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UK's Democracy and the cry of the left...
It is amusing to see the radical leftists crying bloody murder with respect to Blair's re-election. As a citizen of a country whose most salient characteristic is the utter uselessness of institutions I can tell that everyone around here should be extremely grateful for being fortunate enough to live in this country. Long live Blair!!
Submitted on Tue, 2005-05-10 12:02
Re: UK's Democracy and the cry of the left...
The position of Prime Minister isn't an elected one. It's a position appointed by the monarch. Blair was elected to Parliament: in a Labour safe-seat. Nothing more.
Plus, why don't you provide quotes, not engage in rumour mongering?
Re: UK's Democracy and the cry of the left...
Mr Boyd,
One can perhaps speculate as to the preferability of the frying pan over the fire.
Yet it is not 'radical' to seek to avoid both - it is simply human survival instinct.
The uselessness of our insitutions are inversely proportional to our collective attempts to challenge them. The amusing disgust at Blair of which you speak is the mark of human beings, who will always look for the better deal, however many worse deals there are to be had. And it may be prudent to remember there wouldnt be such a things as 'a vote' if every citizen in every nation had always been frozen by their graditude for whatever crumbs they were thrown from their respective dictators.
Re: UK's Democracy and the cry of the left...
Aleksander Boyd,
Congratulations on the re-election victory of Mr. Blair.
Cries of a corrupt electoral system are just sour grapes. If Mr. Blair had lost, these same people would have been fawning over the system.
Re: UK's Democracy and the cry of the left...
Ttrryosborn,
["Congratulations on the re-election victory of Mr. Blair.
Cries of a corrupt electoral system are just sour grapes. If Mr. Blair had lost, these same people would have been fawning over the system".]
Never have I read such a nonsensical and self contradictory statement than the one above. Ttrryosborn professes to believe in democracy yet dismisses the demands of tens of millions of British citizens for a fairer electoral system. When only a little over one in five of the electorate and a little over one in three of those that voted, supported New Labour and Tony Blair, this ghoulish right wing American takes it upon himself to dishonour the views and desires of millions of Brits by accusing them of expressing 'sour grapes'. Ttrry, hide your head in shame! Your no a democrat but a blatantly obvious hypocrit.
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Re: UK's Democracy and the cry of the left...
brolly3,
You speak for tens of millions of Britons? I am truly impressed.
Re: UK's Democracy and the cry of the left...
perhaps brolly speaks for millions, or perhaps the polls do, or perhaps they are not mutually exclusive :)
"It's bad enough that we saw our[Labour's] majority slashed by almost 100 seats, lost scores of dedicated MPs and saw our share of the popular vote plummet to a pitiful 35%."
"May 5 will go down in history as the day when the myth of the great Blairite coalition was finally exposed. Tony was able to secure the support of 2 million fewer voters than Neil Kinnock did in 1992, the election that supposedly represents the crucible upon which New Labour was formed."
Glenda Jackson MP
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,9115,1482033,00.html
Re: UK's Democracy and the cry of the left...
Ttrryosborn,
["You speak for tens of millions of Britons? I am truly impressed".]
Ttrry, do you actually think about what you say. It doesn't look like it.
I quoted official figures about voting percentages at the election. These clearly show to anyone that has a brain that they relate to the tens of millions that voted as well as the millions that didn't. The figures show how unsatisfactroy the outcome is in terms of democratic representation of the majority. The opinion polls also show a big majority in favour of proportioanl representation.
What did you do in response to the facts - come up with a trite and ridiculous attempt at sarcasm. This shows you for what you are - an incompetant debater and an ignoramus too boot.
Have a nice day.
Message was edited by: brolly3
Re: UK's Democracy and the cry of the left...
brolly3,
Tsk, Tsk Tsk, I'm truly hurt.
You have determined from voting figures that the outcome was unsatisfactory-- to the winners or the losers?
The outcome was not a democratic representation of the majority-- doesn't the parliamentary system allow for minority parties to be represented?
Election change?
Most people vote party affiliatiion. That how "safe seats" are determined. They vote to keep things the same.
That is what you're up against.
We have our own system of elections which narrows the field and produces a working majority at the end. It works for us.
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