Scottish cultural identity to find greater political expression? Though in the case of Wales, somewhat cautiously.

Jim
30 September 2009 - 4:42pm

I think this article expresses very well sentiments that I have felt for some time, but have not quite managed to articulate. The key to constitutional renewal is to ignore the "UK" and start afresh. I don't altogether agree that the British establishment is in trauma following devolution. The real trauma is yet to come, with full Scottish independence. That will really expose the "British" project for the hollow shell that it is.

I was briefly involved a few years ago in a think-tank excercise to redefine Britishness. A series of seminars was completely unable to define what it was or what it stood for. The only value they could come up with was "tolerance". I might add "apathy", with the benefit of hindsight.

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30 September 2009 - 5:17pm

No offence Cornish Democrat, but independence from France is a highly unlikely outcome for Brittany. Not that I, as a believer in the independence of all nations from non-nation states, would oppose such a move. Frankly (no French pun intended), I think Cornwall has more chance of full independence from the UK!

The Cornish Democrat
1 October 2009 - 6:14pm

Yes France THE centralised Jacobin state that forces national identity and republican state into the same box, from which emerges the French Republic une et indivisible. Not likely to let Brittany, Corsica, Alsace or its bits of the Basque Country or Catalonia go without a struggle.  But these solid seemingly indestructible states can often provide the biggest surprises.   However yes a sovereign Cornwall within a federal Europe is also tempting.    The Cornish Democrat

Alex Buchan
1 October 2009 - 1:29pm

I would like to add to the analysis presented in the article by discussing its obverse 'Britain and Scotland: A Case of Split Identity'. The following may seem abstruce but I feel it is important to have as full a picture as possible in order to identify what we are dealing with. 

Scotland didn't so much have 'the institutional trappings' of a distinct nation as a lack, on the ground, until the modern era, of British-wide institutions, ditto for Ireland. This was the unique feature of the UK state.

It was a feature built in from the beginning and always demanded a certain amount of creative ambiguity/dissembling on the part of politicians. The situation may have been changed by devolution, but there is nothing new in how the political class is behaving. Because it has been going on for so long it is part of the DNA of the British system, which is why it will not be eradicated until that system is itself replaced.

The position in Scotland was that everything was duplicated and, like the English, Scots saw their separate state institutions as Scottish and British at the same time. Even the monarchy and the army, two of the very few British-wide institutions, stressed their separate Scottish lineages.

The monarchy, self consciously, created a distinct Scottish identity for itself, including having duplicate orders of chivalry, to replicate the 'Order of the Garter' The army encouraged Scots to identity with the kilt and the bagpipes.

The fact that the only truly British-wide institution: Parliament [and its political parties], was located in England, meant that, regardless of the efforts of the monarchy and army, there was always a limit to the extent that Scots could complete their blurring of Scottish and British identities.

This situation was made more complex with the arrival of a new Britishness in the early 20th cent. in the form of the Labour movement, the welfare state [including the NHS], the broadcast media and nationalised industries. All of these broke up the earlier constitutional status quo by being organised on a British-wide basis. Their decline, especially during the Thatcher period, has lead to a reemergence of the ascendance of earlier constitutional status quo.

What is left of these British-wide institutions is therefore under pressure to duplicate so as to be acceptable in Scotland. The BBC has tried to withstand pressure for a separate Scottish 6 o'clock news, but, nevertheless, tries to portray itself as having a separate Scottish corporate identity in how it presents both BBC 0ne and Two.

This is only a stab at an attempt to outline the differences in how things look from different sides of the border. Devolution was meant to placate the Scottish desire for duplicate Scottish institutions at all levels. Scots are unlikely to move quickly towards independence because what they want more than anything is for their right to duplicate institutions within the union to be enshrined.

This is a dynamic the UK state, in its many guises, has been trying to grapple with since its inception. The political class therefore is perplexed when the English public takes exception, because it sees itself as doing all of this in order to secure Scotland for England/Britain [note Tony Blair's comment on 'Barnett' being a small price to pay].           

 

 

 

 

 

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2 October 2009 - 11:37am

Signs of the times.

We can still keep the letters UK. They would be the anagram of United = "Untied".

A Greek of my acquaintance once said "We know all about Empire. We had one once and have yet to recover from losing it."

The Gibbon's "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" model still holds good. The English established the British Empire, by annexing Scotland, Wales and Ireland. The rest is history. At present the English are at the "bread and circuses" stage of disintegration of Empire. As long as they have football on Saturday night, takeaway pizza and a six-pack, the English will remain quiet. Once the bread and circuses era passes we can expect the next stage will be the appearance of the barbarians in Parliament.

Could we also expect to eventually end up with an Italian style democracy, which is one of the outcomes of the Fall of Imperial Rome.

Anonymous
8 January 2010 - 9:36pm

I'm fron North East England, and would rather become part of Scotland. The UK won't be united for ever. It's called progression. 

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